FAME & ANONYMITY IN THE RM COMMUNITY

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This is an "idle thoughts" piece, but it strikes me that we don't know anything about the most well known content creators in our community. I don't think we have any special right to know I just think it's kind of weird.

Demographics don't matter a lot to us because all are interactions are online and 90% of them surround videogames. So not knowing if a user's male, female, American or from New Zealand, Asian or Black, etcetera is the norm. (Now our queerness on the other hand seems to be the one piece of demographic information we have proudly on display.)

But if you look at creators like Yanfly & Aekashics, their stuff is used in a plurality, probably a majority, of all games developed with the RPG Maker engine. They have 100s of Patrons as they rightly deserve. And--and if I'm just being an idiot and missing like an extremely obvious "About Me" page or two, please do tell me--I have no idea who these people are. They basically prebuilt like half of the game I'm developing and I know nothing about them. I couldn't tell you what country YF lives in or what Aekashics' native language is. Hell, I've been using YF scripts since 2008 and I didn't know if YF was a he or a she until he fucking retired (just now), and I'm still not 100% sure I'm using the right pronoun. I get the impression that Aekashics is a guy but I wouldn't bet on it.

I realize that some of the elite among us (i.e. Archeia et al.) have access to these peoples' inner circles and know a lot more of their personal information, because they're friends. But to the general end users of the content they're making, they're essentially anonymous: no race, no nationality, always good English but non-native speakers, unknown native language, unclear gender. It's (to me, at least) a fascinating paradox. I wonder among other things about the decision these creators made to be largely anonymous and what factors informed that. Some of the most famous creators in our midst are also very anonymous.

I am 97% sure there are at least a few other examples of this exact phenomenon besides the two big ones I mentioned, I'm just too lazy to hunt them down right now.
Mirak
Stand back. Artist at work. I paint with enthusiasm if not with talent.
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I'm glad they can keep their anonimity I hope it remains that way forever. Nothing good comes from inviting assholes on the internet with a beef against the world to start shit with asset creators because they're from this or that place, because they're this or that, look like such and so.

How many times I've seen people truly suffer shit they didn't need to go through, all because some person with some kind of vendetta against them started smearing them for things outside their control?

If creators are interested in people knowing who they are, the information would be easily available to find because they would have provided it themselves. If finding that info is hard, chances are they prefer it that way. Time to respect those wishes! ;D
Considering the ill track record the RM community has with dealing with content creators, I think their anonimity is well warranted. I mean Yanfly already had a pretty hard time dealing with the community while being a literal floofball for the past 7 years. Now imagine if he had a face, a nationality and a public facebook profile lol.

On the other hand i'm super happy that so many of the G A A A A Y creators are out and proud, and so outspoken, because back when I started lurking around the RM community in 2007 it was nothing like this lmao.

There's a reason I've scrubbed all mention of my actual name off any accounts tied to my game deving. Not that I use other social media or forums much, but still.

Why? Because I've been harassed on other social media by fuckwits before and I'm just glad that I never tied my real name to that shit. Some of you know my first name, you all know my second name, and that's all I'm happy to let you know.

I know that yanfly doesn't want to engage with the community more than he does because even though there are good people who don't abuse peoples' boundaries as the norm, there are a lot of people who would (and have) harassed him on various places to help them with their issues with plugins and scripts (most of them things that have been explained a billion times in a million places).

It's the same with other 'big name' people - letting the horde in allows for problems to arise and an overflow of demanding whiny babies who are old enough to know better but think they're entitled to their attention.

This is why a lot of people just like to keep the two halves - personal and online persona - separate. If they need to just deplug, they can, and if they feel like talking to others, they cherry-pick those who don't make a big deal about them and who don't act like they're the second coming of christ or make a huge fuss when they turn up somewhere (it's always surprising to see how people react to these 'celebs' when they pop in to a discord to say hi or weigh in on something that someone said earlier or answer an easy question).


But yeah, I don't need to know more about them than they're willing to let me know and I feel that should be the norm. They're entitled to their privacy and I'm glad I'm not one of those people who need to know every single thing about a person. XD


Allowing people their anonymoty also allows for them to feel safer to express parts of themself they might not be able to in their real lives, like sexuality and gender identity, mental and emotional stability and the like. It can be for the worse, in the case of political and religious beliefs, but it can also be for the better, too.

