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Music: How much is too much?
author=Xenomic
EDIT #2 - Umm....I am confused as to what's going on with Faith now, from those last 2 screenshots. What is going on here!? @_@;
I should have made this more clear, sorry about that.
You might have already figured this out, but if not...
The first screenshot shows the events that need Faith is for the Transient People (Jun. A).mp3
The second screenshot shows the events for Faith is for the Transient People (Sound Sepher).mp3
Thing is, both mp3s are for the SAME song
I determined this by searching for it, and finding it on YouTube, where in the description for the video it says:
Album: Youyou Kengeki Musou Original Sound Tracks
Arrangement: Jun.A
Circle: Sound Sepher
I also listened to both the YouTube video and the mp3 to confirm that the video was the same song as the mp3.
CONCLUSION: The events that need either Faith is for the Transient People (Jun. A).mp3 or Faith is for the Transient People (Sound Sepher).mp3 are playing the SAME SONG.
Music: How much is too much?
After downloading & adding to the Music folder the mp3s in the following packs:
Beta5+ Music
Expansion Music
Updated Music (for Update Patch 1.100)
Vanilla Music
RMTool lists these as missing:
Music file "Faith is for the Transient People (Sound Sepher)"
Music file "Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion (Orchestral)"
Music file "Strawberry Crisis!! <gibberish>"
Music file "Dark Side of Fate (dBu)"
Music file "Native Faith (dBu)"
Music file "Septette for the Dead Princess (UI-70)"
Music file "Selection (mochiton)"
Music file "Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (dBu)"
Music file "Necro-Fantasy (Neutral)"
Music file "Touhou Gensoumaroku <gibberish> Devil of Decline - Boss 4 - OUT"
Music file "Legendary Illusion ~ Infinite Being (Gensoumaroku)"
Music file "The Hall of Dreams' Great Mausoleum (Armageddon Records)"
Music file "<gibberish> Phantasia of Fantasy (Rin Satsuki's Theme #2)"
Music file "Touhou Pocket Wars 2nd Ibaraki Kasen 's Theme"
Music file "Legend of the Great Gods (dBu)"
Music file "Old Yuanxian (dBu)"
Music file "The Doll Maker of Bucuresti (FMWS)"
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However 2 of them are not missing, they just aren't being recognized because of their Japanese characters:
Strawberry Crisis!! (マドレーヌ).mp3
Touhou Gensoumaroku 東方 東方幻想魔録 Devil of Decline - Boss 4 - OUT.mp3
The 3rd one that you mentioned, 花鳥風月は彷徨い歩く～Phantasia of Fantasy (Rin Satsuki's Theme #2).mp3 is missing, but I found it in an older version of Touhou Fantasy, the Beta 4 version which I still had.
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These 3 mp3s with the Japanese characters are used on the following maps and events (according to RMTool)
Strawberry Crisis!! (マドレーヌ).mp3 used in 3 places:
Common Event Database: Entry 1410
Event: Beta5 Music Room at (10,20) page 1
Event: Party Switch Area at (28,13) page 2
Touhou Gensoumaroku 東方 東方幻想魔録 Devil of Decline - Boss 4 - OUT.mp3 used in 3 places:
Event: Beta4 Music Room at (4,16) page 1
Event: Insect Forest 10 at (9,1) page 1
Event: Insect Forest 10 at (9,1) page 1
(This means it was used twice during the same page of the same event on the same map)
花鳥風月は彷徨い歩く～Phantasia of Fantasy (Rin Satsuki's Theme #2).mp3 used in 1 place:
Event: Beta8 Music Room at (2,12) page 1
So, if you rename these 3, you'll have to edit those events and database entries to find & play the renamed mp3s.
*****************************************************************************
Looking through the the list of missing mp3s, it seems that some of them are included but with changed names:
For example:
Faith is for the Transient People (Sound Sepher).mp3 == Faith is for the Transient People (Jun. A).mp3
But you can't just rename this mp3 because both names are used in-game:
Of course, you can just copy the mp3, then rename one so you'll have two mp3s with
different names, but since they both have the same song, that's just wasting space and making the game even larger then it needs to be.
