DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY RM GAMES IN THE SUPERHERO GENRE BESIDES MASTER OF THE WIND & OUTLAW CITY?

Yeah, magical girl doesn't count and...I had forgotten Marvel Brothel was a thing, but that doesn't count either I'm like...lookin' for a game where you do super heroe stuff, not one where you're wolverine's pimp lol.

It just seems a little stunning to me that after all this time the supes genre is almost totally unrepresented in the RM scene. I remember 10 years ago me and others bitching that everything was fantasy but scifi and horror caught up since then. Can superheroes really just have those two games?

P.S. Did Marvel Brothel ever get taken down by Marvel? It'd be a minor miracle if it hadn't. I'm not looking to play it, but Disney-Marvel have a reputation for being real assholes about their IP so I'd be stunned if it was still up. They have sued people for WAY less damaging things.

author=LockeZ
Well, a superhero RPG doesn't make a ton of sense. Because superheroes don't start off weak and get strong through experience. They gain their power all at once through a freak accident or a genetic mutation. Also the camera angle that's built into RPG Maker's exploration and areas is a very bad fit for characters who can fly.

So if you made a superhero RPG using RPG Maker, it would have to be a group of street-tier heroes, who can't fly, and whose powers probably mostly come from either arcane knowledge they've uncovered, or from technological weapons and tools, or from magic artifacts they've found and are gradually learning to use. Maybe you could have incredible powers from a science experiment or accident that the character can only use 1% of the time, and has to learn to fight without for the rest of the game, so they still need to level up. And... at that point I'm not actually sure how that's different from any other modern fantasy game. Is Iniquity & Vindication a superhero game?

Shit, is Final Fantasy 7 a superhero game? The only difference between FF7 and Marvel's Defenders or X-Men is that one is based on a comic book.

I think that your conception of both what RPGs can be and what superhero stories can be are both somewhat narrow.

Because superheroes don't start off weak and get strong through experience. They gain their power all at once through a freak accident or a genetic mutation.

Yes and no. They then have to learn to use that power. Every Spiderman reboot has had scenes of Peter Parker/Miles Morales learning to be Spiderman.

Even Iron Man has substantial power creep over the course of the Avengers films and his own films. In the comics, I'm sure the writers give him whatever powers he needs for the story's sake, but in the movies he starts powerful and...steadily get smore powerful.

But the other thing is..."zero to hero" is not the only way to handle an RPG Progression. Characters don't even need to level up. You could do it skill tree driven instead.

So if you made a superhero RPG using RPG Maker, it would have to be a group of street-tier heroes, who can't fly, and whose powers probably mostly come from either arcane knowledge they've uncovered, or from technological weapons and tools, or from magic artifacts they've found and are gradually learning to use.

See, this is something you do whilst arguing which I find more than slightly annoying. This paragraph assumes that I accept all of your prior arguments, which I (respectfully) don't.

Maybe you could have incredible powers from a science experiment or accident that the character can only use 1% of the time, and has to learn to fight without for the rest of the game, so they still need to level up.

Again, it is like you cannot conceive of an RPG where you don't level up in a traditional way. I'm sure you CAN conceive of that, but you're arguing from a stance as though you can't.

You have a valid point on the flying thing but just off the top of my head I can think of a few ways around it (strictly speaking, RM games are not anchored to any one perspective although implementing a non-default perspective is tricky).

Shit, is Final Fantasy 7 a superhero game? The only difference between FF7 and Marvel's Defenders or X-Men is that one is based on a comic book.

I disagree. In Final Fantasy VII the original videogame, the PCs are more like a Shadowrun party than superheroes. They're cyberpunk rebels with magic who eventualyl grow powerful enough to take on the baddies.

Now, in Final Fantasy VII Advent Children, the feats they are capable of are so jaw dropping and over the top that at that point, yes, it might as well be a marvel superhero movie.

I haven't played Iniquity & Vindication...wait, yes I have, that's yours, right? I think I remember that one giving me more of a Die Hard style dumb 80s action movie feel than a superhero one.