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mantlecore77 here, coming back from the dead.
And recently I have become very much a fan of SSB. I plan on getting Brawl soon.

And I'm just dying to get my ideas of a good SSB lineup out.

I have 50 characters.

1.) Mario - of course!
2.) Luigi - of course! (less of a clone of Mario's as well)
3.) Peach - used to hate her, but her moves are pretty sick
4.) Bowser - King of Koopas, son
5.) Yoshi
6.) Birdo - some of you might hate me for this, but this egg spittin' dino is a classic Mushroom Kingdom baddy
7.) Wario
8.) Waluigi - he may be sorta boring, but they could spruce him up like they spruced up Wario up for Warioware
9.) Geno - all of you should know this classic Super Mario RPG fighter. HARDCORE!
10.) Donkey Kong
11.) Diddy Kong - I don't really like some of his moves in Brawl, so change it a bit... (honestly, a banana peel?)
12.) Dixie Kong - a classic Kong from the DKC series deserves a spotlight
13.) King K. Rool - ranking in the heavyweights as well, this guy needs to get some time
14.) Link - Link is definately my favorite SSB character by far. He sucks though, haha, so if my list was a game, this guy would kick some major butt, making him quicker and not such a walking arsenal like in the previous games
15.) Zelda
16.) Ganondorf - I love this character but HATE how he's a clone of C. Falcon. He's original enough to have some original moves, don't you think?
17.) Kirby - I think that Kirby and his two buddies below are enough for his series
18.) King Dedede
19.) Meta Knight
20.) Pikachu
21.) Jigglypuff - I've hated this character since the original SSB, but she's been along for too long so I couldn't drop her, really. It's just too odd.
22.) Mewtwo - I'm not a huge fan of Pokemon, really, but he was awesome in Melee and I'm P.O.'d that they dropped this classic for Lucario
23.) Pokemon Trainer - same as the Brawl trainer
24.) Pokemon Trainer 2 - ahh! throw some Jhoto league Pokemon in and you got a balanced twist. (Chicorite, the Lv. 2 of Cyndaquil, and Feraligatr)
25.) Fox - I miss his graceful juggling skills
26.) Falco - definately lessen his clonage of Fox and give him a new B^ and B> move
27.) Krystal - never seen her in a videogame myself but she seems like an important Star Fox role player
28.) Wolf - you're definately right, Natook, he needs to be less of a clone of Fox. But I don't know him enough to say how they would do it; but they should
29.) Sonic - I've heard that this guy's speed can get you really cheap victories, so I'm gonna have to say that he needs to slow down a tad... when I say a tad, I mean barely a tad
30.) Tails
31.) Knuckles (my personal fav Sonic character)
32.) Dr. Eggman
33.) Shadow - the only "clone" that I would really approve, but he'd be a tad slower and stronger than Sonic and have some original moves
34.) Marth - I hate this guy, he's weird, but like Jigglypuff, he's been around too long
35.) Ike - never used him, but he seems a lot better than Marth
36.) Ashnard - from Fire Emlbem. Seriously, don't they need an antagonist?
37.) Ness - I absolutely LOATHE Ness, but he's a good character from Earthbound so... I have to keep him. Nevertheless, I always make him my punching bag in Versus
38.) Lucas - PK Teleport instead of PK Thunder, eh?
39.) Megaman - GGGAAAAHHH!! I love Megaman! He has so many different move options I can't even specify, but if Nintendo never puts him in a SSB game I will cry.
40.) Zero - Megaman's perfect partner
41.) Dr. Wily - he would be pretty gay, I must admit, but his rivalry between Megaman is a classic Nintendo system symbol
42.) Sigma - Natook helped me on this one, saying that Sigma has been a Megaman enemy for a long while now
43.) Snake
44.) Olimar & Pikmin - sure Olimar never really was a true fighter but he is a truly original Nintendo character with lots of options and I'm glad they put him in Brawl
45.) Mr. Game & Watch
46.) Samus
47.) Ridley - I don't know what they would make him like, but Samus NEEDS a series partner, good or bad
48.) Bomberman - Yes. Yes. YES. Great Nintendo original.
49.) Captain Falcon
50.) Ice Climbers - I don't like these guys myself, but they're a good throwback duo


