DOES ANYONE REMEMBER RPGRPGREVOLUTION? (REMEMBERING RRR)

author=Ratty524
Also idk how you are going to really get a "neutral" opinion on this because the RM community as a whole is pretty much discourse after discourse. :P

Thanks Ratty ❤! This is is the type of response I was looking for actually - just something that's very informative. If you have anymore stories, please share them with us! I'm very eager to hear more, I feel like I missed a lot over there on RRR.

author=Darken
Again, I said I'm sure there was drama (every forum has it), but it just didn't seem to concern the common newbie. More of the mindset of like: you post your game and you don't get some elitist person complaining about RTP anime games out of nowhere due to some power struggle over the site direction. There just didn't seem to be any standards or anything particular of how you go about posting a 20 paragraph story idea for your game in the "Design" forum, and that's what it came off to me.

author=Ratty524
To be fair, though, coming to RMN was the first time I really had to deal with any serious, in-depth critique games and I didn't really get that from RRR.

Yeah! There's no wrong answers here - I share this impression too actually ❤. I followed Cynon and the dude who made Origin (the metaphysical one) from Gamingw over to RRR and a lot of what you guys have said here, rings true:

RRR supported RM2k3, but it had more of a heavy focus on XP, VX and the official makers at the time - like "Name73" was a game about a commercialist, post-apocalyptic future, that was kind of panned on gamingw - but once brought over to RRR, it was free of the RTP criticism and the power struggle over site direction that plagued gamingw - which was cool.

RRR gave people a chance to really talk about their games at length, often in very incredibly descriptive detail: but on the flipside of this, no one really wanted to provide any sort constructive criticism towards these games on RRR - which Name73 really needed, severely in order to improve. - like, It's not that people didn't want to give feedback, but they sort of lacked the experience to do so, like you would regularly see on gamingw (I may be wrong about this though, so feel free to correct me.)

But, I remember after having participated in RPG's ALEX IS: A Two Day Collabotive Game game: (I have this bookmarked somewhere) - there was this wide range of feedback, from Liberty, kaempfer, Nessiah and Cardinal Ximnez. etc

Like, it'd be positive, it'd be negative, it'd be neutral. But this was the sort of well rounded feedback that you see on something like on Newgrounds and that you would need in order to genuinely improve your games.

Like, I'll be honest, this is what lead me traveling back and forth between GamingW and RRR for awhile before Nessiah, Liberty and the rest of the crew on the Game&Demo thread, finally decided to migrate to RMN.
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…Like, just to go slightly off topic here - part of the reason why I'm doing these (Remembering Community) threads, is not only to gather information on communities that have passed, but also on how RMN has persisted for 10 years. - like you guys may not realize it, but many people who are getting into rpgmaker for the first time now, they look up to RMN, they do - they have no choice, cause RMN is one of the first and many results that comes up on google now.

And whether you like it or not, as some people have echoed in previous threads, we are making history now and we have to continue, to be very careful in how we treat each other here and how we manage this site amongst ourselves, because RMN isn't exempt from the many problems that plagued the other these sites I've mentioned - many developers have turned away from RMN and many games no longer exist because of what we've done here in the past.

A lot of people like to think that RMN is just another "internet community" - that if you don't like it here or don't have a "tough enough skin", you can always just leave.

But this simply is not true anymore, things are quickly changing - what we say and what we do here and how we treat other people here on RMN matters, it always has and often has long and unforeseen consequences we may not be entirely aware of. You may not see it, but there are many changes happening outside of RMN as well and I really want you guys to at least be made aware of this.

...I'm just saying, if these past 10 years has taught me anything, it's that nothing is ever set in stone, anything can happen - but this is another topic for another time.

If you guys have any other stories you'd like to share on RRR, please share them, I look forward to them immensely - one of the many things I wish I had gotten a chance to play was one of earlier RanMaster's Demo he showed on youtube:



(It may seem dated now to many, compared to what has come out since then,
but for a rpgmaker demo made in 2008, I still think the attention to detail found in this demo, is really impressive.)

author=dethmetal
The thing that confused me the most about MISTERBIGT is that he used the program for many, many years and produced a great number of games but somehow his mapping never improved at all.

This is actually a really good question and I kind of agree with Tuomo_L:

I think what a lot of people don’t realize is that, when you’re making an rpgmaker game, you’re actually making 3 games in one: a battle system, a field map/charasets/chipsets and whatever happens to be in-between, like mini games, dialogue cutscenes/story etc, whatever ties it all together.

A lot of makers for years have been stumbling to put all three together, with varying degrees of success. So often you get games like Hero’s Realm, Phantom Legacy or The Way, traditional rpgs, made in rpgmaker that are well rounded but are often incredibly short experiences.

But I also think this is why games like yume nikki and such have risen to prominence within the western rpgmaker community: because they purposely eliminate one of these systems in order to focus on the other two more stronger. Which is exploration and story telling.

So MisterBigT may have not been great in mapping back then, but like many makers his focus was probably on other fields – probably the story cutscene, part and I kind of have to commend him for that. The Doom series has its fans.

I wish this thread was more successful. Maybe I wasn't familiar enough with RpgRpgRevolution. I remember visiting RRR a lot during GamingW's site transition into saltw. I just wish I was able to cover more ground here. I guess the demise thread someone posted back in 2014 will have to do. I was just hoping to recapture or talk about the issues that went on there, but I guess what we already have here on RMN will have to be enough.

I know not every site is going to end amicably, but maybe that was part of RRR's history. I was just hoping for more peeps to waltz in like in the GGZ thread. It's just really cool to hear the stories. It gives us a chance to see what others couldn't.