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Discouragement

Well, to be perfectly honest, I'm feeling pretty discouraged about this project. I know that's a bit of a personal disclosure, and that this is a gamedev blog and not a live journal but...I'm not sure what's more essential to amateur game dev than motivation.

I didn't think this project was explosively super-perfect or beyond reproach or anything, but I did release it with the total certainty (in my mind) that I had created something that A) was very polished and B) most importantly fun to play. Actually, I thought it was not just fun to play but addictive. I usually don't release something until I think it's just about done. Maybe if I released things I thought were sort of rough, half-finished crap then people's "feedback" would be easier to take (though I kind of doubt it) but as it is I don't release things until I think they're "pretty much good and done".

So many people seem to feel otherwise, though, about this one (I still haven't read the any of the comments from the nasty review, and I don't plan to; stress triggered medical condition and all; I don't seem to notice anywhere near as many people agreeing with Kumada's review) that the amount of work I'd have to do to make the game--which I already thought was really fun--fun for more people seems depressingly insurmountable. I was looking forward to working on the rest of the game's content and to promoting the game on other sites, but now that "make other people think the game is fun somehow" is added to that list, it just seems like a Sisyphean task, rather than merely a Herculean one.

This isn't canceled or anything, I hope to keep plugging away at it. But it just seems like an obligation now, whereas before it was joyous. Whenever I think about working on this I just feel kind of sad.

Maybe we could discuss. How do you guys keep working on games when the joy goes out of it? (I think for a lot of people, myself included in the past, the answer is far too often "I don't".)

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Versalia
I was looking forward to some gam mak
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author=Max McGee
I really feel that this is an acceptable, unbiased assessment of the situation. I certainly went as far as I could to make Versalia's opinion sound appealing, trying hard not to make it sound like a straw man argument. I think these are my final comments, explaining my understanding of the situation.

Other people did this too and you dismissed the comments as entirely wrong without needing to attempt to explain why. Don't act so fair and unbiased when you are clearly on your own side and nobody else's. I like how you entirely ignored emmych's very eloquent and thoughtful post about analyzing yourself and your projects in favor of arguing about arguing.

By the way, that's not at all how I feel, merely your interpretation of the situation.

I appreciate that but I really think that's not the essence of what I said at all.
I appreciate that but I really think that's not the essence of what I said at all.
I appreciate that but I really think that's not the essence of what I said at all.
Max McGee
My name is Legion: for we are many.
8099
Ooh, look, another page, how about that!

Quoting things three times definitely makes them more valid and true. : )
Deckiller
Mad bank for RMN server bills yo
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Alright, I was fine with leaving this debate ongoing on the basis of it remaining civil and centered on the accusations toward the community. It's remained quite civil, but most of the comments have been more of a one-on-one nature. Max, your comments about the hive-mind and so forth are suited for a topic on User Feedback and really need to be discussed. I take any criticism of RMN seriously unless it's a clear troll. Everything else seems to be about personal disagreements, and such things should be discussed in PM if there is nothing more to add to the discussion. After all, we're at a point where both sides have clearly established their viewpoints here in public forum.
Versalia
I was looking forward to some gam mak
1165
author=Max McGee
Quoting things three times definitely makes them more valid and true. : )


Quoting you against yourself is actually kind of like rubbing a dog's nose in it more than trying to reinforce my own point.

author=Deckiller
After all, we're at a point where both sides have clearly established their viewpoints here in public forum.


I quite agree. Cheers dahlings
Jude
User Title
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To be fair, Max wasn't initially insulting the entire community--just anybody who liked my game. Which is interesting because I've never taken potshots at his games, just his character.
Max McGee
My name is Legion: for we are many.
8099
Jude to be absolutely clear I have absolutely no problem with you or your game or with anyone for liking it.

(What I was saying and ALL I was saying is that you are unqualified to tell me to "get over" having everything I've made constantly, savagely attacked from all sides when nothing remotely like that has ever happened to you and you have no real idea how you'd really react if it did. Also I don't think that "nobody cares if you're sad" is a nice thing to say, or a nice attitude to have. Above and beyond being not nice, I would call such an attitude completely destructive to this community.)
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