[POLL] GENRE, FORMAT, AND YOUR PREFERENCES

Poll

Do you prefer science fiction or fantasy media when reading, when watching, when playing, and when creating? Whatever your preferences are, let me know why you think that is. - Results

I prefer to read (books, comics, manga) science fiction over fantasy.
2
22%
I prefer to read (books, comics, manga) fantasy over science fiction.
1
11%
I prefer to watch (TV, movies) science fiction over fantasy.
0
0%
I prefer to watch (TV, movies) fantasy over science fiction.
0
0%
I prefer to play science fiction video games over fantasy ones.
0
0%
I prefer to play fantasy video games over science fiction ones.
5
55%
I prefer to CREATE scifi games/stories, and here's why:
0
0%
I prfer to CREATE fantasy games/stories, and here's why:
1
11%

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Often I find myself curious about what people on RMN think about something so I want to start a topic or poll, but it seems like just a hair under a dozen people actually log on here even daily, and out of that small pool not all of them are going to respond to my poll. I think this is why sometimes I end up oversharing my own opinions or giving up on a thread prematurely as "dead in the water".

Anyway, my question is pretty simple: do you prefer science fiction or fantasy media when reading, when watching, and when playing? Whatever your preferences are, let me know why you think that is. Um, hopefully you can choose as many as are applicable (as long as they don't conflict)? That's what I'm going for but idk how RMN polls work.
Sooz
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Not going with the poll because it's radio button and not ticky box, but I generally prefer fantasy over scifi. Generally, scifi seems to be into space travel, which I'm not terribly interested in for multiple reasons, and exploring technology for its own sake, which is also super boring to me.

The question of definition is an important one, though: do you mean "scifi" as in "speculative fiction based in science (mostly astrophysics and engineering)," or "techy-flavored fiction (including science fantasy like Star Wars)"? I really, really liked the movie "Annihilation," for instance- is that science fiction, because it's got a theme of evolution and mutation and science, even though it says nothing especially speculative, has more fantastic elements than scientific ones, and is more about grief and trauma than anything else?

Like, ultimately my preferences tend to lie more in "Does this story have interesting characterization and/or fun hijinks" than whether it's dressed up in dragons or diodes, but I feel like this discussion is best served if we define our terms up front.

Also in terms of games, a lot of the really popular franchises have both scifi (or at least sci fantasy) AND fantasy elements, so the argument there is moot :V

ETA Also also it bothers me ten times more when scifi gets its science wrong than when fantasy does. :V
AtiyaTheSeeker
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It's a rough choice, but in the end I picked playing fantasy games over sci-fi. I don't read often and rarely watch anything beyond YouTube these days, but I do love fantasy over most sci-fi. Things like Star Wars and Fallout are franchises I enjoy that fall more in line with sci-fi than fantasy; while I do lean toward those a bit more these days I still have a deep love for the fantasy genre and its various forms.
That poll is terrible for it being so many categories with only one option to tick.

I read fantasy over sci-fi. I would watch it too, but TV is .. eh. I prefer manga over anime too if I can help it. Some are great/even better as anime tho.
I would also create fantasy over sci-fi. Ofc, there are good ones. Hi Texhnolyze. It's still not my favorite genre (AND OMG MECHA, GO AWAY FAR FAR FAR FAR AWAY PLEASE STOP!)

In short: I absolutely can't stand and detest sci-fi. Most good ones were dystopian, or just threw any sense overboard. There was one light novel that I liked: and SURPRISE! It mixed fantasy with sci-fi. There you go. Some manga are good too, but they are less standard than most, so that + great quality is what makes em good, not just the fact it's sci-fi. Spaceballs was pretty neat tho, back in the day. I also liked the Traumschiff Surprise one. (probably because they don't take themselves so seriously).

