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It's finally here! The much-anticipated third installment of the RMN community series! And this time, halibabica's in charge!

WHAT IS THIS

Super RMN Bros. is a community collaborative game where everyone uses the Super Mario Bros. X engine to create Mario levels! The stages are made and submitted by members of RMN, then compiled into one big game at the end of the event. Huzzah!

WHAT YOU NEED TO PARTICIPATE

Super Mario Bros. X v1.3, available at the Download link. This is the latest version of SMBX. It has everything you need to get started from the player, the editor, and a sample world.

You can also download the SMBX Graphics Pack by Red Yoshi here. It has a ton of Mario Brothers graphics that you can use in your level with a simple copy+paste!

JUST WHAT IS SUPER MARIO BROTHERS X?

Super Mario Bros X is a freeware game engine by Redigit geared towards having the gameplay features and physics of Mario 3 and Super Mario World while adding a ton of cool features and not having to deal with the restrictions of the old (S)NES hardware. If you want to see what SMBX can do, check out the games here on RMN or watch these videos showcasing SMBX's capabilities!

Games are distributed as a world with levels package they can add to Super Mario Bros X and play from the main game. There is no way to make a self contained game so all players will need to download SMBX in order to even play the game. The game does come with a large set of graphics and sounds like the RPG Maker RTPs so everybody at least has a large number of platformer resources to work with (and it'll keep the download of the actual game itself small).

You can view the RMN engine page for SMBX here.

HELP!

The editor can be tricky to use, especially for beginners. You can ask questions on our SMBX Help thread on our forums! If you have any questions go there for some tips or helpful links.

We also have a tutorials section on RMN for SMBX.

SUBMISSION RULES

  • Levels must be made in SMBX v1.3 .
  • I don't know if you've ever made Mario levels before. There are dozens of hacks and roms out there, so it's possible you've played custom levels or created your own. However, this project is being made specifically in the SMBX engine, so if you want to contribute, you have to use that. You can download it here.

  • Levels must be made FOR THIS PROJECT
  • So, you've used SMBX before, huh? Hey, you can just submit levels you already made! Right? WRONG. If you didn't make the level specifically for RMN Bros. 3, you're not allowed to submit it. Do not just zip up the levels of your personal project and dump them in here (Davenport, I'm looking at you). Everyone has to start from scratch. And if I catch you trying to submit a pre-made level, ooh, I'll, I'LL- ...deny it. Simple as that, really.

  • Levels must end in ONE SMB3 STAR
  • Starman doesn't work in SMBX like it does in the Mario games of yore. Each one you collect instead adds to your star count. There are two kinds of stars in the engine: SMB3 stars and SMW stars. The latter adds to your star count, but doesn't end the level. The former concludes the stage when collected. Each level must have ONE and ONLY ONE level-ending star. However, you can have any number of SMW stars (covered later).

  • There is no limit to the number of levels you can submit.
  • Beyond these four rules, the sky's just about the limit. There are a few other criteria your levels must meet for them to be accepted, but they're nothing huge, and are as follows.

LEVEL CRITERIA

  1. Checkpoints
  2. Theoretically, every level should have one of these. It's the SMW checkpoint object that lets you continue from partway through the level. Unless your level is extremely short, it should have one. If it can't have one for specific reasons (auto-scrolling, switch block/character shenanigans, etc.), it's recommended you not make the stage too long. Also, SMBX can only support one checkpoint per level, so placing multiples doesn't work.

  3. Power-Ups
  4. Your stage should have a good balance of items that are helpful to the player. ? Blocks should never contain lone Mushrooms; don't be afraid to give the player a Fire Flower or Leaf. On the other hand, exceptional items like the Tanooki and Hammer Suits should not be easily obtained. Use discretion with where you place items. One at the start and one after the checkpoint would be the least you could do. Also, pick items that the player can put to good use. A Fire Flower in an area with monsters immune to fire does the player no good; maybe an Ice Flower or Yoshi might be better instead. On the subject of Yoshi, he's a power-up like any other, and no restrictions are being placed on his use. Similarly, all styles of Kuribo's Shoe are allowed. Just remember, these things are very helpful, so choose carefully where you make them available.

  5. Banned Objects
  6. Your level must not contain any of the following items. If it does, you will be required to remove them.

    • SMB2 Crystal Ball, SMB3 Roulette, SMB3 ? Ball, SMW Keyhole, SMW Exit Gate
    • All banned for the same reason; they end the level. All levels must end with an SMB3 Star. No other exit type is allowed.