Allowing that free space with no ties to their persona offline gives people a freedom to explore themselves and each other without having to wonder if the person they're talking x/y/z.

It can also help open the door for people who are afflicted with -isms and -obias to see others as real people before putting them in those shitty little boxes they like to use for their hatemongering.
author=Liberty
(it's always surprising to see how people react to these 'celebs' when they pop in to a discord to say hi or weigh in on something that someone said earlier or answer an easy question).

(this is me and my shaky legs whenever i see craze-kun or oshun-kun or raim-san btw. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)

the internet and how we decide to present ourselves to the world is such an interesting thing
Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
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hmm. though i'm not quite a titan anymore, i definitely have an old guard feel and am part of that ye olde inner circle. i mean, i was leveling in ffxiv this morning with nessy and raim (...and even continue to call archeia 'nessy' despite mostly her dropping the 'nessiah'...).



i guess i have less to add than i thought i did, so i suppose i'll just post this amusing anecdote about yanfly. thank you yanfly, for always IM'ing me about your cooking and helping me with my mandarin homework in college
it will always be nessy
This is interesting because of a lot of the "big name" people have just been, like, my online friend group for a pretty long time? I have become less directly involved with the RM community than when I was younger but even still I know a lot of these people pretty well. Nessy basically adopted me when I became a tester for Princess Princess and that group is so open and loving that it was very easy to get to know them.

Yanfly was kinda around me during that time but I never got to know him super well. I hope he's doing good now that he's retired!

@Jo The intense gayness of the RMN community is one of the big reasons I've made a concerted effort to keep rm in life. (that and not being around here for too long makes me homesick ;w;) All of the newer devs like frogge, punky, bart, uni, etc etc are so great and I'm glad to have become closer to a lot of them!
I started browsing message boards in 2001. Back then, it was pretty much unheard of to give away your "real life" identity. Most people didn't even feel comfortable revealing their first names. Obviously, social media has changed that, and that barrier between the internet and real life has broken down. Hell, even YouTube shows your real name now.

I guess I'm just very old-school and haven't broken out of that philosophy. Actually, my game-making life is unknown even to my friends. The only person who knows that I make games is my fiancee.

I don't avoid revealing my IRL self for any particular reason. Luckily, I don't have anything to hide. I just don't think it's necessary.
AtiyaTheSeeker
In all fairness, bird shrapnel isn't as deadly as wood shrapnel
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To be honest, part of my internet transparency worries me as far as dev stuff and some of my drawings, but especially my potential future as a writer. I've got my usual username attached to bits and pieces that might not be safe for work, and even then might squick even open-minded people. I don't pick fights but I sure as hell end them these days, and I would prefer not shoving more controversial or risque aspects of my beliefs and interests down other peoples' throats by now. That said, having less internet fights to be drawn into could help.

Luckily I don't have a real name attached to my various online works because fuck Twitter, and because I am still closeted insofar as my Facebook stuff. Even when I still used Twitter I went by my usual alias, containing my preferred first name. Really the only doxxable thing I hint at is the specific chunk of my country, sometimes my exact city.

Overall, even if not all of the stuff attributed to myself is safe for kids or a professional art portfolio, I've gotten over my shame long ago. Most of my works have mature themes in varying amounts anyway, many having more than my animal girls belting out four-letter words when under duress. Fame is something I could never handle, and I don't make stuff for monetary profit. Therefore, even if I don't go out of my way to hide my secrets, I feel I've got nothing to hide.

Even if I did get serious as a writer someday, plenty of artists have personal lives that aren't things to share with all audiences. George Carlin did some narrations for Thomas the Tank Engine, but his comedy routines are a bad idea for young kids to witness. Dr Seuss once drew porn. Jollyjack has plenty of risque stuff outside his DeviantArt. The list goes on.

