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Closeauthor=harmonicWhen you run around accusing the place of being a 'liberal echo chamber' and that people who disagree with you are only doing so to 'virtue signal', is it any wonder people target you. Because truthfully, you're nothing more than a boring stereotype of the right. If you just want to discuss politics then stop defaulting to the same tired old conservative ideologies and actually engage people in debate.
Any Republican is an easy target in a liberal echo chamber. By the way, how does it feel knowing you only go after "easy targets"? Knowing full well you'll have lots of other people backing you up and little to no people backing up the other guy? Makes you feel like a big man huh? :)
The Taiwan thing is much ado about nothing. The first of 100,000 instances of Trump's every move being blown out of proportion. This will happen every day for the next 4/8 years, no matter how well he performs.
This is too rich, have you forgotten the past 8 years? Or has the muslim, marxist, fake-american-totally-kenyan-show-me-the-birth-certificate, socialist, dictator, always-on-holiday, unconstitutional Zerobama wiped it from your memory at one of his FEMA concentration camps staffed by his Obamacare death council in order so that he can bus in illegal immigrants to rig the election.
author=InfectionFilesUh.. Ok? Do you have a point, or is this utterly vapid statement intended to mean something?
RMN is liberal though. That's become abundantly clear.
author=ESBYauthor=harmonicWhen you run around accusing the place of being a 'liberal echo chamber' and that people who disagree with you are only doing so to 'virtue signal', is it any wonder people target you. Because truthfully, you're nothing more than a boring stereotype of the right. If you just want to discuss politics then stop defaulting to the same tired old conservative ideologies and actually engage people in debate.
Any Republican is an easy target in a liberal echo chamber. By the way, how does it feel knowing you only go after "easy targets"? Knowing full well you'll have lots of other people backing you up and little to no people backing up the other guy? Makes you feel like a big man huh? :)
The Taiwan thing is much ado about nothing. The first of 100,000 instances of Trump's every move being blown out of proportion. This will happen every day for the next 4/8 years, no matter how well he performs.
This is too rich, have you forgotten the past 8 years? Or has the muslim, marxist, fake-american-totally-kenyan-show-me-the-birth-certificate, socialist, dictator, always-on-holiday, unconstitutional Zerobama wiped it from your memory at one of his FEMA concentration camps staffed by his Obamacare death council in order so that he can bus in illegal immigrants to rig the election.
This doesn't sound at all like a reasonable post. You're just venting and ranting. Doesn't really warrant a real response, sorry.
For the record, that post you quoted from me to Pianotm was 99% joking/in good fun. And I'm pretty sure he received it that way.
A post mocking the beliefs of right wing crazy people, including the president elect, doesn't sound reasonable? Who'd a thunk it?
My point was that the people whining that the left is going to blow everything regarding Trump out of proportion is rich considering these are the same people that were happy enough to sit through 8 years of the same, if not worse, behavior towards Obama.
That particular post may have been a joke but you've expressed that sentiment several times now, it's clear it's something you legitimately believe.
My point was that the people whining that the left is going to blow everything regarding Trump out of proportion is rich considering these are the same people that were happy enough to sit through 8 years of the same, if not worse, behavior towards Obama.
That particular post may have been a joke but you've expressed that sentiment several times now, it's clear it's something you legitimately believe.
Yeah, but y'all are "supposed" to be better than that.
If you wanna lower yourself to ignorant rednecks then cool. But the outrage to trump compared to Obama is way different.
If you wanna lower yourself to ignorant rednecks then cool. But the outrage to trump compared to Obama is way different.
author=InfectionFiles
Yeah, but y'all are "supposed" to be better than that.
I know you're talking about RMN, but you do realize that you are speaking about, in general, the human race.
If you wanna lower yourself to ignorant rednecks then cool. But the outrage to trump compared to Obama is way different.
Right, people only compared his wife to a gorilla and were burning effigies of him, calling him a traitor, and congress basically stonewalled and blocked everything he tried to do for 8 years straight because they didn't like that a black man had made it to office.
author=ESBY
A post mocking the beliefs of right wing crazy people, including the president elect, doesn't sound reasonable? Who'd a thunk it?
My point was that the people whining that the left is going to blow everything regarding Trump out of proportion is rich considering these are the same people that were happy enough to sit through 8 years of the same, if not worse, behavior towards Obama.
That particular post may have been a joke but you've expressed that sentiment several times now, it's clear it's something you legitimately believe.
Everybody knows the president is a position which deserves the utmost respect even if you disagree with their positions (unless it's a kenyan socialist-nazi superislamist b. HUSSEIN obama)!
Oh yeah, Scott Pruitt will be named as head of the EPA. I'd guess Trump adores Beijing, they have the yuuuugest smog and thickest water!
Also surprising absolutely nobody there's already a move to overturn Roe vs Wade even before the SCOTUS lines have been changed. It's survived Scalia on 5-4 at least (I think Kennedy was the 5th). Still hoping Breyer and Ginsburg hold on long enough for a power shift in the Senate/White House.
e: also assuming the court doesn't get packed, I dunno about the specifics of how/if that would go down. I don't think Roberts would be pleased but I don't know what he could do about it.
author=harmonicauthor=SolitayreSo you think he is outright lying when he said he's stepping away from his business, and not taking a salary?
If this is honestly what you think then God are you in for a shock.