    • SMW Bowser Statue
    • Banned due to its glitchy hit box. You can still be hit by its fireballs while standing on top of it. Use the SMB3 Bowser Statue instead!

    • SMW Dry Bones
    • Banned for its stupid hit box. You may place Dry Bones in your level, but all Dry Bones in the project will use the SMB3 sprites instead.

  7. Unbanned Objects
  8. These are objects that were disallowed in the past. I'm permitting them for the reasons stated.

    • SMB3 Lakitu
    • This was banned in RMN Bros. 2 because it behaves erratically. You may use them in your levels, but be very careful when you do. They aren't impossible to deal with, but they can make situations extremely difficult. You'll definitely hear from me if it's a problem.

    • SMW Star
    • These were formerly banned because they didn't end the level. You may now use them as bonus secret stars in your stages. The player can collect them on alternate paths, but must be able to return to the rest of the level after grabbing them. More on these later.

  9. Different Characters
  10. This is, first and foremost, a Mario game. Mario will be the only character available to play as, but that doesn't mean you can't use the other characters. If you want to make a stage involving Luigi, Toad, Peach, and/or Link, you must specify so. Include the appropriate character block at the start. If you don't, I'll assume the stage was meant to be played as Mario. You don't have to switch back to Mario at the end of the stage, though. I will manage character swapping in the hub area.

  11. Player 2 Start
  12. SMBX has the option to play with a friend by sharing a keyboard and crowding around a monitor. There is no way to disallow a multiplayer game, so be sure to include both P1 and P2's start positions in your levels. HOWEVER, this is all you need to do to accommodate the second player. Making a balanced one-player game is difficult enough, so don't sweat it if something doesn't quite work for multi-mode. I'm not checking two player compatibility; you don't have to either.

  13. Secret Stars
  14. Each stage must have only one SMB3 level-ending star, but you can have (almost) as many SMW stars you want. Before you go throwing secret stars everywhere, though, you should understand how they work. The most important thing to know is that you can only have one star per section of a level. That's not my rule; that's a quirk of SMBX. It can only register one star per stage section, as it flags all stars in that section as 'collected' if one of them is found. Because this is the case, any secret stars you place must be in different sections than the star that ends the level. Incidentally, this also means the most stars any level can have is 21. Don't worry; if you mess it up, I'll tell you about it!

  15. Water Must be SWIMMABLE

    You can set waterfalls to either be swimmable or not, but ordinary water must always be. Don't fill your pits with water if they're supposed to be bottomless.

  16. Misc. Stuff
    • Pipes, Doors, and Carry Items
    • By default, all entrances in SMBX are set to disallow the player from carrying an item with them through the portal. If your level has objects the player may want to bring with them, be sure to set your entrances properly.

    • One-Tile Passages
    • Avoid making paths that are only one tile high. If Mario stands up in one, he zips through the wall in the opposite direction he's facing. In some places, this isn't a problem, but in others it can break the game. Spare my telling you to fix it and avoid creating such circumstances.

    • Ceilings
    • If you're making a water level or Mario is able to fly, you may want to block the area off the top of the screen so the player can't soar over everything. In aquatic stages, one could swim past everything from up there, so it's extremely important to include (same goes for underwater pits, actually). Of helpful note: one block placed above or below a level's boundary will create an impassable wall.

STORY AND TUTORIALS

Nothing too complicated here. Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach, and Link have fallen into RMN's Pit of Challenges, where they must collect the stars from our levels if they ever hope to escape. The main villain is not Bowser, Wart, Kamek, Aristocrab, or anyone seen yet in the world of Mario. I will be making the final level myself, and the final boss is...me! Because by the time this is over, you will all want to kill me.

I will also be making a tutorial level that explains the mechanics of SMBX, covering both the basics and the advanced stuff. So don't bother explaining to the player how to break blocks with their tail or spin jump on Thwomps. I've got it covered!

TESTING AND FEEDBACK

This iteration of RMN Bros. is going to put greater emphasis on play testing and providing feedback for levels. I will be playing each level personally and leaving feedback the developers can use to improve their stages. My feedback will be divided into three categories:

  • Deal Breakers
  • These are things you MUST CHANGE or your level WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED. These include all variety of game breaking errors and poor balance/design. I will provide thoughts and ideas on how to fix these, depending on the complexity of the problem.

  • If-You-Don'ts
  • These are things that, if you don't change them, I will. These include things like levels without checkpoints, blocks containing only mushrooms, or levels with unfitting power-ups. If you don't make these corrections, I'll see to them in the end.