But uh, do beware if you try to Google my username, m'kay? >_>
author=AtiyaTheSeeker
But uh, do beware if you try to Google my username, m'kay? >_>

I think you piqued the curiosity of everyone who just read your post.
It always throws me a little when I see someone refer to nessy as Archeia. I'm like "who da... oh right, nessy"


Fun fact - blame ocean for ringing me here. GW was falling and we'd not talked much but he was cool about my thinking he was a girl thing, and sent me a pm telling me about this place. I'd already poked around here previously but kinda shrugged at it and never signed up, but after that I decided, eh, why not? So I threw in and am still here and have had the pleasure of knowing so many great people just from being here. X3
author=dethmetal
I started browsing message boards in 2001. Back then, it was pretty much unheard of to give away your "real life" identity. Most people didn't even feel comfortable revealing their first names. Obviously, social media has changed that, and that barrier between the internet and real life has broken down. Hell, even YouTube shows your real name now.

I guess I'm just very old-school and haven't broken out of that philosophy. Actually, my game-making life is unknown even to my friends. The only person who knows that I make games is my fiancee.

I don't avoid revealing my IRL self for any particular reason. Luckily, I don't have anything to hide. I just don't think it's necessary.

This is the internet I grew up with too. And it's gonna be weird in about ten years when us Millenials are in their 40s and still using pseudonyms like DarkKnightCecil and everyone under 20 is using real names and profile pictures because they were told to.

My walls came down for a while when I was doing more to integrate my gamedev or otherwise "online" life with my personal life and I've found that once those walls are down, they're very hard to put back up. People still call me on a first name basis right on social media sites for everyone to see even when I ask them not to. So I'm kinda stuck now, but it could've been way worse.

Plus when you start meeting people through gamedev and your hobbies, things just end up becoming more personal whether you want them to or not, but it's also one of those things where I cherish the very real connections and friends I've made online. In that way, it's a small sacrifice.
Sgt M
Plus when you start meeting people through gamedev and your hobbies, things just end up becoming more personal whether you want them to or not, but it's also one of those things where I cherish the very real connections and friends I've made online. In that way, it's a small sacrifice.


That in particular is a Very Thing. I've never been too much about privacy (maybe because I always feel like I'll die tomorrow so being as self expository as possible is a way to make sure that if that happens at least someone heard my story) but after participating in so many awesome gamedev events in São Paulo and having met so many wonderful people and following eachother, my particular life got no distinction. Maybe it'll have again when Records in Blue gets headed to steam or kickstarter or something.

Well, the other thing is that I don't really have a life outside of gamedev. Other than, say, my family. 99% of my current friends are people I've connected to through gamedev -- initially online, but eventually irl and we've became (hopefully) very good friends. There's... no real way to make a distinction there, it's weird.

Well, it's just like the people behind Celeste and Towerfall whom I've had the pleasure to have a coffee with several times. They're many orders of magnitude more popular than even the most popular of my gamedev friends, but they're so ingrained in the brazilian gamedev community and are such friends with so many people that they're... kinda pretty public. IDK. They'd organize gamedev meets almost 10 years ago (I wasn't of age to go back then XD) and planted the seeds for many awesome things in the brazilian gamedev community. They don't really have a life out of gamedev like many of us do (with IDK, college, or a "serious" job etc) so that kind of dissolves

Uh idk. I guess this is kinda offtopic. But I'll always gush over them lol.

Well, a lot of this probably applies to Yanfly, too. But he set up a very wise way to have gamedev be such a big part of his life and yet not affect his private matters aka not having death threats over charging for plugins "lol".
author=Liberty
It always throws me a little when I see someone refer to nessy as Archeia. I'm like "who da... oh right, nessy"


Fun fact - blame ocean for ringing me here. GW was falling and we'd not talked much but he was cool about my thinking he was a girl thing, and sent me a pm telling me about this place. I'd already poked around here previously but kinda shrugged at it and never signed up, but after that I decided, eh, why not? So I threw in and am still here and have had the pleasure of knowing so many great people just from being here. X3

Craze was the one who sent me a PM on GW telling me to check out RMN.

So he is ultimately to blame for RMN
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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I really think the internet has proved beyond any doubt that anonymity is only ever a bad thing. I grew up being LockeZ and not Ben McAlpin on most websites, but it makes me happy any time a platform is set up so that with basically one click you can find out who everyone is. It 100% prevents any of the harassment that Mirak is talking about.

I've been around for 5+ years and I do exactly jack with anyone from RMN.

I literally have to pound on peoples attentions to do anything short of RMN forum or discord chat around here.

Why? I dunno. I hate how completely transparent I am. All people think of with Illy is OMG SNEK

(And that's me basically forcefeeding it to the discord over the past ??? years)
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