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It's finally here! The much-anticipated third installment of the RMN community series! And this time, halibabica's in charge!

WHAT IS THIS

Super RMN Bros. is a community collaborative game where everyone uses the Super Mario Bros. X engine to create Mario levels! The stages are made and submitted by members of RMN, then compiled into one big game at the end of the event. Huzzah!

WHAT YOU NEED TO PARTICIPATE

Super Mario Bros. X v1.3, available at the Download link. This is the latest version of SMBX. It has everything you need to get started from the player, the editor, and a sample world.

You can also download the SMBX Graphics Pack by Red Yoshi here. It has a ton of Mario Brothers graphics that you can use in your level with a simple copy+paste!

JUST WHAT IS SUPER MARIO BROTHERS X?

Super Mario Bros X is a freeware game engine by Redigit geared towards having the gameplay features and physics of Mario 3 and Super Mario World while adding a ton of cool features and not having to deal with the restrictions of the old (S)NES hardware. If you want to see what SMBX can do, check out the games here on RMN or watch these videos showcasing SMBX's capabilities!

Games are distributed as a world with levels package they can add to Super Mario Bros X and play from the main game. There is no way to make a self contained game so all players will need to download SMBX in order to even play the game. The game does come with a large set of graphics and sounds like the RPG Maker RTPs so everybody at least has a large number of platformer resources to work with (and it'll keep the download of the actual game itself small).

You can view the RMN engine page for SMBX here.

HELP!

The editor can be tricky to use, especially for beginners. You can ask questions on our SMBX Help thread on our forums! If you have any questions go there for some tips or helpful links.

We also have a tutorials section on RMN for SMBX.

SUBMISSION RULES

  • Levels must be made in SMBX v1.3 .
  • I don't know if you've ever made Mario levels before. There are dozens of hacks and roms out there, so it's possible you've played custom levels or created your own. However, this project is being made specifically in the SMBX engine, so if you want to contribute, you have to use that. You can download it here.

  • Levels must be made FOR THIS PROJECT
  • So, you've used SMBX before, huh? Hey, you can just submit levels you already made! Right? WRONG. If you didn't make the level specifically for RMN Bros. 3, you're not allowed to submit it. Do not just zip up the levels of your personal project and dump them in here (Davenport, I'm looking at you). Everyone has to start from scratch. And if I catch you trying to submit a pre-made level, ooh, I'll, I'LL- ...deny it. Simple as that, really.

  • Levels must end in ONE SMB3 STAR
  • Starman doesn't work in SMBX like it does in the Mario games of yore. Each one you collect instead adds to your star count. There are two kinds of stars in the engine: SMB3 stars and SMW stars. The latter adds to your star count, but doesn't end the level. The former concludes the stage when collected. Each level must have ONE and ONLY ONE level-ending star. However, you can have any number of SMW stars (covered later).

  • There is no limit to the number of levels you can submit.
  • Beyond these four rules, the sky's just about the limit. There are a few other criteria your levels must meet for them to be accepted, but they're nothing huge, and are as follows.

LEVEL CRITERIA

  1. Checkpoints
  2. Theoretically, every level should have one of these. It's the SMW checkpoint object that lets you continue from partway through the level. Unless your level is extremely short, it should have one. If it can't have one for specific reasons (auto-scrolling, switch block/character shenanigans, etc.), it's recommended you not make the stage too long. Also, SMBX can only support one checkpoint per level, so placing multiples doesn't work.

  3. Power-Ups
  4. Your stage should have a good balance of items that are helpful to the player. ? Blocks should never contain lone Mushrooms; don't be afraid to give the player a Fire Flower or Leaf. On the other hand, exceptional items like the Tanooki and Hammer Suits should not be easily obtained. Use discretion with where you place items. One at the start and one after the checkpoint would be the least you could do. Also, pick items that the player can put to good use. A Fire Flower in an area with monsters immune to fire does the player no good; maybe an Ice Flower or Yoshi might be better instead. On the subject of Yoshi, he's a power-up like any other, and no restrictions are being placed on his use. Similarly, all styles of Kuribo's Shoe are allowed. Just remember, these things are very helpful, so choose carefully where you make them available.

  5. Banned Objects
  6. Your level must not contain any of the following items. If it does, you will be required to remove them.

    • SMB2 Crystal Ball, SMB3 Roulette, SMB3 ? Ball, SMW Keyhole, SMW Exit Gate
    • All banned for the same reason; they end the level. All levels must end with an SMB3 Star. No other exit type is allowed.

