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Gameplay: You Can't Ignore Its Girth.

  • tardis
  • 12/02/2010 10:53 AM
  • 34013 views

Legendary Legend
a game by Sibhod

Reviewed for your reading pleasure by tardis


I downloaded this game after seeing some heated discussion about it spring up on IRC, as well as argument about whether or not it deserved to be a featured game.
The prognosis didn't look good, but I had to see for myself. Unfortunately, we start low and snowball from there.

This is the first thing I saw after downloading the game:


Why anyone would actually use the untranslated RM 'installer' is beyond me, but I am thankful to say that due to this, I didn't start with huge expectations. I would have quit a lot quicker if not for this.

I'm going to forgo the traditional review format in favour of something of a play-by-play of the game. Everything you read from this point on was written as I played the game, so it's my immediate impression of what I experienced playing Legendary Legend.

Right out of the gate, the title screen music is some sort of horribly grating insipid upbeat midi. I'm terrified already, but it's nice to not hear any Final Fantasy music or anything I recognize immediately.
Nice photoshop text FX bro.

Textbox intro with visible blue RTP textbox and everything, then we cut to the dorms at the University of Miami. We're introduced to a group of students- Nick, Brian, and Steve. Is that Polyanna from Mother playing in the background? The scenes in the dorm involve a little tussle that ends in the presumable death of an innocent Dungeons & Dragons loving child and some mediocre banter. Cute, but stale. This looped earthbound music is really starting to get to me. All are shocked at the appearance of a mysterious fat man in a hat wearing some form of burlap sack robe. I think he's offering the characters psychotropic drugs of some kind. Something about "If the trip doesn't kill you." I don't even. The protagonists are proclaimed the "chosen ones" and are sent off on some sort of magical journey with a hearty "SHABONG."
Dude. Bong. He IS offering them drugs.

Masterful dialogue.


Cue screen tint transition to idyllic RTP village. The characters come to the conclusion that they have "GONE BACK IN TIME" (direct quote) and that they are "doomed to become lowly serfs in the feudal system!" (direct quote)
You can't make this shit up.


Run away while you still can.


Long story short, the crew meets up with "Rixislennia'Enlokulier-Horalenfilaasimelle, elven ranger!," a green-haired manlady with a horn- yes, like a unicorn- who forms them into an RPG PARTY. It's been a while now, and I'm still just scrolling through text. I'm starting to despair at the thought of ever actually getting to play a game in amidst all these insipid jokes about poking people with sticks and humorously named pubs, like the tee-hee worthy "Fornicating Goblin." Five seconds in RTPworld, and one of the characters has magically set a dog on fire.
You can't make this shit up.

Our heroes join up with Rixis(etc), get outfitted at the local Weapon/Armour shop(both shops share a building, of course) and AT LONG LAST, I get to control my characters! I hit up the local save point so I wouldn't have to sit through all of that shit again. I explored some houses. Judging from the fact the first one I barged into poked fun at the RPG trope referenced in this very sentence, I expected full-on RPG content to be found at every turn. I checked pots, dressers, miscellaneous items of furniture, everything. The two things I found that were actually interactable in the houses I checked were a bookcase with some unfunny fantasy book names and a pot that said "This is a pot!"


OH GOD IT HAS BECOME SELF AWARE RUN


One of the (very) few laugh-out-loud moments of the game came when I discovered a statue in town that told me if I started talking to statues, I'd never stop. Some graves in town had some pretty humorous flavour text as well.
Let's skip ahead a bit.
Went to the inn, ninja in my room, party leaves the in. LONG CUTSCENE.
I'm supposed to go invade some noble's house. Okay whatever. Rixis the Manlady goes to infiltrate the noble's house. My party watches through the window. They think they see the noble accosting their Obviously Hermaphroditic acquaintance. Then AWESOME SHIT HAPPENS:

This one totally came out of left field. I laughed pretty hard, even if it was just from the shock of the totally ridiculous splash screen popping up out of nowhere.


I found myself pausing to reflect at this point- the whole intro would have been a LOT less awful to sit through had it all been done in these comicbook splash screens. I could almost stand to look at that rather than the horrible RM graphics for the extreme period of time each cutscene seems to take.

