IRON GAIA MAFIA!
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author=AeroGP link=topic=3879.msg79370#msg79370 date=1244581145
I'd say its the reverse of what you're saying - we're just trying to flush the Mafia out and the Mafia are acting innocent to make us look like the wolves.
I would like to highlight this one. "We"? You seem confident of Ark's alignment. And "the mafia trying to make us look like wolves"?
You're lobbying pretty hard for a GoG/me scum team. Now the funny thing is the only person that implicated both of you is Azn.
I'd also like to note that if you're trying to flush the Mafia out, it sure didn't show during the first two days.
C'mon. Now you're just panicking and trying to desperately deflect suspicion off yourself and slipping up in the process. Here, let me light your fire.
##vote AeroGP
author=Tonfa link=topic=3879.msg79374#msg79374 date=1244581878
You're lobbying pretty hard for a GoG/me scum team. Now the funny thing is the only person that implicated both of you is Azn.
Yes, and I was talking to Azn when I said that... not you.
You don't have to implicate to reflect the blame on someone else, anyways; you just have to deny, deny, deny. So I don't see how that's relevant.
author=Tonfa link=topic=3879.msg79374#msg79374 date=1244581878
I'd also like to note that if you're trying to flush the Mafia out, it sure didn't show during the first two days.
I was inactive during the first day, and as I said, I was trying to prevent getting killed for targeting Mafia on the second, because I can't lynch Mafia if I'm dead.
author=Tonfa link=topic=3879.msg79374#msg79374 date=1244581878
C'mon. Now you're just panicking and trying to desperately deflect suspicion off yourself and slipping up in the process.
I am very calm, actually. No matter what you say, I am confident you are both Mafia.
Current Votecount
GameOverGames Productions (2): AeroGP, Ark
AeroGP (1): Tonfa
Not Voting (4): AznChipmunk, GameOverGames Productions, Natook, Liberty
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is 8PM Pacific on Thursday, June 11th.
GameOverGames Productions (2): AeroGP, Ark
AeroGP (1): Tonfa
Not Voting (4): AznChipmunk, GameOverGames Productions, Natook, Liberty
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is 8PM Pacific on Thursday, June 11th.
author=AeroGP link=topic=3879.msg79377#msg79377 date=1244582562
Yes, and I was talking to Azn when I said that... not you.
Oh, let me try this again with added emphasis so you understand.
author=AeroGP link=topic=3879.msg79370#msg79370 date=1244581145
I'd say its the reverse of what you're saying - we're just trying to flush the Mafia out and the Mafia are acting innocent to make us look like the wolves.
So are you implying Azn is mafia or not?
Furthermore, you're still deliberately avoiding consciously talking about Ark.
author=AeroGP link=topic=3879.msg79377#msg79377 date=1244582562
I was inactive during the first day, and as I said, I was trying to prevent getting killed for targeting Mafia on the second, because I can't lynch Mafia if I'm dead.
Me-centricness is a terrible trait for ordinary town. Oh no, you can't lynch mafia if you're dead. Guess what? If you try to fly under the radar you're not lynching mafia while alive either. If you get killed during the night, so be it. It just means there's another townie that lives in your place, who learns from the fact you died, that you were a target, and makes the cases against mafia. I know it's popular to think that you have a better scumdar than anyone else out there, but it's just pure arrogance. In the best case, you'll even take the bullet instead of a town power role. In fact the two groups that have most to lose by being lynched and are often seen keeping low profile are town power roles and mafia. And I have a firm suspicion you're the latter.
author=AeroGP link=topic=3879.msg79377#msg79377 date=1244582562
I am very calm, actually. No matter what you say, I am confident you are both Mafia.
Nice to know it's useless talking to you, I guess. Tunnelvisioning is yet another trait of either Mafia or arrogant town play.
Considering I wasn't able to do anything the first day, now is as good a time as ever to strike down without mercy. Call me arrogant all you want, but I'm sticking to my vote.
And what more do you want me to say about Ark, exactly? I obviously don't think he's Mafia. Note that he posted once and only once during each of the previous phases. As explained earlier, Mafia have to participate during the day to make sure they don't get lynched. It's more likely he was a busy or inactive town during those days like myself than an extremely confident Mafia member.
Azn is probably not Mafia, either, but to be honest I'm on the fence. His behavior isn't out of the ordinary and he hasn't done anything that would create suspicion, but that could just be careful Mafia play.
And what more do you want me to say about Ark, exactly? I obviously don't think he's Mafia. Note that he posted once and only once during each of the previous phases. As explained earlier, Mafia have to participate during the day to make sure they don't get lynched. It's more likely he was a busy or inactive town during those days like myself than an extremely confident Mafia member.
Azn is probably not Mafia, either, but to be honest I'm on the fence. His behavior isn't out of the ordinary and he hasn't done anything that would create suspicion, but that could just be careful Mafia play.
