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May 2020 Update #3

Hey guys!

I had fun last year, using my combat system and reproducing Suikoden 1. I had never shared it before so here it is!



Suikoden 2 Demo

No worries, I'm still working hard on the Demo. I did a couple of things , here is a little preview of one of the rune spell.



Stay tuned and stay safe!

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bro, your game is very awesome. i hope there is a special chapter/side stories when riou meet other tenkai star from all suikoden series (like lazlo, freyjadour, hugo, chris, geddoe, etc) and riou was able travel around grassland, harmonia, island nations, falena continent (although not all regions) :)
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
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I dunno about revisiting Grasslands, specifically. I kinda feel that if visiting 3 was possible, it would be limited. Probably Vinay Del Zexay. Kinda like how visiting the Toran Republic was limited to just Gregminster in 2, and revisiting the Island Nations was limited to Nirva Island in 5.

As for meeting the other Tenkai, Thomas wouldn't be installed as the master of Budehuc Castle as of this game's events. 2 never mentioned Lucia being a mother (that I can recall off-hand), but, my guess is that Hugo would be 13/14 during the events of 2? Chris's renown as Zexen's "Silver Maiden" may not have necessarily been as well-developed as it was in 3, but, she probably at least has stirrings of her future role as Knight-Captain. Geddoe is, well, Geddoe.

Freyjadour/Falena might be an interesting case to revisit. The events of 5 occurred about two years before 1. So, we're probably talking about four, maybe five years afterwards at the point this game would occur? Queen Lymsleia (probably) rejected the tradition of the Queen's husband being Commander of the Queen's Knights. Especially because of the escapades surrounding her own coronation.


Plus, one of the possible endings of 5 was that Freyjadour became the Commander. The "normal" ending has him roam the world with Georg. Under this circumstance, they probably separate at one point, as Georg is a recruit in 2, and Freyjadour is not.



I don't know if Lazlo would still be alive by the time 2 occurs. While it's certainly within the realm of possibility...


...especially if the Rune of Punishment was in it's "forgiveness" phase by the end of 4...


...the Rune of Punishment also has a peculiar tendency (desire?) to swap hosts/bearers.
author=Marrend
I dunno about revisiting Grasslands, specifically. I kinda feel that if visiting 3 was possible, it would be limited. Probably Vinay Del Zexay. Kinda like how visiting the Toran Republic was limited to just Gregminster in 2, and revisiting the Island Nations was limited to Nirva Island in 5.

As for meeting the other Tenkai, Thomas wouldn't be installed as the master of Budehuc Castle as of this game's events. 2 never mentioned Lucia being a mother (that I can recall off-hand), but, my guess is that Hugo would be 13/14 during the events of 2? Chris's renown as Zexen's "Silver Maiden" may not have necessarily been as well-developed as it was in 3, but, she probably at least has stirrings of her future role as Knight-Captain. Geddoe is, well, Geddoe.

Freyjadour/Falena might be an interesting case to revisit. The events of 5 occurred about two years before 1. So, we're probably talking about four, maybe five years afterwards at the point this game would occur? Queen Lymsleia (probably) rejected the tradition of the Queen's husband being Commander of the Queen's Knights. Especially because of the escapades surrounding her own coronation.


Plus, one of the possible endings of 5 was that Freyjadour became the Commander. The "normal" ending has him roam the world with Georg. Under this circumstance, they probably separate at one point, as Georg is a recruit in 2, and Freyjadour is not.



I don't know if Lazlo would still be alive by the time 2 occurs. While it's certainly within the realm of possibility...


...especially if the Rune of Punishment was in it's "forgiveness" phase by the end of 4...


...the Rune of Punishment also has a peculiar tendency (desire?) to swap hosts/bearers.


yeah, i agree to you. To meet Lazlo is also very impossible, because the Rune of Punishment effect is transferring to other users. Except, if related to the best ending Suikoden 4. Most likely the opportunity to meet Lazlo. (Rune of Punishment still in his hand).