    • SMW Bowser Statue
    • Banned due to its glitchy hit box. You can still be hit by its fireballs while standing on top of it. Use the SMB3 Bowser Statue instead!

    • SMW Dry Bones
    • Banned for its stupid hit box. You may place Dry Bones in your level, but all Dry Bones in the project will use the SMB3 sprites instead.

  7. Unbanned Objects
  8. These are objects that were disallowed in the past. I'm permitting them for the reasons stated.

    • SMB3 Lakitu
    • This was banned in RMN Bros. 2 because it behaves erratically. You may use them in your levels, but be very careful when you do. They aren't impossible to deal with, but they can make situations extremely difficult. You'll definitely hear from me if it's a problem.

    • SMW Star
    • These were formerly banned because they didn't end the level. You may now use them as bonus secret stars in your stages. The player can collect them on alternate paths, but must be able to return to the rest of the level after grabbing them. More on these later.

  9. Different Characters
  10. This is, first and foremost, a Mario game. Mario will be the only character available to play as, but that doesn't mean you can't use the other characters. If you want to make a stage involving Luigi, Toad, Peach, and/or Link, you must specify so. Include the appropriate character block at the start. If you don't, I'll assume the stage was meant to be played as Mario. You don't have to switch back to Mario at the end of the stage, though. I will manage character swapping in the hub area.

  11. Player 2 Start
  12. SMBX has the option to play with a friend by sharing a keyboard and crowding around a monitor. There is no way to disallow a multiplayer game, so be sure to include both P1 and P2's start positions in your levels. HOWEVER, this is all you need to do to accommodate the second player. Making a balanced one-player game is difficult enough, so don't sweat it if something doesn't quite work for multi-mode. I'm not checking two player compatibility; you don't have to either.

  13. Secret Stars
  14. Each stage must have only one SMB3 level-ending star, but you can have (almost) as many SMW stars you want. Before you go throwing secret stars everywhere, though, you should understand how they work. The most important thing to know is that you can only have one star per section of a level. That's not my rule; that's a quirk of SMBX. It can only register one star per stage section, as it flags all stars in that section as 'collected' if one of them is found. Because this is the case, any secret stars you place must be in different sections than the star that ends the level. Incidentally, this also means the most stars any level can have is 21. Don't worry; if you mess it up, I'll tell you about it!

  15. Water Must be SWIMMABLE

    You can set waterfalls to either be swimmable or not, but ordinary water must always be. Don't fill your pits with water if they're supposed to be bottomless.

  16. Misc. Stuff
    • Pipes, Doors, and Carry Items
    • By default, all entrances in SMBX are set to disallow the player from carrying an item with them through the portal. If your level has objects the player may want to bring with them, be sure to set your entrances properly.

    • One-Tile Passages
    • Avoid making paths that are only one tile high. If Mario stands up in one, he zips through the wall in the opposite direction he's facing. In some places, this isn't a problem, but in others it can break the game. Spare my telling you to fix it and avoid creating such circumstances.

    • Ceilings
    • If you're making a water level or Mario is able to fly, you may want to block the area off the top of the screen so the player can't soar over everything. In aquatic stages, one could swim past everything from up there, so it's extremely important to include (same goes for underwater pits, actually). Of helpful note: one block placed above or below a level's boundary will create an impassable wall.

STORY AND TUTORIALS

Nothing too complicated here. Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach, and Link have fallen into RMN's Pit of Challenges, where they must collect the stars from our levels if they ever hope to escape. The main villain is not Bowser, Wart, Kamek, Aristocrab, or anyone seen yet in the world of Mario. I will be making the final level myself, and the final boss is...me! Because by the time this is over, you will all want to kill me.

I will also be making a tutorial level that explains the mechanics of SMBX, covering both the basics and the advanced stuff. So don't bother explaining to the player how to break blocks with their tail or spin jump on Thwomps. I've got it covered!

TESTING AND FEEDBACK

This iteration of RMN Bros. is going to put greater emphasis on play testing and providing feedback for levels. I will be playing each level personally and leaving feedback the developers can use to improve their stages. My feedback will be divided into three categories:

  • Deal Breakers
  • These are things you MUST CHANGE or your level WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED. These include all variety of game breaking errors and poor balance/design. I will provide thoughts and ideas on how to fix these, depending on the complexity of the problem.