Definately lose...
1.) R.O.B. - OK, it's cool that they want to throw some classic NES or whatever characters in, but this guy didn't even really fight.
2.) Pit - I hate to be blunt or offend anyone who loves this guy but... FRUITCUP
3.) Lucario - Mewtwo's better



Argue me! Tell me what you think/want. This isn't a blog for myself to read.
halibabica
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Well, I agree with some of the ones you wanted to see in there. It's a lengthy list, though, so I'll just state the ones I would've liked to see that weren't already on yours.

Tom Nook - Animal Crossing has a stage and a ton of trophies for its title, but no fighter? Come on! I heard that the developers were uncomfortable with an Animal Crossing fighter, but if Princess Zelda and Peach can hold their own in a game like this, then why not?

Mii - Having a playable Mii would've been incredible. I know they could've done this, too, because they did it in the new Mario Kart for the Wii. The Mii would have it's own moveset (probably derived from Wii Sports), but it would look like one of the ones created on the console. It's strength/weight/speed could all be determined by its proportions, making it very flexible and unique.

Paper Mario - as something of an answer to Toon Link, he could be Mario's second incarnation. However, disregarding the stupid clone rules, he would have a moveset related to the Paper Mario series. There's plenty of untapped potential there. I also think they could've done a lot more with Toon Link, but didn't (Sakurai's excuse: "As a rule, the special moves are all the same.").

Even though there was a lot more they could've done with Brawl, I'm still happy with it the way it is. It may not be the ultimate Nintendo fighter fangame yet, but they've done a wonderful job nonetheless.

And what do you have against Pit and ROB? They're in the same boat as Mr. Game & Watch and Ice Climbers. These characters, while not the most popular, are still part of Nintendo's history, and I think it's awesome that they're willing to tribute their old classics like this.
Well I have to say, your list pretty much sucks. Not because Pit is my favorite character and I could trash whatever character you tried fighting me with, but for a multitude of reasons. I disagree with the following:

6.) Birdo - He's a pussy, and he sucks at life
8.) Waluigi - Well, seeing how you already picked up 8 characters from the Mario world... let's see some diversity. And not an old, old wooden ship ;D (sorry, I watched Anchorman the other day.. again...)
12.) Dixie Kong - Too much Donkey Kong already. The only thing she could do was helicopter her way around. Which was freaking slow.
23.) Pokemon Trainer - I really didn't like this idea. They already have pokemon playable, and then having three different characters in one is pushing it.
24.) Pokemon Trainer 2 - If I didn't like the first one, I probably won't support a second one.
27.) Krystal - Well.. no
28.) Wolf - You're so against cloning and he'd pretty much just be another one. He's a pretty cool character, but yeah he wasn't much different from fox.
29.) Sonic - Uhh.. you can keep him, but he's all about speed, why the heck would you slow him down?
30.) Tails - Totally useless character
32.) Dr. Eggman - Wtf would he do? Get his name changed and prance around like a retard like in all his games?
33.) Shadow - I would love having Shadow on there, but why the heck do you want to slow him down too? SONIC SERIES NEEDS TO = SPEED DANG IT!
34.) Marth - I just plain don't like him.
39.) Megaman - He may be an awesome character, but people would whine about what powers he can choose from. All this would do is make more reasons for people to be disappointed.
41.) Dr. Wily - Let's face it, he'd be either a pussy, or ridiculously cheap.
42.) Sigma - One appearance? You need to play possibly the entire X series. Where he showed up in all 8 games. (It could be more, but last I checked, there were 8 ) Also, in a good majority of those games he was a dismembered head.
43.) Snake - Seriously? Ok, someone help me out on this one, when was he actually in a nintendo game? I thought he was always playstation. His brawl ball ability was pretty gay too. 20% is a hefty thing to add per grenade, but... it was still pretty gay. But yeah, I can't remember any game he was in. I'm more than likely wrong and he was in some random game from the SNES days that nobody liked, but since playstation made him awesome then heck why not put him in there they thought.
44.) Olimar & Pikmin - Ehhh... just... no...
47.) Ridley - Ridley would be useless as a character. Possibly as a special feature in one of the Samus related maps. But not as a playable character

