AMERICAN ELECTIONS '08

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WIP
I'm not comfortable with any idea that can't be expressed in the form of men's jewelry
11363
New RMN rule:

Anyone who does not vote is banned.
Starscream
Conquest is made from the ashes of one's enemies.
6110
author=WIP link=topic=1927.msg41837#msg41837 date=1225843960
New RMN rule:

Anyone who does not vote for Obama is banned.

Fixed.
LouisCyphre
can't make a bad game if you don't finish any games
4523
if everyone writes in androo jaxon his spirit will guide us forever and ev
Also don't ban me I can't vote yet, too young




go ralph nader go
I'm banned too ... I don't know how to vote lawlsss
Voted for Barr. A wasted vote, but at least I didn't vote for one of the others -- shouldn't matter, though -- McCain should win Texas, and he'd be my candidate of choice otherwise. Obama's Socialism scares me a bit... I bet we'll have the highest voter turnout ever with this election...

Does anyone know of a site where I could go to get up-to-the-minute accurate statements about the polls and who's winning? Unfortunately, I don't have an antenna for my HDTV, so I'm out of luck on knowing what's going on.
Obama's Socialism

If I hear this one more time I'm going to punch someone in the face. Do you even know what socialism is?
LouisCyphre
can't make a bad game if you don't finish any games
4523
Thanks, Chaos.

And Feldschlacht,

Yes, I do. No, he's not completely socialist -- but he swings very far to the left. Much further than I care for. I don't agree with Obama's policies on wealth-distribution, government health care, and so forth. Flat tax would be most fair, in my opinion, since jumping from one tax-bracket to another wouldn't cause you to lose a significant chunk of change (i.e. the removal of said tax-brackets).

I agree more with smaller government, letting some corporations fall on their face and die so that we don't bail out people who made poor investments, and a flat tax. We desperately need insurance reform so that insurance agencies can't be stupid about honoring things -- and in the meanwhile, allow fraud to go on fine, since someone knows how to abuse the system.

In any case, let's hope America's future is bright and some topics get solved, regardless of the candidate who wins!
WIP
I'm not comfortable with any idea that can't be expressed in the form of men's jewelry
11363
lol socialism
Just in case I'm getting this wrong, can someone tell me how Obama's policies aren't socialistic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly,

Seriously, I'd like to know what I have wrong, so maybe I understand other views better.
Thanks, Chaos.

And Feldschlacht,

Yes, I do. No, he's not completely socialist -- but he swings very far to the left. Much further than I care for. I don't agree with Obama's policies on wealth-distribution, government health care, and so forth. Flat tax would be most fair, in my opinion, since jumping from one tax-bracket to another wouldn't cause you to lose a significant chunk of change (i.e. the removal of said tax-brackets).


Look, dawg. Obama isn't a Socialist. He isn't anything close to a socialist. Hell, even fucking socialists say he isn't socialist. At most he's like left middle, and because America has the far right stick shoved so far up it's ass for almost a decade, people think that anything that isn't STRICTLY CONSERVATIVE/REPUBLICAN is either ultraliberal or socialist. Keep in mind that not only Obama's policies are more reminiscent of many countries in Europe (which are NOT socialist), but at lot of it is the same things that Clinton did.
LouisCyphre
can't make a bad game if you don't finish any games
4523
author=TooManyToasters link=topic=1927.msg41859#msg41859 date=1225850229
VOTE HOLBERT '08

Fixed.

Starscream
Conquest is made from the ashes of one's enemies.
6110
Every single election year, Republicans call Democrats socialist or Marxists. Terin, you misunderstand Obama's position. Socialism calls for the government owning the means of production, while Obama just wants capitalism to work a little fairer. What's wrong with that?
Socialism is a broad term that involves the government taking involvement in the economy. However, business and stuff can start up. Communism itself is an extreme brand of socialism, which the government has total control over the economy. (Thus everyone gets paid the same, everyone is equal, and government pays for almost everything for you. Capitalism = when the government gives free public education, but you have to pay for everything else.) Socialism is generally viewed as a middle ground or transition between communism and capitalism.

EDIT: Holbert has asserted that there are problems with this post. which there are so yeah ignore it