  • If-You-Don'ts
  • These are things that, if you don't change them, I will. These include things like levels without checkpoints, blocks containing only mushrooms, or levels with unfitting power-ups. If you don't make these corrections, I'll see to them in the end.

  • Nitpicks
  • These are small complaints of low importance. Things that would make the level look or feel nicer, but aren't really a problem on their own. These will most likely be aesthetic in nature, and they don't have to be changed for the level to be accepted.

    Although I will be testing each level thoroughly myself, I strongly encourage others to do the same. You don't have to follow the same methods of providing feedback I am (in fact, you don't really have the authority to!), but every bit of criticism helps.

ADDITIONAL STAFFERS

This is a big project, and it's very bold of me to be managing it alone. That's why I'm leaving open two spots for other users to join me in running the show. But you can't just sign up and say "Hey hali I'll be your game management bro." You have to PROVE YOUR WORTH. How, you might ask? By playing levels and leaving feedback! The more in-depth, the better. Show me you have what it takes to contribute to this project, and I'll let you in. If you can't handle the work, I have no reason to hire you.

Duties of these staffers would include testing others levels and leaving feedback, as well as helping refine my own stages, tutorial, hubs, and so forth. I'm a tough critic, but even I can't face my own work alone!

PROJECT TIMELINE

Signups begin NOW, and EVERYONE is free to join! The project will run for one month (thirty days), and levels may be submitted for testing during this time. When the month is up, no more levels will be accepted. Existing levels may still be updated based on feedback. I will do my best to have the whole thing compiled just one week after the event ends. Then we can download and enjoy!

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Blasted Boos
Updated
Bye bye lame boss battle
Bye bye lame wall of spikes
Bye bye lame secret star
Hello larger descend
Hello extra tough boss battle (although its a cakewalk with an Ice flower... (Which there are lots of!))
Hello tougher (more frustrating) secret star

...Enjoy!...
author=halibabica
Also, someone was wondering how many times Boom-Boom appeared in this. Well, he's in a few more places than this, but he's the boss of eleven levels, and two of those levels have a duo of Boom-Booms. o.o

I think that was me. Well, it's probably less than the number of Boom-Booms in SMB3. He tends to get overused.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
At least some of the SMB3 ones could fly. He's a one-trick pony in SMBX. ._.
author=halibabica
At least some of the SMB3 ones could fly. He's a one-trick pony in SMBX. ._.

You can make him "fly" if you turn off his gravity. But when he jumps, he doesn't come back down. So you get a Boom-Boom that moves back and forth across the ceiling.

Btw, if anyone wants to make more SMBX stuff, PM me. I feel like starting a project.

Good luck to everyone who's still fixing their levels. And good luck to Halibabica on that final level.
@nin8halos
I'm not sure...
I could be down for some more SMBX goodness, but after SRMNB3 I need to catch up with my school work.
After that I can consider your offer again.
I opened up my level and the 3rd and 4th section had the castle theme...
Are you sure they were still the ghost house tune?

sorry,sorry,I see what you mean I'll change those too.

Sorry about Dubble post.
I'll swear I won't do such thing again... today.

EDIT:
OOPS
I can't believe I'm admitting this, but you were sort of right about my hard path.
THERE is 1 obstacle that is impossible to beat... legit as SUPER mario.
I should've seen that and I will modify it, so it can be done as super without gettin' hit.
I'm also working on the proof vid, but it's harder than I thought.

Here is lame proof that you can get through the route ALSO I'm uploading the new file as I'm writing this.

And the Update is Complete!
My Locker - Media - Hammer_Hideout.zip
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
I'd like you all to pay careful attention to what happened at the end of that video. He survived the hard path, got the hammer suit, and then what happened? Yeah. That's why it's not worth it.

I'll check out the update. ;P
Hows the new Blasted Boos Halibabica?
Is it better?
author=nin8halosAt least some of the SMB3 ones could fly. He's a one-trick pony in SMBX. ._.[/quote
You can make him "fly" if you turn off his gravity. But when he jumps, he doesn't come back down. So you get a Boom-Boom that moves back and forth across the ceiling.