There's a few others like this, here's the rest:
Missing Mp3 ==
Included Duplicate with Different Name
Dark Side of Fate (dBu).mp3 ==
Dark Side of Fate.mp3
Faith is for the Transient People (Sound Sepher).mp3 ==
Faith is for the Transient People (Jun. A)
Native Faith (dBu).mp3 ==
Native Faith.mp3
Septette for the Dead Princess (UI-70).mp3 ==
Septette for a Dead Princess 2.mp3
*****************************************************************************
These 2 mp3s can just be renamed as only the correct name is used in the game
Correct Name ==
Incorrect Name
Legend of the Great Gods (dBu).mp3 ==
08- 大神大神話伝.mp3
Old Yuanxian (dBu).mp3 ==
07- 古き妖仙 ～ Master and Servant.mp3
*****************************************************************************
Which means these are the ones that actually are missing, though they may have been included with older versions of Touhou Fantasy:
Legendary Illusion ~ Infinite Being (Gensoumaroku).mp3
Necro-Fantasy (Neutral).mp3
Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (dBu).mp3
Selection (mochiton).mp3
Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion (Orchestral).mp3
The Doll Maker of Bucuresti (FMWS).mp3
The Hall of Dreams' Great Mausoleum (Armageddon Records).mp3
Touhou Pocket Wars 2nd Ibaraki Kasen 's Theme.mp3
花鳥風月は彷徨い歩く～Phantasia of Fantasy (Rin Satsuki's Theme #2).mp3
If you need RMTool, I have the latest version stored in my RMN locker:
http://rpgmaker.net/users/SegNin/locker/RMTool_Pack.zip
If you decide to use RMTool, don't use the Purge function. It's supposed to delete all the unused files, but RMTool is somewhat buggy, so it'll probably delete a few files that are needed.
Btw, after adding all the mp3s (including the missing ones I found either in my old Beta4 copy or on YouTube) my copy of the game comes to 1.4 GB rared.
And I even removed the thumbs.db and RTP files (since I already have the RTP) to shrink it down a bit.
Beta5+ Music
Expansion Music
Updated Music (for Update Patch 1.100)
Vanilla Music
RMTool lists these as missing:
Music file "Faith is for the Transient People (Sound Sepher)"
Music file "Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion (Orchestral)"
Music file "Strawberry Crisis!! <gibberish>"
Music file "Dark Side of Fate (dBu)"
Music file "Native Faith (dBu)"
Music file "Septette for the Dead Princess (UI-70)"
Music file "Selection (mochiton)"
Music file "Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (dBu)"
Music file "Necro-Fantasy (Neutral)"
Music file "Touhou Gensoumaroku <gibberish> Devil of Decline - Boss 4 - OUT"
Music file "Legendary Illusion ~ Infinite Being (Gensoumaroku)"
Music file "The Hall of Dreams' Great Mausoleum (Armageddon Records)"
Music file "<gibberish> Phantasia of Fantasy (Rin Satsuki's Theme #2)"
Music file "Touhou Pocket Wars 2nd Ibaraki Kasen 's Theme"
Music file "Legend of the Great Gods (dBu)"
Music file "Old Yuanxian (dBu)"
Music file "The Doll Maker of Bucuresti (FMWS)"
*****************************************************************************
However 2 of them are not missing, they just aren't being recognized because of their Japanese characters:
Strawberry Crisis!! (マドレーヌ).mp3
Touhou Gensoumaroku 東方 東方幻想魔録 Devil of Decline - Boss 4 - OUT.mp3
The 3rd one that you mentioned, 花鳥風月は彷徨い歩く～Phantasia of Fantasy (Rin Satsuki's Theme #2).mp3 is missing, but I found it in an older version of Touhou Fantasy, the Beta 4 version which I still had.