  • Nitpicks
  • These are small complaints of low importance. Things that would make the level look or feel nicer, but aren't really a problem on their own. These will most likely be aesthetic in nature, and they don't have to be changed for the level to be accepted.

    Although I will be testing each level thoroughly myself, I strongly encourage others to do the same. You don't have to follow the same methods of providing feedback I am (in fact, you don't really have the authority to!), but every bit of criticism helps.

ADDITIONAL STAFFERS

This is a big project, and it's very bold of me to be managing it alone. That's why I'm leaving open two spots for other users to join me in running the show. But you can't just sign up and say "Hey hali I'll be your game management bro." You have to PROVE YOUR WORTH. How, you might ask? By playing levels and leaving feedback! The more in-depth, the better. Show me you have what it takes to contribute to this project, and I'll let you in. If you can't handle the work, I have no reason to hire you.

Duties of these staffers would include testing others levels and leaving feedback, as well as helping refine my own stages, tutorial, hubs, and so forth. I'm a tough critic, but even I can't face my own work alone!

PROJECT TIMELINE

Signups begin NOW, and EVERYONE is free to join! The project will run for one month (thirty days), and levels may be submitted for testing during this time. When the month is up, no more levels will be accepted. Existing levels may still be updated based on feedback. I will do my best to have the whole thing compiled just one week after the event ends. Then we can download and enjoy!

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Posts

Decky
I'm a dog pirate
19517
Link2112, Vanilla Lake is far from an ordinary Mario level. Just FYI. :P
Seiromem
I would have more makerscore If I did things.
6374
Alright a new level.....
Dr. Toadly the mad scientist, the man toad has been chasing for years.
I swear, this'll be my, AT LEAST second to, last one for tonight!!!!!!!!


EDIT: I fixxed a few errors i found in those two levels!!!
Just minor flaws, one Game-breaking tho o.o

EDIT 2: Added a custom graphic to the level "Dr. Toadly" =D!!!! Just one though -.-
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
15558
from Link_2112
So in summation; don't touch my shit, thanks :)

Don't jump to conclusions. I'm not going mad with power or something.

What I planned to do for all levels with secret stars was to add 3-up moons in the same location as those stars. The moons appear when the stars are collected. The reason I'm doing this is because secret stars can only be collected once. There's no point in revisiting them when you already have them, so the 3-up moons become the new reward instead. Can ya dig it?
author=Deckiller
Link2112, Vanilla Lake is far from an ordinary Mario level. Just FYI. :P

To hell with ordinary!

author=halibabica
There's no point in revisiting them when you already have them, so the 3-up moons become the new reward instead. Can ya dig it?

I don't see a point in doing that, but w/e. I'll just add that in to my levels. haha I'm not freaking out cause I don't want you to touch my levels, I'll just take care of it cause I know how. Save you the trouble.
author=halibabica
There's no point in revisiting them when you already have them, so the 3-up moons become the new reward instead.

I like the idea, I personally have no idea how to make it work so the moons
come available if you go out and back in the stage, unless theres some way of preventing events from resetting that I don't know.

Glad, I don't have to do that, even though if someone tells me how, I could gladly do it,
like Link_2112 said it would save ya the trouble.
Halibabica, my levels require re-reviewing... (Crystal Cave, Wooden World & Desert Dunes)
Hm... like the idea of the 3-Ups idea (Such a shame I haven't got ANY secret levels...)
Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
12986
I finally submitted a level. xD

It's a relatively easy desert-themed level called Tomb of the Toadstool Emperor. I tested it with all characters and should be playable with any of them.

Let me know what you think.
LEECH
who am i and how did i get in here
2599
I havnt been around lately (I HAVE OBTAINED A LIFE! And by life, i mean im learning how to program so i can actually make games as a living)

But yeah, ill join. Then never show up again...
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
15558
from Link_2112
I don't see a point in doing that

It's risk and reward. Secret stars are hidden in tricky places, right? So you go there once and your reward is a star. Yay!!! You go there again and your reward is...nothing. You wasted your time. Congratulations.

By adding 3-up moons to these places, your reward is no longer nothing, but something! If that doesn't make sense to you, I can't help you.

from apa649
I personally have no idea how to make it work so the moons
come available if you go out and back in the stage, unless theres some way of preventing events from resetting that I don't know.