I believe Ark was being silent because he is just sort of silent for these sort of things, or he was trying to slip unnoticed under the radar.
From the way you're talking about it, it seems as if everyone plays using your strategies. People can be much more complicated than just what you are saying: "bandwagoning doesn't work" "Mafia have to _____" etc.
author=AeroGP link=topic=3879.msg79386#msg79386 date=1244584843
As explained earlier, Mafia have to participate during the day to make sure they don't get lynched.
From the way you're talking about it, it seems as if everyone plays using your strategies. People can be much more complicated than just what you are saying: "bandwagoning doesn't work" "Mafia have to _____" etc.
author=AeroGP link=topic=3879.msg79386#msg79386 date=1244584843
As explained earlier, Mafia have to participate during the day to make sure they don't get lynched.
Odd statement to make. It is much more dangerous for town to lurk. Townies don't know what alignment a lurker is, and are equally likely to suggest a lynch either way. For mafia, they're much more likely to spearhead an easy case against a town lurker than one of their own.
Complicated as in putting on an act? If they are as good as that, what chance do we have to detect them except to vote randomly and hope that we catch a fake? Nothing gets accomplished for us with self-defeating logic like that.
EDIT: Is that because you believe a lurker is a more likely suspect than not? I don't. I believe it's the other way around when it comes to lurkers. There were plenty during Night 1, yet the only lurker that was killed then was Mafia. Seems to me that they don't see them as a threat, so they just focus on the ones who might actually vote them off.
Just as you are doing right now, even though I'm not even voting for you - I'm voting for GameOverGames. You will be next, of course, which is the point...
EDIT: Is that because you believe a lurker is a more likely suspect than not? I don't. I believe it's the other way around when it comes to lurkers. There were plenty during Night 1, yet the only lurker that was killed then was Mafia. Seems to me that they don't see them as a threat, so they just focus on the ones who might actually vote them off.
Just as you are doing right now, even though I'm not even voting for you - I'm voting for GameOverGames. You will be next, of course, which is the point...
Consider this the final warning:
Nobody is allowed to edit their posts. Make another post if you have something else to add.
Should I catch another edit, I will remove the offending person from the game via modkill.
Don't make me do that.
Nobody is allowed to edit their posts. Make another post if you have something else to add.
Should I catch another edit, I will remove the offending person from the game via modkill.
Don't make me do that.
Current Votecount
AeroGP (3): Tonfa, AznChipmunk, Liberty
GameOverGames Productions (2): AeroGP, Ark
Not Voting (2): GameOverGames Productions, Natook
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is 8PM Pacific on Thursday, June 11th.
AeroGP (3): Tonfa, AznChipmunk, Liberty
GameOverGames Productions (2): AeroGP, Ark
Not Voting (2): GameOverGames Productions, Natook
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is 8PM Pacific on Thursday, June 11th.
Oh great. Unless GOG suddenly decides not to vote for himself or Azn or Liberty changes their minds, I'm out.
Good job.
Good job.
author=GameOverGames Productions link=topic=3879.msg78593#msg78593 date=1244170179
I'm suspicious about him. It sounds almost like he is trying to insinuate that he is the Vigilante to put us off his tracks, and he was the only one who jumped in and also voted on lynching Gemini on the first day.
Honestly, I haven't seen much to sway my suspicions from Ark. I'm seeing a few more accusations of him, but he's kind of brushed them off and I'm not seeing any real evidence that he's not mafia.
##vote Ark
I'm also not 100% certain, but I have possible evidence that AeroGP actually is town despite the way he's been posting. People I might be wrong but I think you have the wrong man!!!
Then again though, he does want to kill me. I rescind my earlier warning, someone kill him. (I shalt not out of cold blood or some such stupid reason)
author=AeroGP link=topic=3879.msg79390#msg79390 date=1244585618
Complicated
Mafia can do really complicated things. Like, for example, they may try to lynch one of their own during the day so that suspicion will be thrown off him. Currently I am debating the possibility that GoG and AeroGP are the wolves, and AeroGP is putting on the act that he wants to lynch GoG, so if one of them shows up as wolf, suspicion is thrown off the other... Hm... Tonfa, what do you think?
Well guys, AeroGP better be the enemy for your sakes, because if Aero ends up being innocent, it's going to look really bad for you two (Azn and Tonfa) but at this point, I'm thinkin you guys are making some sense, but I'm not casting the vote just yet. We really can't screw up this time.
When posting the above warning, I was thinking that it would probably backlash on me and make people think that it's part of some intricate mafia scheme. Then I thought that if he is lynched and turns out to actually be an important town role (I seriously think he is, guess I can back it up with more evidence if needed) it won't matter. Can't say I didn't try to warn you though.