[MAFIA] CHRONO TRIGGER - A MAFIA THROUGH TIME - GAME OVER

author=Muffle
I'd rather not say why because I'm not sure how to put it in words without sounding mean? Basically what everyone else is saying, I'd rather keep Cap in the game over Odd because at least Cap might provide some usefulness or a flub later on.

Wait, so "he might be useful, or not" is your reasoning to not lynch him? I mean it's hard to argue with that as a statement, but it's also not a particularly strong case.

I would really like to think that this Odd train is suspicious, but at the same time there is no way we have like four scum.

...Oof, that was supposed to be my cool moment and formatting killed it, I guess.

author=Muffle
Yes, and I also have other reasons for lynching odd more than cap right now. and tbf I don't think ANYONE has a particularly strong case day 1.

Oh, oh, oh? And what could that be? What are these other reasons? Please, explain in full detail.

That's sort of the point. How else am I supposed to use my scum ability to insta-kill all town when I get lynched, then?

I'm not seeing much in the way of an AE case but no content that isn't fence-sitting either.

author=oddRABBIT
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That isn't a roleclaim, or whatever, but... it certainly is interesting I chose that video specifically.

I don't really know what to think about this. I don't like how vague it is, like it's leaving the door open for multiple explanations (including different claims) later, but without having to come up with the claim yet.

I also don't see how it's particularly helpful. If he's really making the claim that his role is so useful we shouldn't lynch him, then just saying "it's great, trust me" makes him a target for scum anyway.

If it's really not a roleclaim (or even a hint at one), then I'm afraid I don't understand what his case is.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
I'm not seeing much in the way of an AE case but no content that isn't fence-sitting either.

Because I was still kind of waiting for things to happen.

author=psy_wombats
I mean, as vanilla town, there is no greater aspiration than eating a nightkill~

What scum would night kill Odd? They know town will kill him nearly everytime. Remember that time Shinan got night killed and absolutely no one could come up with a reason why in the world any scum-team would do that? (It was because they were concerned about night kills being blocked and no one would guard Shinan).

I'm not feeling the case on AlaskanEmily but it's weird she is the only one left who isn't voting. As for Cap_H I haven't played with him much but I think he was in the first or second game I played and he was all over the place, if it was the only way to secure a lynch today I'd consider it but Odd is by far the better candidate for me.

If Odd is scum, horay we saved ourselves days of doubt. The very first game I played 2/3 scum died day 1 and then we got to MYLO with him as the final scum and the most recent game I played he was there at MYLO but town and it nearly cost us the game because although the final scum was vaguely scummy we couldn't shake the doubts about Odd.
If Odd is town then we won't waste a potentially more informed lynch on him later and like I said what scum team would night kill him? The only way he is getting night killed is if he is confirmed town.

If Odd's playstyle is far too much on the "passive", "lay low" side of things then yeah, I think it's easy to consider a lynch for him. Then again, if he's scum wouldn't it be kind of a "counterproductive" style of play for him?

We're all already targeting him, after all. Either his playstyle suck *that* much, past experiences of Mafia games with him were *that* bad, or we're already looking at cases of scum filling their own agenda by picking on Odd, one of the possible townspeople. As Emily said, four and more can't be scum, but others could have just jumped on the bandwagon.



... Knowing Odd, though...

Well, I don't have any reason to disbelieve Odd. So my vote against Cap_H stands.