Heartache 101 ~Sour into Sweet~

author=Nekochi
Just because you don't find terms like mentally challenged to be offensive doesn't mean that's true of everyone who is "mentally challenged."

I can see your point with this last one. I'm sorry. The rest before is another story, but let that be a topic for another day.

author=Nekochi
My objection to the term is not completely to the term itself, but to how you're using it. I don't know about Kyouki, but Keika and Junko definitely are not mentally challenged. Keika is a little spacey and she might have ADD, but that does not make someone mentally challenged.

I hear you. I have ADHD; I never mentioned it here because I hardly ever considered it more than an annoyance(the lack of spatial sense especially; it can be embarrassing when you freerun for a hobby but can't tie your shoes for yourself. Good luck explaining that one). Now, I know it's not exactly the same thing... but I doubt Keika has any of the sort. All weirdness we seem to have in common is the questionable pastime of sneaking up on people. I was thinking of an early onset of something much, much worse>.>

author=Nekochi
I think of mentally challenged as referring to something more permanent and built in, such as autism (and even then I'd use mentally ill over mentally challenged, since mentally challenged strikes me as being too close to calling someone an idiot).

Mentally challenged is a wide category. Idiots and retards are a kind of it, not the whole. The challenged part of the phrase means 'impeded due to a disability', and mental disorders are disabilities. Depression is a mood disorder(you probably know that, I'm just trying to make a point). My disorder affects the personality. Autism is developmental. Your head has a lot of parts that can go astray in a plenthora of disturbing ways. And you're saying you're getting better.
I'm jealous of you.
Look at my posts, Nekochi! Count how many of them hasn't been edited! I waste hours at the end to make sure my posts sound at least a faint brand of interesting! Sometimes, I edit posts I wrote half a year ago on the off-chance someone reads it! It's an incredible waste of my time. Nobody in his right mind would ever do that. But if I don't...if I just so much as think I turned someone away from me, it eats away at me. And you can't edit speech. One little mistake gives me months worth of nightmares. I clearly remember every time I messed up, or thought I messed up. I can't forget any of it. I can't afford myself to forget. The only thing that at least distracts me from it is praise. Every time somebody is nice to me, I get a few moments... those short, precious moments, when I don't care about that. When I feel like I worth something. And then, when those who praised me are angry with me or talk me down, I snap. I can't help thinking it was something I said, or they just pretended to like me so they can hurt me later. That's why it looks like I overreact to or lie about everything! But I don't. It really feels worse! What people think means the world to me. And... I'm afraid. I'm so afraid. I'm afraid I hurt you, I'm afraid I hurt Marrend, I'm afraid you're hurting me on purpose, I'm afraid I'll never figure out which one is true, and I'm afraid because it doesn't matter which one. I either decide you're bad people and act like it or cry lamenting just how horrible I am before I escape into a fantasy world where people would never leave me. It doesn't make sense. And it's pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
But it's not that bad.
I understand that, you don't have to tell me. I couldn't figure out what autism exactly means yet, but those few parts I could wrap my head around make me consider myself lucky I don't have it. I'm ready to admit, any problem that haunts you for your entire life is lot worse of a problem than mine or yours. The borderline part of my disorder should disappear if I live long enough(don't ask why, nobody has a decent idea), which I'm thankful for. HPD can only be 'cured' in theory; normal treatment never fixed it. The only procedure that actually could do something about it so far is lobotomy, one I'd stay far, far away from, but the fact we know where the problem is gives me hope that somebody will figure out something better in my lifetime. But you can't tell me they don't make life harder. Yours does too, doesn't it? It's a challenge, hence why someone with a disorder is challenged. Normally there's no hidden meaning behind that. Those who use it as an euphemism for idiots can go screw themselves. Because this? The only reason you couldn't call my little self-perpetuating personal hell a "challenge" because it's an understatement.

And I'm sorry. I didn't mean to hurt anyone. I'm a fool, these sort of things happen. I shouldn't have assumed you don't know what you're talking about. Please, don't take it out on me. Not until you've at least tried to explain what did I do wrong. Like you did. Now I can see what I've done, and understand why you're upset. I promise I can do better. ... Okay? Christmas Special Pinky Swear? T-T

author=Nekochi
I just want to let you know that if you ever need to talk or if you wanted to explain things, I'd be happy to try and understand, whether here or in a more private setting.

....Thank you:')

author=Nekochi
I don't always remember to check RPG maker though, so just don't be offended if I don't get back to you right away, okay?

Ow.

author=Nekochi
I promise it's not because I'm trying to avoid you or something!

Double ow.

author=Nekochi
I still haven't seen Kyouki's route. ;)

*Unconscious*

author=Nekochi
I do think that Junko wouldn't actively support being mean to someone who she felt didn't deserve it (she has no qualms with saying harsh things to people she sees as jerks, though)

Makin' notes...*scribble*

author=Nekochi
she'd tolerate quite a bit of abuse before turning on someone

O.o Umm-
...
Walked right into it, didn't you.

author=Nekochi
So, if you don't mind, I'd like to see Ryoko's route before it's released publicly, since how she is portrayed has an effect on how people might see Junko, since Junko used to be best friends with her. Of course, you don't have to let me see it, but I'd appreciate it.

Of course><!

author=Marrend
Are we at least agreed that the "Tsubasa route" should be more possible than it is now?

Uhh. Not what I meant. And sure, why not.

Hrm. So, the "Suggest Tsubasa" option is "no good" to allow Tsubasa (or, to be more precise, her mind) to be the sacrifice for Fran rather than the player. However, Dozen agrees that there should be an easier method for this to happen.

Sad possibility: I am rolling "Absolute Failure" on my reading comprehension. Again.

For a moment Nekochi had me wondering if she might not be MY sister in disguise, seeing as I have Asperger's and my younger sister has severe depression. (or at least my family tells me I have Asperger's; I feel like I'm normal, but one of its symptoms, apparently, is that when you have it you can't tell that you have it)

I'm not sure I'd want to see where we all place on that mental illness chart Dozen placed the game chars on last month, haha.

Merry Christmas btw :D One more week before I can start making games again...