FINAL FANTASY MAFIA (GAME OVER)
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author=Ratty524
Wait, what exactly is the "jester" role besides just being a distraction? Are they common in Mafia games?
a role that wins by being lynched
So basically everyone but that one person loses? Why are you even risking a vote on them, then? To "serve as evidence as to why jesters should not be used" is rediculous, it'll still end the game early.
author=InfectionFiles
I gotta ask, do y'all think LockeZ would go for optimal play? as in optimal scum team? I can see him doing that.
if it's random then great, but I dont put it past LockeZ to want a strong opposition.
anyways
#lynch Ratty524 because he's a rat
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author=pianotmRatty524If you kill the jester, s/he wins. Everybody else loses.
Wait, what exactly is the "jester" role besides just being a distraction? Are they common in Mafia games?
Welp that answers my question.
Totally not the only thing that might be going on here. Refer to the video I posted to the previous page.
there are jester variants that don't end the game. they just win and leave. if there is one in this setup then I would like for it to end asap regardless.
I feel strongly enough about that bad infectionfiles post to lynch him instead though.
I feel strongly enough about that bad infectionfiles post to lynch him instead though.
Firstly:
Yes, Blob, that's why I was saying to lynch the people with the scummiest-sounding skills/items. Because they're more likely to be scrub-based.
Secondly, I'm fine with taking that chance that Kloe is the Jester. Let's just lynch her and get that issue out of the way. Either way it'll be an interesting game:
- she's town and she gets wrecked and gives us information.
- she's jester and the shortest game in the history of mafia occurs. Record breaking 4 lyfe!
- she's mafia and we get mucho XPs.
If she is Jester then we just roll with it, I say.
#lynch Kloe
author=Blobofgoo
May I remind people that items were picked before roles were assigned.
author=LockeZ
The main gimmick of this game is that the names, but not the effects, of everyone's starting skills and starting items are listed publicly.
Yes, Blob, that's why I was saying to lynch the people with the scummiest-sounding skills/items. Because they're more likely to be scrub-based.
Secondly, I'm fine with taking that chance that Kloe is the Jester. Let's just lynch her and get that issue out of the way. Either way it'll be an interesting game:
- she's town and she gets wrecked and gives us information.
- she's jester and the shortest game in the history of mafia occurs. Record breaking 4 lyfe!
- she's mafia and we get mucho XPs.
If she is Jester then we just roll with it, I say.
#lynch Kloe
author=Liberty
Firstly:author=Blobofgoo
May I remind people that items were picked before roles were assigned.author=LockeZ
The main gimmick of this game is that the names, but not the effects, of everyone's starting skills and starting items are listed publicly.
Yes, Blob, that's why I was saying to lynch the people with the scummiest-sounding skills/items. Because they're more likely to be scrub-based.
this makes no sense to me. does it make sense to anyone.
I don't know why anyone here fancies the idea of having the "shortest game in history" or crap like that just for it's novelty.
Meanwhile we have a questionable post by IF that's just skirting by. Like, how the hell are you even concerned about how LockeZ arranged his scum team, IF?
Meanwhile we have a questionable post by IF that's just skirting by. Like, how the hell are you even concerned about how LockeZ arranged his scum team, IF?
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKauthor=Libertythis makes no sense to me. does it make sense to anyone.
Firstly:author=Blobofgoo
May I remind people that items were picked before roles were assigned.author=LockeZ
The main gimmick of this game is that the names, but not the effects, of everyone's starting skills and starting items are listed publicly.
Yes, Blob, that's why I was saying to lynch the people with the scummiest-sounding skills/items. Because they're more likely to be scrub-based.
Because obviously powers are going to be based on the items and skills we picked, so going for the more scummy-sounding skills/items are more likely to net us a negative power.
It's pretty self-explanatory.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKLibertythis makes no sense to me. does it make sense to anyone.[/quote
Yes, Blob, that's why I was saying to lynch the people with the scummiest-sounding skills/items. Because they're more likely to be scrub-based.
We got our skills and abilities before the game was started. They both know that. She's just trying to meta the shit out of everyone.
author=pianotmCAVE_DOG_IS_BACKWe got our skills and abilities before the game was started. They both know that. She's just trying to meta the shit out of everyone.Libertythis makes no sense to me. does it make sense to anyone.
Yes, Blob, that's why I was saying to lynch the people with the scummiest-sounding skills/items. Because they're more likely to be scrub-based.