Btw, if anyone wants to make more SMBX stuff, PM me. I feel like starting a project
You could make him glide by decreasing the gravity so that he comes down slowly enough so that he comes down very slowly but is on the floor when he jumps

Is it in any way possible to turn Link into Kirby?
@ halibabica
So... Should I give more stuff to the player or should I make it easier, delete it.
what's your suggestion?
Oh and btw my fail at the end was caused by lag from the recorder.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
from jackalotrun
Hows the new Blasted Boos Halibabica?
Is it better?
It's much better, but it still has two small problems. See the end of this post.

from jackalotrun
from nin8halos
You can make him "fly" if you turn off his gravity. But when he jumps, he doesn't come back down.
You could make him glide by decreasing the gravity so that he comes down slowly
Not quite. SMBX doesn't allow variable gravity. It's either on or off, unless I'm mistaken.

from jackalotrun
Is it in any way possible to turn Link into Kirby?
You could turn anyone into Kirby if you replace their sprites. Whether it'd make sense or not is another story.

from apa649
@ halibabica
So... Should I give more stuff to the player or should I make it easier, delete it.
what's your suggestion?
Oh and btw my fail at the end was caused by lag from the recorder.
Given that it's possible but insanely hard, I'd give them two Hammer Suits and a 3-up moon just for their trouble. Whatever the cause of you falling in the spikes at the end was, the point remains: power-ups are easy to lose. That's why they're not always the greatest reward, no matter how useful.

Splinter Bay
Deal Breakers

- I don’t think you get quite what I mean with the saws in the interior part. Allow me to illustrate:



This gap is too wide. Pictured here is the closest these two saws are ever together, and they’re only this close for a split second. Jumping from one to the other requires a lot of timing and luck.



This is the same situation with the track extended one tile further to the left. Now the window of opportunity is much wider and Mario can make the jump between the saws without needing preemptive timing. After that, it’s easy enough. Also, you still have some useless fire flowers lying around, both inside and out of the boat.

Blasted Boos
If You Don’ts

- as clever as your use of the rocket boards is with level wrap on, the player can’t ride them from one side of the screen to the other. You should place walls on the sides so the player knows they can’t get through.

- roto-discs must always be orbiting something! Even when they’re Boo Buddies. The first one you see should have the block it's orbiting look more obvious (ie not the same as the ones to the left and right of it).
Blasted Boos

I couldn't have exactly added walls due to a glitch where the wall just stops the block if it a block above or below it but I did add a sign

I erased the first Boo Buddy and added Roto-Disc blocks for the others...
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
from jackalotrun
I couldn't have exactly added walls due to a glitch where the wall just stops the block if it a block above or below it

...well, that sucks.

Luckily, I was able to find a solution! :D

1. Build your wall out of npc-58. That's in the SMB3 Block NPCs. It looks sorta like a cannon on its side.
2. Save a .txt file with the name 'npc-58' and include the following lines:

playerblock= 1
playerblocktop= 1
npcblock= 0
npcblocktop= 0
noblockcollision= 1
nogravity= 1

3. Give npc-58 a new sprite to match the Ghost House blocks.

And voila! The rocket boards won't stop at the wall, but the player will. It's INGENIOUS, I tell you!

Also, turns out I was mistaken. The first Boo Buddy was fine. It was the second one that needed a more obvious center.
author=halibabica
from jackalotrun
from nin8halos
You can make him "fly" if you turn off his gravity. But when he jumps, he doesn't come back down.
You could make him glide by decreasing the gravity so that he comes down slowly
Not quite. SMBX doesn't allow variable gravity. It's either on or off, unless I'm mistaken.

You are correct.
author=jackalotrun
who, me or halibabica?

Halibabica.
Isrieri
"My father told me this would happen."
6155
Found a mistake at the end of Stratosprint: At the end, its possible to get stuck on the wrong side of a wall. So I fixed that up.

OKAY. NO MORE BUGS. I SWEAR. I CHECKED.

Saw obstacle problem fixed: Heres the final link.
1. http://rpgmaker.net/users/Davenport/locker/Splinter_Bay.zip
Allright, no more updates..
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
from Davenport
Also made an additional level
Sorry, the deadline has passed. I'm not accepting any new levels.

@Isrieri: did you see my question about the Hazy Maze Cave music?

@jack: did you try the thing I suggested for Blasted Boos?
Isrieri
"My father told me this would happen."
6155
@halibabica: I did see that, yeah. The mp3 might be built into the editor but for whatever reason it'll start to loop once you get halfway into the track. I wanted it to play the whole mp3, so I uploaded a version that goes all the way through. It doesn't really matter that much though, so if you want to yank it out of there feel free.

Also for the Power Plant suggestion, I'd prefer to leave it be. I planned for it to be one big section from the start. I think it'll work alright.