I digress. Turns out I was breaking into this mansion to save- you guessed it- the princess. Oh, I didn't have to go looking for her or anything. The endless cutscene took care of any exploration I would have had to do, so I don't have to worry my pretty little head. Thus far I've gotten in about a solid minute and a half of actually controlling my characters and about 20 minutes of endless cutscenes and paging through text. Oh look, it's the title card that signals I'm finally into the game and out of the intro. About damn time.


I just love those shockingly deep internal monologues, don't you?



Some other stuff happens, and we're finally introduced to the antagonists. As expected, it's some mysterious asshole in a throne facing away from the player and his evil henchman, some white motherfucker with cornrows or some shit. I don't even care any more, can I fight shit yet? Cut back to my party and I've been joined by Zegi, the Cleric of Raping Little Girl Booty. I wish that was his real title, but the game throws some "goddess of love" bullshit at you that's more creepy than anything else. Oh shit, I'm on a world map!

FIRST EVER RANDOM ENCOUNTER YEAAAH NOW THAT'S MORE LI-

default rm2k3 battlesprites against the default rm2k3 plain backdrop face dangerously close to palm--
Maybe the fight itself won't be so bad. Maybe I have some cool ski- all skills suck just mash attack
Did I mention I can't even RUN from the random encounters? This is the first RM game where I have actually used autobattle. No shit. I do want to call some attention to the actually pretty okay custom/mostly custom battler sprites. If the whole game looked like that, I'd be a lot more interested in... Well, looking at it.


truly inspired mapping


Some other stuff happened, I wound up in a cave. This game gave me a terrible infection in both eyes, because I just couldn't see playing any more.

Legendary Legend is clearly an older RM* game, created by an author with very little knowledge of the programme or good game design in general. After what felt like an eternity of truly terrible cutscenes, I finally got control of my characters for an extended length of time. At that point, the only thing I can compare exploration in this game to is Quest 64 on the N64. In Quest 64, you walk from location to location across pointlessly huge grassy field maps, never stopping to explore anything or search for items or do side quests because there is nothing. You just follow the damn road until you hit the next town or inn or whatever. Add truly bland, uninspired maps using tilesets compiled with no thought toward graphical consistency, and you've got a visual recipe for disaster.

The writing in this game is dreadful. Truly uninspired and sincerely unfunny humour the author seems to feel the need to interject every few moments in the hope of sparking a 'choice catchphrase' that will become INTERNET PHENOM. Every single character in this speaks in the same disgusting 13-year-old-internet-dweeb-speek that all webcomic authors seem to think is just ever so adorable. Occasionally, it all breaks down into the worst type of otaku-ese verbal self-masturbation- read: "Nick = Warrior = Can't possibly take that demon thingie." and "His taint is still upon me. I can feel it!"

At the end of the day, Legendary Legend fails in even the simplest aspects of game design. The writing could be pretty enjoyable if you're 13 or have never read a book in your life, but it's not enough to carry an otherwise really disappointing game. Not only is it disappointing in terms of content and game design, but it's barely a game at all- it's an interactive webcomic with shitty RPG Maker battles. If you're looking for an enjoyable gaming experience, I suggest you seek elsewhere.

If you are looking to read a webcomic, the author of this game has made one! Sibhod should stick to webcomics- it's actually pretty good from what I've seen. You can find that here at his site here: http://www.valsalia.com/llarchive.htm


i probably waited too long to do this.

Posts

author=newdisciples
author=TFT
author=Feldschlacht IV
author=Ciel
author=Abdel McCrack
So why don't you guys start featuring interesting looking games instead of "holy christ the balance is perfect!!!" or rtp comedy games?

I don't know, feature something special, as it stands, new people will just come on this site, see the featured game and think "wow, what a bunch of amateurs" then leave.
yes yes yes. 99% of the traffic, from what I hear, comes through the site and never touches the forums. that means there is an immense number of people for whom the featured game is the one and only impression of the site they ever get. that big screenshot and synopsis front and center on the main page should be of vital importance to the site's health. the game up there needs to be a representation of the finest quality rmn is capable of. (ended sentence with preposition!) it should not be changed lightly i m o.
hey listen to this guy.
whos going to listen, dude? ciel fires like, a million ideas that are worth checking into and whoever is in charge just goes(???) "herp derp"
HOLY SHIT! This is beyond ridiculous!

