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Should be a period after 'us'.
chana
(Socrates would certainly not contadict me!)
1914
author=kumada
Should be a period after 'us'.

I don't think so.
Caz
3017
If I were being picky I'd use a semicolon, but its use is arguably necessary. I think a comma works just fine.

I think your mapping is okay but it could use some detail: more shelving, paper, paintings, rugs, etc.. You know, things that go in rooms normally.
author=Caz
If I were being picky I'd use a semicolon, but its use is arguably necessary. I think a comma works just fine.

I think your mapping is okay but it could use some detail: more shelving, paper, paintings, rugs, etc.. You know, things that go in rooms normally.


Alright, if I put up a new version I'll be sure to include those, thank you for the tip.
At first glance, the comma appears to make sense here. After all, a native speaker would only pause briefly between the two phrases in the textbox if he was reading them out loud. Brief pause usually = comma.

In this case, though, it's a little different. You have two declarative sentences smooshed together. Each one is a complete statement. You don't use a comma to separate complete statements.

To illustrate my point, take a look at this: "Each one is a complete statement, you don't use a comma to separate complete statements."

Does that comma still look right?

Here are some variations on this sentence where it would be grammatically appropriate to have a comma:

-Using a comma to set off introductory elements: "While females don't hate us, bitches like you do!!!"

-Using a comma and a conjunction: "Females don't hate us, but bitches like you do!!!"

-Using a comma parenthetically: "Females, who typically do not hate us, are different from bitches like you who do!!!"

EDIT: I don't think any of this is an important thing to focus on if you feel like working some more on the game, but I do want to make sure I understand period use in sentences. If there's something that I missed, or if I'm just completely wrong, please let me know.
author=kumada


Get a load of this guy.

, is better than ; goddamnit
If it makes you mad, don't read it?

If I see something that looks wrong to me, I'd rather say something about it. That way either it gets fixed or I learn that I was wrong about it.

I've never seen anyone blow up this much about a comma before.
Well, now you have. Semicolons are obtrusive and a hassle and difficult to use, so why use them? Why not stick to the basics? In my opinion, if you pepper your writings with semicolons, it just makes you look arrogant, like you're trying to prove something. Grammatically correct, or not.
Depends on the audience, really. I don't think I've ever run into anyone who was like "ugh, he uses semi-colons? What a douche." That said, you're definitely right in that people shouldn't hesitate to throw the usual rules of grammar out the window if it'll help them reach an audience better.
Caz
3017
Wow, semicolons are that annoying? *shrug* I was just saying that I don't think a period is appropriate, but a comma lacks a little something. In this context, I am certain a semicolon can be used. I am also certain a comma has its rightful place where it currently is. Perhaps as a child I paid attention and learned how to use punctuation correctly. I didn't say I will think less of this sentence without its use, nor did I intend to enrage you with my suggestion. I apologise on behalf of semicolon-users worldwide.

On a more related note, his grammar and spelling are acceptable and, more importantly, understandable. Why is this still being argued over?
author=Caz
Wow, semicolons are that annoying? *shrug* I was just saying that I don't think a period is appropriate, but a comma lacks a little something. In this context, I am certain a semicolon can be used. I am also certain a comma has its rightful place where it currently is. Perhaps as a child I paid attention and learned how to use punctuation correctly. I didn't say I will think less of this sentence without its use, nor did I intend to enrage you with my suggestion. I apologise on behalf of semicolon-users worldwide.

On a more related note, his grammar and spelling are acceptable and, more importantly, understandable. Why is this still being argued over?


Trust me I have no idea. *Puts my head on my desk and sighs annoyed* XD
author=Caz
I am also certain a comma has its rightful place where it currently is. Perhaps as a child I paid attention and learned how to use punctuation correctly.


Can you explain it to me, then? I'm not looking for an argument, I just want to know in what way I'm doing it wrong so that I can fix it in my writing in the future.

I've googled it. I've checked a Webster's. I haven't found any source that shows a comma being used correctly at the end of a declarative sentence.

Help me out here?
chana
(Socrates would certainly not contadict me!)
1914
It's because the second part of the sentence is directly related to the first, actually would not make sense without the first, so they cannot be separated by a period, a comma is the right ponctuation.
Caz
3017
author=kumada
author=Caz
I am also certain a comma has its rightful place where it currently is. Perhaps as a child I paid attention and learned how to use punctuation correctly.
Can you explain it to me, then? I'm not looking for an argument, I just want to know in what way I'm doing it wrong so that I can fix it in my writing in the future.

I've googled it. I've checked a Webster's. I haven't found any source that shows a comma being used correctly at the end of a declarative sentence.

Help me out here?

Info on semicolons:

The Wiki is the most helpful link I can find. I pretty much use them in place of conjunctions. So in this case, you could say, "Females don't hate us, but/however/although bitches like you do!"

It sounds better without that conjunction though. A comma can be used instead like Chana explained, as semicolons (unfortunately) mostly go unused now. For the most part, a semicolon shows that the second clause directly relates to the first and it might look a bit too awkward (or there is too long of a pause) to have them stand by themselves. A good example on the Wiki is: "I told John that his shoe was untied; he looked."