So, update on this.
Donald Trump currently intends to keep a personal stake in his businesses and may not divest.
Donald Trump will remain an executive producer on Celebrity Apprentice, meaning he has a financial stake in a show owned by a company that also owns a major news organization.
Trump claims to have sold all stocks in June but has offered no proof. Journalist Kurt Eichenwald claims Trump has lied about this before.
Interesting. I actually don't even the tiniest of shits when it comes to these particular issues, but it seems the incredibly non-biased (heh) CNN and NYT seems to think he's up to no good.
Guess we'll see! I'm at the edge of my seat
Guess we'll see! I'm at the edge of my seat
Sated
Or maybe it was because a majority of Congressmen didn't agree with his politics, like we know they don't.
Of course they don't, but how does that give them the right to deliberately stall a nation and crash an economy? How is that acceptable behavior. Congressmen vote for legislation they don't like all the time. For congressmen like Harry Reid to actually come out and say that they're doing what they can to completely freeze Obama's administration and then for people to say, "it's just because they disagreed with his legislation," is willfully and deliberately ignorant.
Occam's razor doesn't apply to the situation in the slightest.
Since everyone told me I was paranoid and defensive for suggesting, perhaps, Democrats nagging and browbeating middle America without pause for 8 years MAAAAY have helped piss people off enough to vote for Trump...
Does this woman not represent how libs really feel?
Does this woman not represent how libs really feel?
As is so often the case, I feel like you're not arguing with us, but with some horrifying liberal boogeyman that only you can see. Nobody in this thread at any point was screaming 'RACISSSSST" until they were blue in the face. The 'SJWs' that you're taking swipes at in every other post aren't here. Nobody has called you a sexist bigot 72 times before breakfast. Who are you even talking to when you make these posts?
She's sad and angry... It happens. >.< I don't think calling her emotional backlash representative of liberals is fair to her or liberals in general.
Similar things happened on the other side when Obama was elected and I would never in a million years hold it against them. Elections are a big deal.
Similar things happened on the other side when Obama was elected and I would never in a million years hold it against them. Elections are a big deal.
author=Solitayre
As is so often the case, I feel like you're not arguing with us, but with some horrifying liberal boogeyman that only you can see. Nobody in this thread at any point was screaming 'RACISSSSST" until they were blue in the face. The 'SJWs' that you're taking swipes at in every other post aren't here. Nobody has called you a sexist bigot 72 times before breakfast. Who are you even talking to when you make these posts?
Easy there. I did hear that disagreeing with Obama makes you racist.
Also, I asked. Asked if this is how libs really feel. Open ended question.
I suppose I should clarify - one needn't be a screaming purple haired mega victim to sew the seeds of discord and resentment. There is also the subversive form of leftist identity politics, which relies on new, alternative definitions of racism, sexism, etc, a definition that depends on who (((they))) have agreed is more privileged than whom, rather than simple bigotry of any kind. This ends up scapegoating groups of people based on their victim hierarchy, with white hetero christian men at the apex of the "victimizer" class. It's really a shame things have gone this direction, when it used to be about socio-economic class, rather than race/gender/etc. Now, we are told "at least you're white, male, etc" no matter what happens to you, no matter how much undeserved scapegoating is piled upon this group of people which actually makes up about 15% of the population of the US, and a very small percentage of the world population. I know what's coming... privilege or something. I am not complaining about my personal situation. It is an observation of how people behave, who people blame, and how it's not at all constructive to scapegoat people based on factors they cannot change.
author=Solitayre
Guys I already said once that this thread isn't for picking fights with harmonic.
when i find the legions of 1000000000 ghost humanoids he talks about in each post, rest assured, i WILL let you know who they are
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKauthor=Solitayrewhen i find the legions of 1000000000 ghost humanoids he talks about in each post, rest assured, i WILL let you know who they are
Guys I already said once that this thread isn't for picking fights with harmonic.
Completely dismissing reality, and my argument in one swipe. It's not even "my" argument, it's the observation of a huge number of Americans, whom you might call middle America rednecks or some shit.
In regards to picking fights with me, are you actually claiming no one has done that? Your avatar must be laughing at the absurdity of that.
In regards to the race thing, let me tell you two exact stories that have happened to me. Fresh in my mind.
1) Conversation with liberal. In this conversation, which involved the subject of miscegenation, this delightful person first teased, the came out explicitly, saying that my children (half white, half asian) will be hated by Asians and mocked by Whites. That they will never fit in either culture, and that I will be looked at like a creepy mail-order bride pedophile if I'm walking around town with my daughter. In this liberal's words, "people will think she's your much younger asian lover." Yeah. So, if I wasn't who I am, this liberal woman wouldn't have spouted off such filth. Some privilege.
2) Conversation with racial minority liberal. It was about victims and privilege, and the conclusion after what was a long and, I thought, cordial debate, his conclusion was that I owe at birth because I'm white male. No one else owes. That in order to be a good person, I have the privilege of having higher expectations than others, and I owe the world more than others. Here's the kicker - I grew up lower class with a single mother scraping by on meager child support payments. SOME PRIVILEGE.
Am I supposed to think these people are tolerant and inclusive as they claim to be? That they have my interests as a human being at heart? Sounds more like they wish I'd just shut up and pay my taxes, accept their insults, at best.