Are you all really that lame? You need to shit all over someone's work just because we feel like someone else deserved it more? There are 12 months in a year, and unless you believe that 2012 is the end, there are a shitload more coming to us. There's still time for other great games to be featured.

It is NOT RMN's responsibility to market your game, it is yours! So don't pretend it's the Featured Project's fault you aren't getting the hits you want for your shitty ass games. If you aren't getting the downloads or attention you want, then it falls on YOU to fix the problem. Upload it to other sites, share your best images, whatever ya gotta do.

I've never seen so much whining and bitching in my life. What kind of a fucking jackass do you have to be to say this shit where the author can read it? Blaming one guy for a month worth of potential visitors you probably wouldn't have gotten anyway because your game oozes of shit and semen... If life is so bad that your only ray of hope is to get your game featured, you might want to take a hard look at yourself.

You really care about this community and wanna see it grow? Stop shitting on your fellow members' games!


I only have one thing to say to this; my game is better than yours.
TFT
WHOA wow wow. two tails? that is a sexy idea...
445
of all the images to pull you didn't choose this one

but this is besides the point. what if goku piloted....a mech
Wow, someone has a point and now we're just gonna attack his game in retaliation?

What the hell happened here?

author=Jericho
but this is besides the point. what if goku piloted....a mech


A Gundam Mech!
author=Jericho
but this is besides the point. what if goku piloted....a mech
xenogears
You are either quite dense or just enjoy pretending to be so.

Don't consider your experiences to be a rule and not the exception, this is advertising 101 we are speaking about here..

Cute response.

Like I said before, I don't think people are going to run for the hills because this game is featured, especially since they have the option to see the previous featured games and will learn for themselves that this website has had a varied selection of featured games of several different genres, platforms, etc (thus dispelling the notion that only games of "this type" get featured).

This is really hard to read with a straight face. please don't troll us yeaster.

Sorry bud, I just don't do the whole bandwagon-hopping thing. I had an option and I voiced it. If you do not agree, skip it.
Magi
Resident Terrapin
1028
author=newdisciples
HOLY SHIT! This is beyond ridiculous!

Are you all really that lame? You need to shit all over someone's work just because we feel like someone else deserved it more? There are 12 months in a year, and unless you believe that 2012 is the end, there are a shitload more coming to us. There's still time for other great games to be featured.

It is NOT RMN's responsibility to market your game, it is yours! So don't pretend it's the Featured Project's fault you aren't getting the hits you want for your shitty ass games. If you aren't getting the downloads or attention you want, then it falls on YOU to fix the problem. Upload it to other sites, share your best images, whatever ya gotta do.

I've never seen so much whining and bitching in my life. What kind of a fucking jackass do you have to be to say this shit where the author can read it? Blaming one guy for a month worth of potential visitors you probably wouldn't have gotten anyway because your game oozes of shit and semen... If life is so bad that your only ray of hope is to get your game featured, you might want to take a hard look at yourself.

You really care about this community and wanna see it grow? Stop shitting on your fellow members' games!

I would really like this post to be permanently embedded in your profile page so every click will lambaste users with catatonia-inducing levels of heavy handed misinformation
Magi
Resident Terrapin
1028
author=Magi
author=newdisciples
HOLY SHIT! This is beyond ridiculous!

Are you all really that lame? You need to shit all over someone's work just because we feel like someone else deserved it more? There are 12 months in a year, and unless you believe that 2012 is the end, there are a shitload more coming to us. There's still time for other great games to be featured.

It is NOT RMN's responsibility to market your game, it is yours! So don't pretend it's the Featured Project's fault you aren't getting the hits you want for your shitty ass games. If you aren't getting the downloads or attention you want, then it falls on YOU to fix the problem. Upload it to other sites, share your best images, whatever ya gotta do.