It's actually not that hard, I'm just not asking anyone to do it because it's kinda tedious. You have to put the moon on its own layer, move the star aside, place the moon, hide the moon layer, move the star back, and set an event so the moon appears upon the star's death. Collecting the star counts as a kill, but SMBX auto-kills any stars you've already collected anyway (thus making the moons appear). See? Tedious!

from jackalotrun
my levels require re-reviewing...

I'm busy 'til Sunday. :<

from Ratty524
I tested it with all characters and should be playable with any of them.

Congrats. Only Mario is available unless the level is made for a specific character (or you're GRS and the unfortunate person he tricks into playing 2P with him). As above, I'll look at it Sunday.
author=halibabica
It's actually not that hard, I'm just not asking anyone to do it because it's kinda tedious. You have to put the moon on its own layer, move the star aside, place the moon, hide the moon layer, move the star back, and set an event so the moon appears upon the star's death. Collecting the star counts as a kill, but SMBX auto-kills any stars you've already collected anyway (thus making the moons appear). See? Tedious!


Okay, by my logic that still drops the moon the second you collect the star.
Instead of what I thought you meant by it as in coming back will give you the 3up moon and the first time you come there
you ONLY get the star.

Shoudn't it be made so that you only get the moon if you REVISIT the stage instead of everytime you collect the star OR come back. Even though that's very hard to do.

OR maybe my logic is overthinking things... It might work even as it is, but... UGH I'm digging way too deep into this.
Actually just do it like you intened to, I have no idea how SMBX logic works so, whatever.

I can create some reviews tomorrow possibly.
As for today I'm mainly finishing school work and hangin' out with my non-existant friends.
author=halibabica
You go there again and your reward is...nothing.
It's this that makes no sense. Who is playing through a stage and decides to revisit a place where they got a secret star? You get the secret star, you play the level again but go a different way, then you move on and never play the stage again.

I get what risk and reward is. I just don't see a point in adding 3ups when getting game over is basically meaningless in SMBX. Getting extra lives is just as pointless as running the secret route in a level a second time. So instead of having 1ups collected along the way, if I want extra lives I have to run the usually tedious trail to the secret star?

It's not a big deal to add it, but it's still pretty pointless. If this was anything other than SMBX it might actually be helpful.
Why argue of something as COMMON as that?
Hes just trying to get an awesome idea in
Although personally, I think that a 3-Ups a little too much...
And 1-ups do have use, running out of lives when a checkpoint send you back to the start
kentona
Your mom is a hero
20851


Level: Supra Mairo Bors 2 - Whale Whale Whale
Style: SMB2 World 4
Difficulty: 3/5
Notes: Custom whale graphics aren't 100% accurate, but they work! Also, just like SMB2, the water is instant death (no swimming!). Swimming would totally break this level, btw, so I am not changing it.
heh I wonder how that level will hold up to rule #8.
kentona
Your mom is a hero
20851
the water in this level is actually a very still waterfall, and waterfalls are optional for swimming. WHACHU GONNA DO ABOUT IT HUH?
@kentona
Put a sign in the beginning that says "this level contains DEATH WATER!"
Because no-one will understand my reference, here is a clip of ProtonJonSA's playthrough.

BTW. I did'nt make this video either...
Seriously the sign would clarify that this level is an exception, but then again if
it's really that diffrent in style, maybe it works without a sign.
So there's no water, but underfoot is a waterfall that you decided not to make swimable?

ha I'd play the level, but ya know, that'd ruin the magic. I'm just curious as to how it will be accepted/denied xD

You weren't kidding about Davenporting this beast.
kentona
Your mom is a hero
20851
author=apa649
@kentona
Put a sign in the beginning that says "this level contains DEATH WATER!"
Because no-one will understand my reference, here is a clip of ProtonJonSA's playthrough.

video

BTW. I did'nt make this video either...
Seriously the sign would clarify that this level is an exception, but then again if
it's really that diffrent in style, maybe it works without a sign.
Did you play the level? There is a sign already.

author=Link_2112
So there's no water, but underfoot is a waterfall that you decided not to make swimable?

ha I'd play the level, but ya know, that'd ruin the magic. I'm just curious as to how it will be accepted/denied xD

You weren't kidding about Davenporting this beast.
I am a man of my word. But I only have 2 ideas left right now...
Decky
I'm a dog pirate
19517
Alright, I submitted the "perfected" versions of my two finished levels.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
15558
You could just make the backgrounds actual waterfalls, then have it implied that like the whales are at the top of the falls and when you fall off you fall down with the water or some junk like that.

YOU DID THIS TO TEST ME DIDN'T YOU