PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT A HALF ASS / BAD REVIEW

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I'm not sure if this was directed at me or not, as I was just offering a suggestion. Personally, I could care less, but every time a review gets written on this site, it seems a horde of people chime in with their own personal thoughts of what the review should have been like, instead of writing their own review. I think too many people spend their time worrying over a score than the actual contents of the review, which is why I thought dropping the score might help.

Whatever the staff decide to do is perfectly fine by them, but saying you'd like to shove peoples' heads into an oven makes you look moronic yourself... if not a bit psychotic.

Just sayin'.

author=Liberty
We have staff who check the reviews. Most of the time as long as they're reasonably well-written and not flame-war worthy, they'll pass. Why? Because people have their own opinions of games and you can't please everyone when you write a review. It's usually about how you felt the game stacked up and that's going to change for each person based on their own experiences in gaming.

This is how you get people who gush over the most simplistic and annoyingly stupid games, and others who are very critical of the things they play. It's part and parcel of being a site like RMN that caters towards players and developers.

My advice? Get over it.

That said, there was some talk a while back about looking into making a difference between critiques and reviews. We might look into it again.

If you have any issues with a review that someone has written, drop a line to one of the staff. Don't be stupid about it though, okay? Saying that such and such review is bad because it's critical of your slow-ass walk and text speed will make you come off looking like a complete moron and possibly make the staffers want to shove your head in an oven.

And I'd be down to help them with that. Just sayin'.
Yellow Magic
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If I reviewed this topic I'd be reviewing a review of reviews of reviews.
kentona
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Liberty
~RTP Princess~
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author=amerkevicius
I'm not sure if this was directed at me or not, as I was just offering a suggestion. Personally, I could care less, but every time a review gets written on this site, it seems a horde of people chime in with their own personal thoughts of what the review should have been like, instead of writing their own review. I think too many people spend their time worrying over a score than the actual contents of the review, which is why I thought dropping the score might help.

Whatever the staff decide to do is perfectly fine by them, but saying you'd like to shove peoples' heads into an oven makes you look moronic yourself... if not a bit psychotic.

Just sayin'.



Sweetie, that wasn't aimed at you, it was just in general to the whole "Raaaugh! These reviews suckage! Waaaah!". Your taking it personally makes you look a bit silly, especially something that was most obviously a joke.

Just sayin'. ^.~
author=amerkevicius
I could care less


couldnt

thats my contribution for this topic
My bad, I did take it personally, as I thought it was aimed at me. So my apologies.
It is completely possible to respect a person while completely despising that person's work, and that's a goal worth aspiring to in all aspects of social life. Just give your reasons, understand what the problems are, and be polite while explaining your point of view, and you'll write a good review.

Besides, we're all friends here, right?
Sauce
Oh bother.
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author=sixe
author=amerkevicius
I could care less
couldnt

thats my contribution for this topic

It actually works both ways.

"I couldn't care less." Means your level of care can't go any lower.

"I could care less." Means it's insignificant enough that you could give it less thought than you're currently giving it.

And that's my contribution.

But seriously. A dev should not have to be grateful to receive a review of any kind. Especially if the review is terribly written (positive or negative).
author=Sauce
But seriously. A dev should not have to be grateful to receive a review of any kind. Especially if the review is terribly written (positive or negative).

...what? Yes they should. It means someone took the time out of their day to play your game and give you feedback. Positive or negative, poorly or well written, that's pretty darn flattering. :\
To an extent I agree, but one has to wonder how useful a poorly written review that gives a game a low score is, especially since the score can decide whether or not a game gets passed over all by itself, as chana pointed out.

I mean, with AAA commercial games, you're guaranteed to get dozens of reviews, even for obscure games, so it's easy for prospective players to get an idea of what a game's strengths and weaknesses are, and it's easy to spot the accurate reviews from the inaccurate ones. Obviously, that is not the case with our little hobby.