You could separate these two clauses with a comma, but it's much tidier to use a semicolon. OH and you can use them to tidy up lists, too. If you've got something that is usually divided by commas but you want it to be in a list at the same time, separating them with semicolons looks a lot nicer. For example with place names: "I have been to: Wales, UK; Toronto, Canada; Glasgow, Scotland.." or with descriptions: "I saw: the postman, who complimented my shoes; the butcher, the man with no fingers; the milkman, the crazed lunatic.."

(Sorry for hijacking your picture, Mmarage. I do think this game has promise if you improve your mapping a bit, though! :P)

Me realising you actually meant commas:

EDIT: HERP, I just realised you were talking about commas. Oh well, this was also a helpful lesson. In comparison to the semi-colon, a comma is used in basic lists without descriptions and things. They're also used to separate adjectives: "the big, blue tree"

Nowadays, you will usually see a comma where a semicolon belongs due to people not liking the semicolon. :( Oh, and if you use a conjunction then there's no need for a semicolon. You may want to put in a comma to tell the reader when to breathe: "I went to the shops, but before I could find the dragon, the shopkeeper ate my arms."
author=Caz
author=kumada
author=Caz
I am also certain a comma has its rightful place where it currently is. Perhaps as a child I paid attention and learned how to use punctuation correctly.
Can you explain it to me, then? I'm not looking for an argument, I just want to know in what way I'm doing it wrong so that I can fix it in my writing in the future.

I've googled it. I've checked a Webster's. I haven't found any source that shows a comma being used correctly at the end of a declarative sentence.

Help me out here?
Info on semicolons:

The Wiki is the most helpful link I can find. I pretty much use them in place of conjunctions. So in this case, you could say, "Females don't hate us, but/however/although bitches like you do!"

It sounds better without that conjunction though. A comma can be used instead like Chana explained, as semicolons (unfortunately) mostly go unused now. For the most part, a semicolon shows that the second clause directly relates to the first and it might look a bit too awkward (or there is too long of a pause) to have them stand by themselves. A good example on the Wiki is: "I told John that his shoe was untied; he looked."

You could separate these two clauses with a comma, but it's much tidier to use a semicolon. OH and you can use them to tidy up lists, too. If you've got something that is usually divided by commas but you want it to be in a list at the same time, separating them with semicolons looks a lot nicer. For example with place names: "I have been to: Wales, UK; Toronto, Canada; Glasgow, Scotland.." or with descriptions: "I saw: the postman, who complimented my shoes; the butcher, the man with no fingers; the milkman, the crazed lunatic.."

(Sorry for hijacking your picture, Mmarage. I do think this game has promise if you improve your mapping a bit, though! :P)

Me realising you actually meant commas:

EDIT: HERP, I just realised you were talking about commas. Oh well, this was also a helpful lesson. In comparison to the semi-colon, a comma is used in basic lists without descriptions and things. They're also used to separate adjectives: "the big, blue tree"

Nowadays, you will usually see a comma where a semicolon belongs due to people not liking the semicolon. :( Oh, and if you use a conjunction then there's no need for a semicolon. You may want to put in a comma to tell the reader when to breathe: "I went to the shops, but before I could find the dragon, the shopkeeper ate my arms."


Thanks, and it's alright, I'm not even sure how this whole thing began in the first place XD and also I've been working on the game a bit, I found a glitch with the key items (The letters and keys) I've fixed that and I've been trying to add things to the rooms to make them look better.
Okay, thank you. That wiki does help.

So, basically, it depends on whether you treat the two parts of the thing in the textbox as related independent clauses or individual declarative sentences, and whether or not you hate the semicolon.

Ugh. English grammar.

Thank you again, Caz.
Caz
3017
I wouldn't say it's very important and no one's gonna tear your head off for deciding you don't want to risk using a semicolon, or if you feel more comfortable with a comma. Like I said, hardly anyone uses it anymore. It just looks a bit more impressive in writing if you're confident in using it. :]

The main rule is to remember to consider your reader's lung capacity and no one will complain about it (hopefully). And yes, I agree - English has the worst grammar in the world. ^^
If you ask me, I would agree with kumada and put a full stop/period after "us". Semi-colon works as well, but it's uncommon. A comma doesn't exactly work here for me, but really, it depends on what he said earlier.

Not that it's significant, but just saying.

Here's how it would look like:

"Females don't hate us.
Bitches like you do!!!"
author=eplipswich
If you ask me, I would agree with kumada and put a full stop/period after "us". Semi-colon works as well, but it's uncommon. A comma doesn't exactly work here for me, but really, it depends on what he said earlier.

Not that it's significant, but just saying.

Here's how it would look like:

"Females don't hate us.
Bitches like you do!!!"


I'm sorry, but hasn't this whole discussion over minor punctuation gone on too long? I mean I understand just pointing out what you believe is correct, but to keep a discussion on it for two days is a bit much, let's just get off the comma and move onto different problems, preferably the mapping, I made revisions to the stuff my brother had written so I don't think there's anymore problems there, maybe some punctuation errors, but other than that it's alright, the spelling should be correct and any errors in meaning (Such as a part and apart) should be fixed, I'm just worried about any kinds of glitches that are there (Such as bosses that have been defeated reappear or items that don't work or have the wrong heading (Such as weed healing 1000 when really it only heals 250.) And the mapping.
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