Sci-fi gets science wrong just as much as anything else, but pretends it makes sense and is totally cool. Worse, it doesn't just bend rules (which is fine), but it usually doesn't take it to its final consequences - it's like Harry Potter magic vs. Avatar magic. I find one of them silly. (usually) AKA, rules are invented to justify machines and special effects, rather than implementing rules and seeing what that would mean for a system and its inhabitants.
Storytelling also usually focuses on the same stuff other stories do, except having a tiny group of profound impact makes even less sense when there's billions of people out there fighting with you. (also yeah, I never watched all the Star Wars, I started on the first one, got like half-way and gave up. It's dull to me. I am happy for all those who enjoy it. Go for it.)
Also, I just don't like the aesthetic of cold dead steel all that much if it's all we get. It's a bit drab. Sure, you can make it white n fancy too, or go the weird planet route, but it's often unexplored. Robots is cool and all too, but a Korean comic about a robot having true love and a boy searching for a way to restore its core in a normal sci-fi society has moved me more than any sci-fi thing I watched. I am more of a holistic person anyway.

Reasons why I like fantasy: creativity (or the potential for, my god all those tropes), colorfulness, monsters, monsters that are also friendly. Ultimately, fantasy feels comfortable and natural to me. Just like home.
I like monsters and dragons and creatures, and horns, and scales and whatnot. And guess what? Monsters galore in fantasy! It also doesn't take itself too seriously, but usually does try to have world-impacting rules and changes in place, be that cultural or otherwise, and usually sticks with them. They are conveniently chosen as well, ofc, but usually kept for the entire thing. It's not like I get a kick out of all of the things, but I don't mind them, either. I do like nature tho. Guess what's in fantasy more. I also prefer small-scale stories .. and so forth.

As for why I create fantasy? Same as above. I feel it gives the best sense of freedom as well. Also it's fun. I like fun. Fun is good.
I'd torture myself trying to come up with a sci-fi setting that's high on the science part. I like cyberpunk tho for stuff I play, as do I enjoy fantasy element mixtures.

(also uh, yeah. fantasy games are cool. Not all of em, but fantasy > sci-fi any day in any form for me, for general preference, and if they are roughly the same 'goodness'. Not much into FF tho.)
(and now to eat and prep for work.. WELP!)
I used to be heavily into fantasy as my main SF drug. But years and years of reading fantasy made it so that it all felt a bit samey after a while. I mean there's still good stuff out there but the fact that fantasy relies so heavily on epic fantasy. (book series and whatnot) While in science fiction there seems to be more short stories and more... ideas.

I guess traditionally fantasy is a conservative genre. While science fiction more often tries to go beyond that and really try to be more weird.

And then there's the fact that science fiction books tend to be more standalone than part two of a five part trilogy.

When it comes to movies I tend to really jump onto anything resembling hard science fiction because there's like a handful of those every year.

Other than that I tend to give a chance to nearly all SF-flavoured media. Because I'm an SF guy at heart rather than specifically fantasy or science fiction or supernatural horror.
Shoulda used strawpoll.me

I think I ultimately enjoy SciFi due to the combination of speculative science fiction and "adventure" science fiction. My recent favorite thing was binge watching Star Trek TNG on netflix every night, almost every night I'd essentially be visiting a different planet with a new atmosphere, new problems, and strange beings (aside from the occasional nightmare within the ship episode). Valerian the comic does a pretty good job at capturing this as well, where there's just a constant jumping to new locales with spacey transportation. Other than that I read a lot of Philip K Dick in my youth so I'm often into wild premises that you'd typically see in Twilight Zone or Outer Limits. I think Black Mirror is a little too closely contemporary for me though.

In regards to fantasy I need something original besides the tolkien-esque stuff. I guess I prefer stuff like Neverending Story, Dark Crystal or the Ivalice setting where there's more made up stuff and the fantasy elements are more surreal. Planescape is a DND tabletop setting that I much appreciate as an extreme even though I never particularly played the setting (just Torment). I also kind of like it when magic isn't something anyone can conjure up at will. Sometimes being this vague thing that greatly affects the world but can only be directly used in very specific circumstances. Dunno why but thems the rules in me-town.