*****************************************************************************
These 3 mp3s with the Japanese characters are used on the following maps and events (according to RMTool)
Strawberry Crisis!! (マドレーヌ).mp3 used in 3 places:
Common Event Database: Entry 1410
Event: Beta5 Music Room at (10,20) page 1
Event: Party Switch Area at (28,13) page 2
Touhou Gensoumaroku 東方 東方幻想魔録 Devil of Decline - Boss 4 - OUT.mp3 used in 3 places:
Event: Beta4 Music Room at (4,16) page 1
Event: Insect Forest 10 at (9,1) page 1
Event: Insect Forest 10 at (9,1) page 1
(This means it was used twice during the same page of the same event on the same map)
花鳥風月は彷徨い歩く～Phantasia of Fantasy (Rin Satsuki's Theme #2).mp3 used in 1 place:
Event: Beta8 Music Room at (2,12) page 1
So, if you rename these 3, you'll have to edit those events and database entries to find & play the renamed mp3s.
*****************************************************************************
Looking through the the list of missing mp3s, it seems that some of them are included but with changed names:
For example:
Faith is for the Transient People (Sound Sepher).mp3 == Faith is for the Transient People (Jun. A).mp3
But you can't just rename this mp3 because both names are used in-game:
Of course, you can just copy the mp3, then rename one so you'll have two mp3s with
different names, but since they both have the same song, that's just wasting space and making the game even larger then it needs to be.
There's a few others like this, here's the rest:
Missing Mp3 ==
Included Duplicate with Different Name
Dark Side of Fate (dBu).mp3 ==
Dark Side of Fate.mp3
Faith is for the Transient People (Sound Sepher).mp3 ==
Faith is for the Transient People (Jun. A)
Native Faith (dBu).mp3 ==
Native Faith.mp3
Septette for the Dead Princess (UI-70).mp3 ==
Septette for a Dead Princess 2.mp3
*****************************************************************************
These 2 mp3s can just be renamed as only the correct name is used in the game
Correct Name ==
Incorrect Name
Legend of the Great Gods (dBu).mp3 ==
08- 大神大神話伝.mp3
Old Yuanxian (dBu).mp3 ==
07- 古き妖仙 ～ Master and Servant.mp3
*****************************************************************************
Which means these are the ones that actually are missing, though they may have been included with older versions of Touhou Fantasy:
Legendary Illusion ~ Infinite Being (Gensoumaroku).mp3
Necro-Fantasy (Neutral).mp3
Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (dBu).mp3
Selection (mochiton).mp3
Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion (Orchestral).mp3
The Doll Maker of Bucuresti (FMWS).mp3
The Hall of Dreams' Great Mausoleum (Armageddon Records).mp3
Touhou Pocket Wars 2nd Ibaraki Kasen 's Theme.mp3
花鳥風月は彷徨い歩く～Phantasia of Fantasy (Rin Satsuki's Theme #2).mp3
If you need RMTool, I have the latest version stored in my RMN locker:
http://rpgmaker.net/users/SegNin/locker/RMTool_Pack.zip
If you decide to use RMTool, don't use the Purge function. It's supposed to delete all the unused files, but RMTool is somewhat buggy, so it'll probably delete a few files that are needed.
Btw, after adding all the mp3s (including the missing ones I found either in my old Beta4 copy or on YouTube) my copy of the game comes to 1.4 GB rared.
And I even removed the thumbs.db and RTP files (since I already have the RTP) to shrink it down a bit.
Music: How much is too much?
I noticed while extracting the music files that a few of them have Japanese characters in their filenames.
Maybe for you this isn't true, but for me RPG Maker doesn't recognize or play files that have Japanese characters in their filenames--if I load such a game into RPG Maker 2003, then try to select a file with Japanese characters for an event, RPG Maker 2003 shows the Japanese characters as gibberish.
Even though Win7 displays the characters correctly, RPG Maker 2003 does not.
To ensure that everyone can hear the music while playing, you'll need to rename those mp3s. You can use RMTool to identify which maps/events correspond to those mp3s, because after renaming them you'll have to fix those maps/events so they'll play the renamed mp3s.
Maybe for you this isn't true, but for me RPG Maker doesn't recognize or play files that have Japanese characters in their filenames--if I load such a game into RPG Maker 2003, then try to select a file with Japanese characters for an event, RPG Maker 2003 shows the Japanese characters as gibberish.