Granted, there are checks in place to prevent truly awful or vindictive reviews from getting through.
Liberty
~RTP Princess~
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Poorly written reviews don't get past as often as you'd think. Maybe one or two slip past, but the amount that don't is a lot. As it stands, the average quality of reviews on this site is higher than that on most other sites.

In other words, for each bad review that gets through, there's many more that are caught and returned to be refined.
Craze
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Lucidstillness
Granted, there are checks in place to prevent truly awful or vindictive reviews from getting through.


even though obviously they're all in .txt form on my flash drive here
Max McGee
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When I see a review that is crappy nowadays, I usually comment on its crappiness, as long as it's not for one of my games. But I mean if a reviewer was clearly just "phoning it in" it's probably not a bad idea to call them on it. I don't mean "their opinion of this game differs from my own" type cases. I mean "this is poorly written, badly structured, uninformative, and the text doesn't agree with the score at all" type cases.

Reviews are good, though, I don't want to discourage them. But both reviews and articles I've seen that have been approved recently I thought never should have gotten past RMN's quality controls; they were proportionately worse than games RMN has rejected in the past.
Sated
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author=sbester
author=Fallen-Griever
author=Avee
author=Clyve
The rule is this: If someone dislikes something about your game, they are doing a half assed review and their opinion doesn't count.
That was sarcastic.
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A review fails when it doesn't serve at least one of its two possible purposes:

1) Let potential players know what to expect from playing the game.
2) Give the developer useful suggestions about what could be better about the game.
2) isn't anywhere near as important as 1). Reviews are for players first and foremost.
If it were a game you could purchase, yes. For a free game that eats up like next to no bandwidth and was made by an amateur, people should just suck it up and download what they think looks interesting. In other words, I would have to disagree.

Time is a more important resource than money. The latter you can obtain more of, the former you cannot.
jomarcenter
to judges: if you play my game you will think about it twice playing it again!!!
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author=Jparker1984
I was just reading a few reviews were the person reviewing the game was a complete jack ass and just really half assing it. Which, is annoying and dumb. However, who on here really takes those people seriously?

Also, you got those people that write a seaming nice review, yet highly inaccurate. Its like they didn't really play the game, but wanted to say "Hey look at me, I wrote a review."

Either way, that brings me to my point of posting this. I hate how when people get one and or both of those types of reviews and they get all mean, nasty and defensive. I mean really, if you honestly felt that it was a crap review, why are you even wasting your time replying. If you think about it, by replying you are only getting down to their level and proving that your a cry baby.

EDIT: Now, let me clarify something. Replying with disagreement and being a cry baby about it are two different things.

i don't know why people is doing like this...
Despite
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Why is they doing like this???!!!
meh, i take reviews as constructive criticism. And besides, most gamers are assholes and are never happy, they nitpick worse then my wife.
It's better to take their review with a grain of salt or even go a step further and take what they are complaining about and try to learn from it and hopefully don't repeat the same mistake.

But yea, some seem to go out of their way just to be an asshole. There are better and nicer ways to criticize to get your point across, and if your nice about it they will usually listen to what you have to say a lot better then if your just being mean about it. But you also have to take in consideration it's easy to take things the wrong way online, as things could read as being mean but they didn't mean it to be like that.
Sam
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I think me and Asalieri need to start up our review podcast thing again but in video form this time. Reviews without the scores (and hopefully with more structure this time too).

I'm usually very British and polite, and Eric's usually very American and blunt. We kind of even out when we're discussing a game.
Games in general should not be reviewed using scores, they should use comparisons with other games instead.
Chances are that even if a game get's awful reviews it will still be fun to play for someone.
That and every reviewer is indirectly biased by their preferences.
Explaining why you liked or didn't like a game and all it's elements (music, story, grapics, etc) should be enough for a review.
author=iddalai
Games in general should not be reviewed using scores, they should use comparisons with other games instead.
Chances are that even if a game get's awful reviews it will still be fun to play for someone.
That and every reviewer is indirectly biased by their preferences.
Explaining why you liked or didn't like a game and all it's elements (music, story, grapics, etc) should be enough for a review.


...You copied my username idea. 0.0
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