Oh I really dislike political theatre stuff in either setting. I think I'm just not a huge fan of stuff like Game of Thrones or Battlestar Galactica where there's less adventure and just people talking/backstabbing in-front of themed backdrops. It can be good for the occasional dilemma in something like Star Trek, but not the overall theme of the show.
Sooz
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I find it interesting that people who like one side more tend to focus on the good stuff of that side and ignore the masses of derivative junk, while doing the opposite for the other side.

Fantasy: Tends to over rely on Tolkien (often via over relying on other properties that already over rely on Tolkien in an inbred line of lack of inspiration) and Campbell's Hero's Journey storyline.

Scifi: Tends to over rely on Asimov and machine porn. Probably some other stuff, I don't consume enough scifi to notice trends :V

The problem is the same in every genre: too many writers just knocking off stories and settings that already exist without adding anything really new or notable. That's easier to take if you like the stuff being knocked off enough to go "Eh, whatever," and/or ignore it while trawling for something new; otherwise, it just turns into an impossible wall of "Ugh, is ANY of this good?"

Also I feel like asking this question in a forum dedicated to JRPGs is sort of self-selecting for more fantasy fans. While most (especially these days!) have a melange of the genres, it's vastly more common to see a pure fantasy game than a pure or even mostly scifi game.
I may have focused on it, but I am well aware of their flaws. Make no mistake, I like one more, I am not saying one is better than the other.
In fact, it's precisely that that makes it stand out to me as my preference and it's that which I base my observation of myself on. I need actually good sci-fi to enjoy it whereas I have and do read various absolutely trashy fantasy stories. They are so bad that I would never recommend them to anyone and would happily bash them into oblivion in all their failings (if I were to talk about them, they are just that embarassingly bad), yet I still enjoy some if not a lot of them. That's what I'm talking about, and if that's not a preference, I don't know what is!

I can put up with the bad stuff in it more than with stuff in sci-fi (that, and I like some of the standard elements more than standard sci-fi elements). It's the same in how I struggle more with reading shoujo because of its tropes rather than reading shounen. Both have their tropes and can be absolutely mind-boggling stupid, I just find one easier to enjoy than the other.
(boy, it'd be nice if people got over Tolkien though, HAH!)

The biggest flaw for scifi for me is stuff like cyberpunk or dystopian stuff becoming an aesthetic or backdrop dressing without actually providing commentary aside from "yep things are bad." Big studios tend to overproduce and over-stuff that we associate with without the genre itself influencing the message or themes in the given media. Scifi hits the hardest for me because I feel that stuff like Bladerunner is the goto whenever a concept artist needs a rainy city to take from. When really Bladerunner was put out there as commentary or an outlook for its time. A glimpse of ideas to explore and think about past watching the movie.

Not to say ~*Fantasy*~ can't be cynically appropriated but I'm more likely to accept it as backdrop or set dressing, but it also means I'm not as invested on whether or not the messaging or the soul of fantasy is being communicated.
Sooz
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Yeah, I think that's a good point: fantasy hasn't got the reputation of having a message or commentary (and Tolkien, in particular, rejected the idea of his work having a message) whereas that was part of the foundational works of scifi.

Which is not to say fantasy DOESN'T have a message*, but there's less expectation.

*In fact, you can get quite the can of worms if you really think about what a lot of fantasy ends up saying, just by dint of using really old tropes without thinking about them!
No Tolkien rejected the idea that his stories were allegories. That's not nearly the same as message.

As I said earlier fantasy is traditionally very conservative (or to put it in a more fun way "traditionally very traditional" :D) It's often about fighting against progress and change. Or I mean. It was. I don't think that kind of fantasy is overly popular these days apart from people reading classics.
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
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Even without the overt messaging of older fantasies, there's still quite a lot of fairly conservative thought in fantasy as a genre. To take just one example from RPGs, there's the whole "great man" idea, where a single person (or small group of people led by that person) can stop all of society's ills by punching the right bad guy.

Also the really weird idea of "all fantasy races have their own pigeonholes, except humans, who are uniquely variable."

Like they're not necessarily bad tropes on their own, but they make things really weird when people don't stop and think about what they say.
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