RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARCADE
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What is your favorite game that you just absolutely love, but the graphics are so old at this point it's too hard to bring yourself to actually play it again? This doesn't seem to hold true to sprite graphics as much as other looks, especially with our community. But you know you've got some faded glories in your Regret Closet.*
Anyway, mine would be my favorite game of all time: Betrayal at Krondor. I just can't play it now. If any game deserved a remake it's that one...and it should be live action again, not 3D (at least for the characters.)
*Regret Closet may or may not be capitalized.**
**It's not.
Anyway, mine would be my favorite game of all time: Betrayal at Krondor. I just can't play it now. If any game deserved a remake it's that one...and it should be live action again, not 3D (at least for the characters.)
*Regret Closet may or may not be capitalized.**
**It's not.
There was this super old computer game I used to have when I was little, that was actually older than I was (I think). Buck Rogers; countdown to doomsday. I had only played it a few times, because the system requirements were too high for it to run on my old tandy 1000, and I had to install it on a windows 95 machine that I only got to use once every couple of months.
The game was a turned based strategy rpg, and looking it up recently tells me that it was based on some D&D engine that I didn't know about until much more recently. For that game, the problem isn't that it looks bad, and that prevents me from playing it, it's that I no longer have the disks to install it, nor can I find a download copy.
Also, the very early king's quest and space quest games. I don't think I need to say anything about these.
The game was a turned based strategy rpg, and looking it up recently tells me that it was based on some D&D engine that I didn't know about until much more recently. For that game, the problem isn't that it looks bad, and that prevents me from playing it, it's that I no longer have the disks to install it, nor can I find a download copy.
Also, the very early king's quest and space quest games. I don't think I need to say anything about these.
Oh sure, SSI used to make all the Dungeons and Dragons computer games. Countless adventures that really all looked the same, but they were the front runner to the strategy RPGs you see so much of now. They used to be called "Gold Box," at least as slang, because all their D&D packaging was the same color. Looks like they made Buck stand out from the pack.
I'm right there with you on King's Quest, and might humbly add the Quest For Glory series. And that first game even *had* a graphic remake, to address this very issue. It was just years ago and raised it from 16 colors to 256. :D
I'm right there with you on King's Quest, and might humbly add the Quest For Glory series. And that first game even *had* a graphic remake, to address this very issue. It was just years ago and raised it from 16 colors to 256. :D
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Oh sure, SSI used to make all the Dungeons and Dragons computer games. Countless adventures that really all looked the same, but they were the front runner to the strategy RPGs you see so much of now. They used to be called "Gold Box," at least as slang, because all their D&D packaging was the same color. Looks like they made Buck stand out from the pack.
These are all things I discovered from wikipedia when I was bored at work. XD
At the time I didn't know anything about D&D, or gold box. Or even wat 540kb of ram was, or why I didn't have it. I was like 6 or 7 years old, at the time (and by that time, the game was pretty dated, as was my computer)
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I'm right there with you on King's Quest, and might humbly add the Quest For Glory series. And that first game even *had* a graphic remake, to address this very issue. It was just years ago and raised it from 16 colors to 256. :D
someone at work gave me a dvd that had dosbox and all of the old sierra adventure games on it. I had never played quest for glory before that, I must say, it was quite fun.
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Hugo's House. Magnificent.
OH man, I loved those Hugo games. I don't think I ever finished one...
But specifically speaking, a lot of the first generation rpg's are just unplayable for me. I can't play Final Fantasy, or Dragon Warrior because either the gameplay mechanics are TOO oldschool, or the graphics or music make me want to pull out my hair.
There's even some games like that on the PS2 for me - aka. La Pucelle, tactics. After I've been spoiled by the good stuff, the AGONIZINGLY SLOW battles just seem so passe that I could never bring myself to play it again.
Hexatona go die.
Also, this only happens to me with 3D FPS games, since older graphics make me nauseous as I walk around. I tried playing Wolfenstein 3D and I got ill with motion sickness. But that was just me - Metroid Prime also made me ill while playing.
I have yet to encounter an old game outside of FPSes that I loved that I couldn't play again because of its graphics, though.
Also, this only happens to me with 3D FPS games, since older graphics make me nauseous as I walk around. I tried playing Wolfenstein 3D and I got ill with motion sickness. But that was just me - Metroid Prime also made me ill while playing.
I have yet to encounter an old game outside of FPSes that I loved that I couldn't play again because of its graphics, though.
Yeah I can't say this applies to me too much. If I don't like a game, I don't like it for what it is, not because it's old.