I've never seen so much whining and bitching in my life. What kind of a fucking jackass do you have to be to say this shit where the author can read it? Blaming one guy for a month worth of potential visitors you probably wouldn't have gotten anyway because your game oozes of shit and semen... If life is so bad that your only ray of hope is to get your game featured, you might want to take a hard look at yourself.

You really care about this community and wanna see it grow? Stop shitting on your fellow members' games!
I would really like this post to be permanently embedded in your profile page so every click will lambaste users with catatonia-inducing levels of heavy handed misinformation
That means it's by far the most profoundly stupid thing I have ever, ever read on this website; and there is an exceptional wealth of stupid here in this topic alone.
author=sbester
Wow, someone has a point and now we're just gonna attack his game in retaliation?

What the hell happened here?

author=Jericho
but this is besides the point. what if goku piloted....a mech

A Gundam Mech!
A point?
Buddy, read what he typed, he has no idea what exactly it is that's been said, he thinks they are saying "hey feature my game instead".

author=Yeaster
You are either quite dense or just enjoy pretending to be so.

Don't consider your experiences to be a rule and not the exception, this is advertising 101 we are speaking about here..
Cute response.

Like I said before, I don't think people are going to run for the hills because this game is featured, especially since they have the option to see the previous featured games and will learn for themselves that this website has had a varied selection of featured games of several different genres, platforms, etc (thus dispelling the notion that only games of "this type" get featured).
First impressions are quite strong, you'd be surprised. It isn't because you would browse around most of them actually will.
You want to sell the website, to show what it's worth, and if the featured game doesn't look interesting to them, then they'll just look elsewhere as they will think this is the standard of quality the site has.

author=Yeaster
This is really hard to read with a straight face. please don't troll us yeaster.
Sorry bud, I just don't do the whole bandwagon-hopping thing. I had an option and I voiced it. If you do not agree, skip it.
If he has to skip it if he disagrees then why exactly have you even posted it?
author=Magi
author=Magi
author=newdisciples
HOLY SHIT! This is beyond ridiculous!

Are you all really that lame? You need to shit all over someone's work just because we feel like someone else deserved it more? There are 12 months in a year, and unless you believe that 2012 is the end, there are a shitload more coming to us. There's still time for other great games to be featured.

It is NOT RMN's responsibility to market your game, it is yours! So don't pretend it's the Featured Project's fault you aren't getting the hits you want for your shitty ass games. If you aren't getting the downloads or attention you want, then it falls on YOU to fix the problem. Upload it to other sites, share your best images, whatever ya gotta do.

I've never seen so much whining and bitching in my life. What kind of a fucking jackass do you have to be to say this shit where the author can read it? Blaming one guy for a month worth of potential visitors you probably wouldn't have gotten anyway because your game oozes of shit and semen... If life is so bad that your only ray of hope is to get your game featured, you might want to take a hard look at yourself.

You really care about this community and wanna see it grow? Stop shitting on your fellow members' games!
I would really like this post to be permanently embedded in your profile page so every click will lambaste users with catatonia-inducing levels of heavy handed misinformation
That means it's by far the most profoundly stupid thing I have ever, ever read on this website; and there is an exceptional wealth of stupid here in this topic alone.

Yeah, and I mean I've said some stupid shit. If you can top the stupidest shit I've ever said in my career here than well that's really something!
Now would have been a good time to use that ironhide facepalm lmao
why would the staff of a user content contribution web site feature material that is not representative of the userbase's best and brightest? it is FEATURED. that means 'we as an institution are recognizing the exceptional work done by this particular creator and feel it is of sufficient importance and quality that it can represent the site as our flagship title for the next x period of time'. why should a new visitor NOT take that as an indication of the standards and expectations held by the community?


Generally speaking, games get featured (here and elsewhere) because they have a certainly quality and/or feature that the webmasters felt deserved recognition. Some games get featured because they are 100% custom, coded from scratch, or what have you. In this game's case, it was the writing that the webmasters here felt deserved to be show cased. Keep in mind, that everyone is entertained by different things. Just because something doesn't suit your particular tastes, does not mean it's bad.