Even though Win7 displays the characters correctly, RPG Maker 2003 does not.
To ensure that everyone can hear the music while playing, you'll need to rename those mp3s. You can use RMTool to identify which maps/events correspond to those mp3s, because after renaming them you'll have to fix those maps/events so they'll play the renamed mp3s.
Commodore 64 or Black and White?
author=PizzaAgreed.
Well, you could always design another game in a C64 palette, or make a sequel, or a deluxe version later on, or something. I just think that you should see it through to the end, really. Worrying about pleasing everyone isn't the way to go with a singular project, just worry about your core demographic.
The problem isn't even that it's in black and white.
The problem is that the black and white is too bright.
It creates this flickering effect when you move the images (try scrolling one of the game's screenshots up and down in your browser, and you'll see what I mean)
So, reduce the brightness and that should solve the problem.
Urgent Problem!
No, don't try to upload a folder.
Instead, you need to archive that folder in one of 3 formats: zip, rar or 7z.
You can use WinRar to archive to a rar file (choosing Best compression to make the rar file as small as possible)
WinRar is not freeware, but it comes with a trial that really has no limits to it. I guess you can call it nagware.
You can download WinRar here:
http://www.rarlab.com/
Or you can use 7-Zip to archive to a 7z file (again choosing either Maximum or Ultra compression to make the 7z file as small as possible)
Unlike WinRar, 7-Zip is freeware. You can find it here:
http://www.7-zip.org/
Both programs can also produce zip files; recent versions of Windows can also create zip files.
Here's how to do it with Windows:
Right-click the folder, point to Send To, and then click Compressed (zipped) Folder.
Instead, you need to archive that folder in one of 3 formats: zip, rar or 7z.
You can use WinRar to archive to a rar file (choosing Best compression to make the rar file as small as possible)
WinRar is not freeware, but it comes with a trial that really has no limits to it. I guess you can call it nagware.
You can download WinRar here:
http://www.rarlab.com/
Or you can use 7-Zip to archive to a 7z file (again choosing either Maximum or Ultra compression to make the 7z file as small as possible)
Unlike WinRar, 7-Zip is freeware. You can find it here:
http://www.7-zip.org/
Both programs can also produce zip files; recent versions of Windows can also create zip files.
Here's how to do it with Windows:
Right-click the folder, point to Send To, and then click Compressed (zipped) Folder.
No Title
y u gotta b soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopoooooooooooooooooooooioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo mean :'(
Going over to the dark side
author=alterego
I dunno, it may be a gamble... How well known is your game? (I just found about it ^^;) That right there may be your biggest obstacle. You'll probably need to pay for some publicity in order to get it noticed, and that of course will be another expense that you have to be certain it'll pay back... The game looks really nice, though, I was looking at the screens just now and there's lots of interesting stuff on it. Also, people from outside RM communities don't really care about the RTP, so you may have a good chance...
If I were you, though, and after coming all this way, I'd just release the game for free and maybe ask for donations. (Donation buttons in game profiles may be a reality someday) You can always make your next project commercial; Putting into practice all you've learned from the first game and taking advantage of the fact that people already know the quality of your work.
I can think of 3 people, off the top of my head, who've gone that route:
Harmonic:
Legacies of Dondoran - free & quite popular
Deadly Sin 1 & 2 - commercial
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Amaranth: (I think that's what she calls herself)
Ahriman's Prophecy - free & somewhat popular
Aveyond Series, among others - commercial
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Indinera Falls:
Laxius Power Series, Blades of Heaven - free & extremely popular (mainly because of heavy advertising outside the RM community)
Laxius Force Series - commercial
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm sure there are others.
Dream or Nightmare
Just put it on hiatus.
Cancellation should only be for games where you either lose all your work & don't want to start over, or if you're truly sick & tired of making the game (or games in general) and just want to quit.
But when it's because enough time is not currently, or even forseeably, available, that's what hiatus is for.
Cancellation should only be for games where you either lose all your work & don't want to start over, or if you're truly sick & tired of making the game (or games in general) and just want to quit.
But when it's because enough time is not currently, or even forseeably, available, that's what hiatus is for.
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