Whaaaat I replayed Betrayal at Krondor not too long ago! The graphics are pretty horrid but SO WHAT it is like the first RPG I ever played and I used to be really god-awful at it (it is an incredibly hard game). It also got me into Feist's novels. =)
My big problem with old games is their lacklustre playability; I actually love the graphics in Warcraft 1, for instance, but its so archaic and handles so poorly that it is hard to bring myself to play a full match. The same goes for Warcraft 2 and Red Alert (these are all RTSes so what!); the graphics are great and they're a lot of fun, but the pathing/unit control/et cetera is not very good and so I play their newer iterations, which I actually like less overall.
My big problem with old games is their lacklustre playability; I actually love the graphics in Warcraft 1, for instance, but its so archaic and handles so poorly that it is hard to bring myself to play a full match. The same goes for Warcraft 2 and Red Alert (these are all RTSes so what!); the graphics are great and they're a lot of fun, but the pathing/unit control/et cetera is not very good and so I play their newer iterations, which I actually like less overall.
I can't play Final Fantasy, or Dragon Warrior because either the gameplay mechanics are TOO oldschool, or the graphics or music make me want to pull out my hair.
Haha then you should stay away from NEStalgia (http://www.byond.com/games/SilkGames/NEStalgia) though Kentona would probably like it. I loved the graphics, it was the lack of character customization that I've become spoiled on. Knowing that my cleric would be exactly the same for the next four levels, and then learn the next healing spell and it made me exactly like every other cleric, was just too much to keep at it. But I give them mad props, this is exactly what I grew up with. In this regard, I think Breath of Death VII (http://www.destructoid.com/breath-of-death-vii-seems-an-amusing-novelty-171844.phtml) is very successful...it mixes the old gen graphics with some actual customization for the low low price of one dollar.
Whatchutalking about Kaempfer? The Red Alerts and C&Cs of yesterday are far easier to use. You can do things, like, select units and quickly identify buildings and passable terrain. With the newer 3D RTSes you spend more time fighting the interface than you do the enemy!
post=138846I can't play Final Fantasy, or Dragon Warrior because either the gameplay mechanics are TOO oldschool, or the graphics or music make me want to pull out my hair.Haha then you should stay away from NEStalgia (http://www.byond.com/games/SilkGames/NEStalgia) though Kentona would probably like it. I loved the graphics, it was the lack of character customization that I've become spoiled on. Knowing that my cleric would be exactly the same for the next four levels, and then learn the next healing spell and it made me exactly like every other cleric, was just too much to keep at it. But I give them mad props, this is exactly what I grew up with. In this regard, I think Breath of Death VII (http://www.destructoid.com/breath-of-death-vii-seems-an-amusing-novelty-171844.phtml) is very successful...it mixes the old gen graphics with some actual customization for the low low price of one dollar.
Actually, those look like fun! Kinda wish i had an xbox so i could play that Breath of Death
post=138851Actually looking back at the earliest ones there were some things missing from the controls (like Emperor BD only stacked up to 9 unit builds at a time and patrol routes/waypoints were useless) that I don't know how I could play about now. They had everything just right by about Red Alert 2 but then EA had to screw everything up and make it all 3D. Also old live action cutscenes heh.
Whatchutalking about Kaempfer? The Red Alerts and C&Cs of yesterday are far easier to use. You can do things, like, select units and quickly identify buildings and passable terrain. With the newer 3D RTSes you spend more time fighting the interface than you do the enemy!
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Yeah I can't say this applies to me too much. If I don't like a game, I don't like it for what it is, not because it's old.
Exactly the same here, I'm not reluctant to play a game that was made 10 or 15 years ago. Infact I think this topic is kind of odd.
It seems that half the games released now-a-days really are just all about the graphics, and they're not all that important as long as a tree is a tree and a rock is a rock. In my opinion it's the older games that age better and that I want to replay more because they didn't have fancy graphics and they focused on other things (definitely nothing to do with nostalgia).
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Also, this only happens to me with 3D FPS games, since older graphics make me nauseous as I walk around.
I think sprites hold up a looooot better than polygons. Whenever I think about getting something from the PSN or Live store, I see the screens and think "...Oh. Right." I can still play Final Fantasy 1 or Dragon Warrior 1. But FF7 is incredibly hard for me to look at. It's a little easier on the PSP, because everything's smaller. But the old graphics (which were of course revolutionary when I first got it) especially on a large tv now, I can't even tell what I'm supposed to be looking at. And Tifa, you were so pretty...*sniff*
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