There's not really anybody specific I'd like to see on here. I'd like to see Meta Knight get a tad bit stronger since his attacks totally suck. Uhh... also, I think they should've stopped with the pokemon after Pikachu. Pikachu was pretty much the mascot for pokemon (they even made the yellow version just for him) and now people will complain about other pokemon that do/don't appear in future games.
You know what would make me infinitely happy?

A create your player feature on SSB. I would NEVER put it down then.
author=RoseSkye link=topic=1432.msg22418#msg22418 date=1214800621
You know what would make me infinitely happy?

A create your player feature on SSB. I would NEVER put it down then.

Suddenly, SSB drops to the quallity of Mugen.
It would be nice, but it just wouldn't work...

I can't be bothered to type a giant list right now. If Jenna from Golden Sun was on there, I'd be set. That will never happen though....... *sigh*
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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I want Paperboy.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
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author=Dudesoft link=topic=1432.msg22439#msg22439 date=1214816036
I want Paperboy.
Now THERE's an old character worth rethinking! Soaring Eagle, too.

author=Natook link=topic=1432.msg22405#msg22405 date=1214792511
6.) Birdo - He's a pussy, and he sucks at life
8.) Waluigi - Well, seeing how you already picked up 8 characters from the Mario world... let's see some diversity. And not an old, old wooden ship ;D (sorry, I watched Anchorman the other day.. again...)
12.) Dixie Kong - Too much Donkey Kong already. The only thing she could do was helicopter her way around. Which was freaking slow.
23.) Pokemon Trainer - I really didn't like this idea. They already have pokemon playable, and then having three different characters in one is pushing it.
24.) Pokemon Trainer 2 - If I didn't like the first one, I probably won't support a second one.
27.) Krystal - Well.. no
28.) Wolf - You're so against cloning and he'd pretty much just be another one. He's a pretty cool character, but yeah he wasn't much different from fox.
29.) Sonic - Uhh.. you can keep him, but he's all about speed, why the heck would you slow him down?
30.) Tails - Totally useless character
32.) Dr. Eggman - Wtf would he do? Get his name changed and prance around like a retard like in all his games?
33.) Shadow - I would love having Shadow on there, but why the heck do you want to slow him down too? SONIC SERIES NEEDS TO = SPEED DANG IT!
34.) Marth - I just plain don't like him.
39.) Megaman - He may be an awesome character, but people would whine about what powers he can choose from. All this would do is make more reasons for people to be disappointed.
41.) Dr. Wily - Let's face it, he'd be either a pussy, or ridiculously cheap.
42.) Sigma - One appearance? You need to play possibly the entire X series. Where he showed up in all 8 games. (It could be more, but last I checked, there were 8 ) Also, in a good majority of those games he was a dismembered head.
43.) Snake - Seriously? Ok, someone help me out on this one, when was he actually in a nintendo game? I thought he was always playstation. His brawl ball ability was pretty gay too. 20% is a hefty thing to add per grenade, but... it was still pretty gay. But yeah, I can't remember any game he was in. I'm more than likely wrong and he was in some random game from the SNES days that nobody liked, but since playstation made him awesome then heck why not put him in there they thought.
44.) Olimar & Pikmin - Ehhh... just... no...
47.) Ridley - Ridley would be useless as a character. Possibly as a special feature in one of the Samus related maps. But not as a playable character

There's not really anybody specific I'd like to see on here. I'd like to see Meta Knight get a tad bit stronger since his attacks totally suck. Uhh... also, I think they should've stopped with the pokemon after Pikachu. Pikachu was pretty much the mascot for pokemon (they even made the yellow version just for him) and now people will complain about other pokemon that do/don't appear in future games.