@Liberty If it was that obvious it'd suck because there'd be nothing preventing scum from doing the same thing back and murdering anyone with a seer/doctor sounding power.
@Cave I've mostly given up following Liberty's mafialogic, but there's some merit in looking for anti-town *effects* and those linking those up to items/skills. It's not something I think we should be doing immediately at any rate.
@Ratty Jesters that immediately end the game suck because they're such a binary thing. Voting to kill them immediately should at least start encouraging hosts to not add them, unless they want to see their games end immediately.
@Cave I've mostly given up following Liberty's mafialogic, but there's some merit in looking for anti-town *effects* and those linking those up to items/skills. It's not something I think we should be doing immediately at any rate.
@Ratty Jesters that immediately end the game suck because they're such a binary thing. Voting to kill them immediately should at least start encouraging hosts to not add them, unless they want to see their games end immediately.
author=Libertyauthor=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKBecause obviously powers are going to be based on the items and skills we picked, so going for the more scummy-sounding skills/items are more likely to net us a negative power.author=Libertythis makes no sense to me. does it make sense to anyone.
Firstly:author=Blobofgoo
May I remind people that items were picked before roles were assigned.author=LockeZ
The main gimmick of this game is that the names, but not the effects, of everyone's starting skills and starting items are listed publicly.
Yes, Blob, that's why I was saying to lynch the people with the scummiest-sounding skills/items. Because they're more likely to be scrub-based.
It's pretty self-explanatory.
It doesn't make sense because items were picked BEFORE people were assigned roles. I can't speak for everyone else, but the item I got was the one I asked for, so I'm assuming that everyone got what they asked for. How can you make a conscious decision on your item of choice without knowing what role you are going to play to begin with?
author=Libertyauthor=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKBecause obviously powers are going to be based on the items and skills we picked, so going for the more scummy-sounding skills/items are more likely to net us a negative power.author=Libertythis makes no sense to me. does it make sense to anyone.
Firstly:author=Blobofgoo
May I remind people that items were picked before roles were assigned.author=LockeZ
The main gimmick of this game is that the names, but not the effects, of everyone's starting skills and starting items are listed publicly.
Yes, Blob, that's why I was saying to lynch the people with the scummiest-sounding skills/items. Because they're more likely to be scrub-based.
It's pretty self-explanatory.
do you actually think that lockez would obviously telegraph several peoples roles in the op (kloe has heal! she must be the doctor! liberty has protect! she must be the bodyguard! xoe has rend! he must be the juggernaut! ratty has hide! he must be the hider!) or can I just add you to the scumlist
And? So? How does that change anything at all? Like, seriously, explain how that changes the fact that LockeZ built roles and skills around the items and skills present in the game again?
That's what I'd have done. It makes sense.
That's what I'd have done. It makes sense.
author=psy_wombats
@Liberty If it was that obvious it'd suck because there'd be nothing preventing scum from doing the same thing back and murdering anyone with a seer/doctor sounding power.
@Cave I've mostly given up following Liberty's mafialogic, but there's some merit in looking for anti-town *effects* and those linking those up to items/skills. It's not something I think we should be doing immediately at any rate.
That would be where the exp and levels with new skills come into play, giving town a fair chance at getting skills that are going to help with that issue.
Why not first day? It's exactly as you guys always push "Get rid of someone to see the effects blah blah" so let's make use of this by getting rid of someone to see how their skills and abilities match up (and see if we get to see that shit when they're lynched or not).
author=Liberty
And? So? How does that change anything at all? Like, seriously, explain how that changes the fact that LockeZ built roles and skills around the items and skills present in the game again?
That's what I'd have done. It makes sense.
That's not what you are arguing. You are arguing that somehow the items dished out are connected to who's scum and who isn't, when again, these items were pre-selected by players who had NO IDEA what role they were going to play. A player with a "scummy-sounding" item is just as likely to be town as they are to be scum.
That doesn't mean that LockeZ didn't make those who took scummier sounding items scum. What you're arguing is that because we chose our items means that we'd know the roles that were assigned with them when, hey, guess what? We wouldn't. We don't know when LockeZ made up their effects or not - he could have just started with a list of funny items then added the effects after he doled out roles. We don't know, but I'd rather take someone out of play who seems to have an item that seems scummy than someone who seems to have something beneficial.