It's not as if this game was pulled from obscurity as some kind of cruel joke. It had great reviews from staff, had received recognition in the past, and those who did play it prior to 12/1/2010, really did enjoy it.
author=Feldschlacht IV
author=Magi
author=Magi
author=newdisciples
HOLY SHIT! This is beyond ridiculous!

Are you all really that lame? You need to shit all over someone's work just because we feel like someone else deserved it more? There are 12 months in a year, and unless you believe that 2012 is the end, there are a shitload more coming to us. There's still time for other great games to be featured.

It is NOT RMN's responsibility to market your game, it is yours! So don't pretend it's the Featured Project's fault you aren't getting the hits you want for your shitty ass games. If you aren't getting the downloads or attention you want, then it falls on YOU to fix the problem. Upload it to other sites, share your best images, whatever ya gotta do.

I've never seen so much whining and bitching in my life. What kind of a fucking jackass do you have to be to say this shit where the author can read it? Blaming one guy for a month worth of potential visitors you probably wouldn't have gotten anyway because your game oozes of shit and semen... If life is so bad that your only ray of hope is to get your game featured, you might want to take a hard look at yourself.

You really care about this community and wanna see it grow? Stop shitting on your fellow members' games!
I would really like this post to be permanently embedded in your profile page so every click will lambaste users with catatonia-inducing levels of heavy handed misinformation
That means it's by far the most profoundly stupid thing I have ever, ever read on this website; and there is an exceptional wealth of stupid here in this topic alone.
Yeah, and I mean I've said some stupid shit. If you can top the stupidest shit I've ever said in my career here than well that's really something!


I'm sticking up for the guy who's getting his game dumped on by a bunch of you. And I am convinced it is because most of you want your games featured instead. If that makes me stupid, not believing you, then fine. I'm stupid. At least I only dish it out when it's warranted.
Ciel
an aristocrat of rpgmaker culture
367
yeah so many people enjoyed it that's why there is an overwhelmingly negative response and dozens of topic pages across the forum discussing how poor a decision it was to feature it

author=Strangeluv
Now would have been a good time to use that ironhide facepalm lmao

still laughing at this post

author=newdisciples
And I am convinced it is because most of you want your games featured instead. If that makes me stupid, not believing you, then fine. I'm stupid.
First impressions are quite strong, you'd be surprised. It isn't because you would browse around most of them actually will. You want to sell the website, to show what it's worth, and if the featured game doesn't look interesting to them, then they'll just look elsewhere as they will think this is the standard of quality the site has.


And I get that. But do you really think this website will NEVERGETANOTHERVISITOREVERAGAINEVER because this game is featured?? Never mind the fact that there may be people who'd really enjoy this project.

If he has to skip it if he disagrees then why exactly have you even posted it?


Because if you're simply going to respond to a post with "lol stop trolling", then why waste your time? Especially if you aren't willing to expand on that?

Also, I wanted to come to this game's defense a bit because I feel the hostility is unwarranted and extreme. Not that I take the internet seriously, but if this was something that I had made, I would really be hurt. Constructive criticism is tremendously important.....but nothing in these five pages have been constructive, which means that there is not much the developer can take from this should he/she read it.
yeah so many people enjoyed it that's why there is an overwhelmingly negative response and dozens of topic pages across the forum discussing how poor a decision it was to feature it

There are some things you have to take into consideration.

- People will complain simply for the sport of it
- People won't like everything
- The venom is coming from people who have never played this, thus their criticisms are not entirely valid.

author=Ciel
yeah so many people enjoyed it that's why there is an overwhelmingly negative response and dozens of topic pages across the forum discussing how poor a decision it was to feature it


that didn't happen.
author=Yeaster
The venom is coming from people who have never played this
how would you know

also it's easy to tell how unfunny it is just by checking a few of the screens and no one has said this game has anything going for it but humour afaik so...
There is some extreme hate in this topic, guys. Let's calm it down.

author=Ciel
yeah so many people enjoyed it that's why there is an overwhelmingly negative response and dozens of topic pages across the forum discussing how poor a decision it was to feature it


Actually, at the time it was first featured, the game page's wall was filled with ONLY positive comments and the reviews were both 4/5. The staff had no reason to believe any of this would happen.