Wow, opinionated.I would agree that some of these characters would be Assist Trophies at best, but geez! Sounds like you hate everybody. Oh, and the very first Metal Gear was on the NES, I do believe. One of the requirements for 3rd-party characters was that they had to be on a Nintendo console at some point.
kentona
I am tired of Earth. These people. I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives.
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Why don't people ever post in Top 10 topics? I made one about new characters SSB recently... :'(
Reply to halibabica:
I'm on the same page as you for the whole Paper Mario thing. I adore Paper Mario, and if Windwaker Link gets a spot, why not Paper Mario?

Reply to Dudesoft:
I'm way too un-Nintendo educated to know what Paperboy is, but it sounds like the same alley as Ballon Fighter? Or no?

Reply to Natook:
Don't be hatin. Ha, I just wanted to get my ideas out. And just cuz you don't like Pokemon doesn't mean that there aren't thousands of younger fans who adore characters like Jigglypuff or Charizad or whatever. And Snake definately was a part of the original NES and SNES clan, being in the original Metal Gear and such. Sure Nintendo didn't have rights to his character entirely, but he got his start MOSTLY from NES. You got me with the whole Sigma thing, I don't play a ton of Megaman but beat Megaman X for SNES. But anyways... my last reply is 'bout Megaman, how instead of equipping him with "permanent powers" or whatever, what if he had a copyish technique like Kirby (not a clone, just a similar move) in which he absorbed his enemy's ELEMENT and made it his gunpower? Ex. Bowser=Fire, Ice Climbers=Ice, Link=Boomerang Cutter, Peach=Pink rolling shield, idk, just trying to get somin out there.

Reply to kentona:
My bad. Haha, I'll check it out.
Heh, Yeah I sound awful mad when I type. I understand you were just tryin to get your ideas out ;D I also told you what I thought because you wanted me to. But yeah, sorry that I came off so angry.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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author=mantlecore77 link=topic=1432.msg22465#msg22465 date=1214838331
Reply to Dudesoft:
I'm way too un-Nintendo educated to know what Paperboy is, but it sounds like the same alley as Ballon Fighter? Or no?

It was a game about a paperboy, literally. You rode down a street avoiding dogs, fences, whatever, and delivered papers to houses.
I could see him as a SSB character, if they made him like a BMX kind of trick-rider. He has projectiles inately, what would be the trick is getting his bike to twist and spin for combo attacks. Heh heh heh. And there could be jumps in the level. Heh heh heh that'd be awesome.
author=kentona link=topic=1432.msg22463#msg22463 date=1214838010
Why don't people ever post in Top 10 topics? I made one about new characters SSB recently... :'(

This is different, though, because we're being asked what our idea of a full roster would be, not just the top 10 characters we'd want. (some people have more than 10, I'm certain)

Anyways, I don't know why, but a game that balances franchises and licenses is really appealing to me. New characters are nice, but most of the "new" characters we got in the SB games are just lazy clones made of already existing characters. At least give them truly unique movesets, like Ike.

That said:

01. Mario
02. Kirby
03. Donkey Kong
04. Link
05. Yoshi
06. Pikachu
07. Samus Aran
08. Fox
09. Captain Falcon
10. Ness
11. Ice Climbers
12. Ike
13. Pit
14. Wario
15. Pikmin & Olimar
16. Mr. Game & Watch

Guests and BONUS characters:
(Left to your imagination)

16's a good number, I think. Then, alternate characters can be accessed via color change (Mario -> Dr. Mario -> Luigi; Link -> Young Link -> Toon Link; etc.). This takes care of the people who, for instance, would complain if they couldn't play as Jigglypuff (Kirby alternate)
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