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I'm Sorry it Has to Come Down to This

  • Ratty524
  • 08/30/2016 07:05 PM
  • 23245 views
Before I begin, I'd like to give my thanks to those who provided tremendous support in the making of this project. Seiromem, Miracle, matthewac, you guys in particular helped shape the project into what it is now and I'm deeply thankful for your contributions, which is why it is a bit hard for me to say, right now, that I'm retiring this project unless someone else want's to see it live on. Keep reading.

I never realized this when I started, but making a true Pokemon fan game is a tremendous undertaking. You have the typical complications of crafting a lengthy RPG on top of the added effort that goes into making each Pokemon. It was a valuable learning experience that made me greatly appreciate the efforts that Game Freak puts into their own series.

I'm not cancelling this because of the burdens of making the project, though. Even with my admittingly slow, inconsistent pace and the fact that I was mainly in charge of everything that went on with this project, I was still going to pull through no matter how many times I missed my own set deadlines or even how many times the main series would constantly surpass this game on release dates.

The reason I'm dropping this project is because Pokemon RMN Version's core premise, unique to this particular game, is rooted in the appreciation deep respect I had for this community. In lieu of recent events, it's an appreciation I no longer have.

Between deep-rooted issues that creates a major divide within the community, and the complete indifference towards the wanton disrespect brought upon the community's more marginalized members, this is no longer a community I wish to support, at least until I see a major change with the site's administration. I'm going to probably still make a one-off post here and there, and still make smaller-scale games, but I'm no longer going to be doing it under RMN's name. This community has long passed the point of being fulfilling for me as a game developer, and the only reason I even drop by anymore is for the few people here that make it worthwhile. Suffice it to say, Pokemon RMN version went passed the level of being a burden, but now feels uncomfortable to work on as it's a product of a time where I naively excused many of the most embarrassing aspects of this community.

Before anyone rages, however, I'll at least extend you guys an offer as to not let the efforts of countless people go to complete waste. I'm willing to distribute the open-source version of this project to whomever is willing to continue it in my stead, because one of those people who will have no interest in continuing the project will be me. I'll maybe pitch in some more battle sprites of Pokemon or whatever is needed from time to time, but for the most part, I'm through with this.

Until then, this project is cancelled. Sorry about this.

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Seiromem
I would have more makerscore If I did things.
6375
Don't know what this is about. Whatever the reason, removing yourself from an environment you deem to be toxic to you can only be good.

Whoever picks this up, I'll be happy to continue 'helping' in the way I have been.
I'm so disappointed to hear this. I loved this project, and the smbx stuff you do. But do what you gotta do, are there any other sites like this that you contribute to?
Sad to hear that. I loved the concept of this project and am still amazed at the amount of work you and others have done ao far. I had a lot of fun working with everybody, drawing Pokemon and sharing ideas. I guess to me this project was how I wanted the community should be, working together with friends and having fun.

Thanks for your work, Ratty, I hope you'll find a community you can support
Sorry if I sound like a bastard, but you are a veteran in this site. You should not let things get to you. You are an amazing spriter, and a very understanding person. You need to learn how to adapt to changes. Time brings changes. You need to be strong and not give up but take a break.
Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
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author=jin69
Sorry if I sound like a bastard, but you are a veteran in this site. You should not let things get to you. You are an amazing spriter, and a very understanding person. You need to learn how to adapt to changes. Time brings changes. You need to be strong and not give up but take a break.

The "changes" you are describing are issues that have been going on for quite a while on this site, of which I'm recently becoming more aware of.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - that Ghandi person
Quotes will only get you so far.

Speaking from personal experience; When you're frustrated or depressed, the last thing you want to hear is an inspirational quote. They offer little of value and often seem to be an excuse to not do anything that might actually help.

Not trying to be mean or anything like. I just don't want anyone to think that quoting Ghandi is going to resolve Ratty's issues with the site.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
I didn't expect it would, but it does hold true here. If you want attitudes and behaviors to change, you have to lead by example and not let shit slide. There are tactful ways of pointing out when people are being jerks, and if something bigger is bothering you, make a thread about it. It's a forum; communication is all we have. Throwing out your keyboard in disgust doesn't help anybody.
author=Alichains
Quotes will only get you so far.

Speaking from personal experience; When you're frustrated or depressed, the last thing you want to hear is an inspirational quote. They offer little of value and often seem to be an excuse to not do anything that might actually help.

Not trying to be mean or anything like. I just don't want anyone to think that quoting Ghandi is going to resolve Ratty's issues with the site.

I like inspirational quotes when I'm down. >.< It's good advice either way, I think.
I found the post that set Ratty off:


author=halibabica
Phooey @ Ratty
At least we can all take some solace in the fact that you at least tried your very best and at least managed to produce a pretty solid looking demo since this project’s exemption, so at least this whole experience hasn’t gone all completely to waste. But still, the news of this being cancelled does suck to hear for all of those who have followed or participated in this project over the years, and it is a shame.

I’m not entirely sure what’s happened behind the scenes regarding the community that made you want to quit working on this and take a step back from everything (well, besides the whole Max McGee tirade and the whole XxXhelazz multiple account thing), as - I dunno - out of all the time that I’ve been here since returning to RMN this place is better than it’s ever been, so I’m not entirely sure what you mean by all that stuff above, but I guess I understand a little. I mean, personally, if this was me, I wouldn’t have quit this just because of a little community squabbling among a couple of members, but, hey, I’m not you and you’re not me and I fully respect your decision regardless.

Either way, hopefully you let all of this pass and come back to us full time again someday. Maybe you just need a little mini-vacation from this place for a little while, like I did, and come back after feeling fully refreshed and relaxed. Either way, just don’t take things so seriously on here and just have fun with what you’re doing, okay? It definitely would suck to lose you in the long run over something as stupid as this.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
IT'S ALL MY FAULT

MY RAMPANT NEGATIVITY
It's no ones fault. The only time I will give up on something is either I lost the passion to continue or something big happened like my laptop crashed or a family member died or personal issues. No offense, but I'm sure you do not know almost 99% of the people on here in real life. And I know you gave this place a bad criticism, but I have been every where and I have to admit this place is very well structured.Give up because you want to and on your own terms,and not cause you feel like almost everyone is crappy. But your mind is made up. No need for us to show you how much we care and support you. I admire your talents but no offense I do not admit the way your quitting. Losing passion is one thing, but giving up due to others is another. Good luck.
I've lost count of the number of times I quit RMN
Hali is right. This his view is something that seems appropriate for a much more serious matter, not something like minor drama. To be honest, it has crossed my mind a few times that I wondered if he's joking around.
That's too bad to hear but thanks for the amazing contributions you have provided thus far! I hope you find what you're looking for.
author=midnightzelda
That's too bad to hear but thanks for the amazing contributions you have provided thus far! I hope you find what you're looking for.


You're absolutely correct. It is shame, he's such a talented person.
CashmereCat
Self-proclaimed Puzzle Snob
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Thanks Ratty for initiating an exciting project for the community, thanks for all your hard work, and thanks for the fun times. Now hopefully we can find someone else to push this forward because it'd be a shame to see this die.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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You people do realize that trivialising the issues Ratty brought up and calling them minor drama is exactly the reason Ratty feels rmn has become too toxic to be around anymore...
To that point, it is better to just respect someone's feelings when it's obvious they're uncomfortable than to judge or doubt them.
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