And, Riou met with main characters from other Suikoden series (especially Suikoden 3). for me personally, meeting with Geddoe is very possible. because if it is associated with the ending Suikoden 2. Geddoe originally has a True Lightning Rune in his hand.

Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
21781
I was thinking about my last post here, and I was like, "Wait a sec, didn't Suikoden 5 happen ten years before 1?" Welp.


As for the comment about coming across Geddoe, Suikosource figures he wanders for 40 or so years, then joins the Harmonian Southern Frontier Defense Force. Meaning that he'd be a mercenary during the events of 2, taking whatever jobs strike him. However, there is also the point that Bishop Sasari makes an appearance in 2, and he could have brought along some Harmonian mercenaries with him. Possibly, this could include Geddoe's unit. As to who that unit consists of, I believe Jacques was "new" during 3. However, Ace, Joker, and Queen could, theoretically, be in his unit.


*Edit: However, all this talk aside, I also want to be realistic about the possible costs of including more characters/plcaes into the game. For example, I'm not aware of a 2-D sprite sheet drawn in the style of Suikoden 2 that this game could use for Geddoe, should WorldDoubleFace choose to have him in the game. One has to be made, or commissioned. To be perfectly honest, I think the game has enough features/characters as-is, and including more characters/places/features would induce feature creep, and slow development down more than is already happening necessary.
I actually did an entire Suikoden II sprite sheet for Geddoe years back, but I just looked and cannot seem to find it. It's probably on another hard drive somewhere in my house. If I do end up locating it, I'll pass it along to you.
why are you using legion saga 3 music? :thinking:
author=Darken
why are you using legion saga 3 music? :thinking:

??? All soundtracks and sound effects are from Suikoden, no exception.
author=WCouillard
I actually did an entire Suikoden II sprite sheet for Geddoe years back, but I just looked and cannot seem to find it. It's probably on another hard drive somewhere in my house. If I do end up locating it, I'll pass it along to you.


yeah, maybe you can contributed your ideas to WorldDoubleFace for include Geddoe's Suikoden II sprite sheet in the Suikoden A New Destiny game (maybe part of the territory of the grassland / harmonia region (include world map, town, or mountains. etc)
author=Darken
why are you using legion saga 3 music? :thinking:


Legion Saga games were heavily inspired from Suikoden games, and use a lot of the music from them.
You stealing someone else's stolen ripped assets? Gorsh, some people have no manners!

(Great updates dude, keep up the good work!).
author=wedawisnoe
author=WCouillard
yeah, maybe you can contributed your ideas to WorldDoubleFace for include Geddoe's Suikoden II sprite sheet in the Suikoden A New Destiny game (maybe part of the territory of the grassland / harmonia region (include world map, town, or mountains. etc)
Yeah why not, who knows if i could not place him somewhere :P
author=WorldDoubleFace
author=wedawisnoe
author=WCouillard
yeah, maybe you can contributed your ideas to WorldDoubleFace for include Geddoe's Suikoden II sprite sheet in the Suikoden A New Destiny game (maybe part of the territory of the grassland / harmonia region (include world map, town, or mountains. etc)
Yeah why not, who knows if i could not place him somewhere :P
Yeah, i agree with you. If Geddoe is added to this game as a side story, it might get even more interesting. moreover he has a True Lightning Rune. The name of your game is also Suikoden: A New Destiny. it doesn't matter if the aspect of the story strays slightly from Suikoden 2. As you wrote in your game description: P

And, for the concept of maps, cities in Suikoden 3 (but in the style of Suikoden 2). a few years ago I saw the person who made the concept. He is Riley Crane (previously, he wanted to make the Suikoden project: Beyond The Badlands. But somehow the project stopped in the middle of the road). Maybe you can ask him if he still has the map concept or not.

Here are his facebook contacts: https://www.facebook.com/riley.crane.58
Marrend
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The game is literally about hypothetical situations. So the discussions on those "what ifs" are fine. I just don't want to include so many additional of those hypothetical situations (whether WorldDoubleFace has considered them or not) into the game that would induce a delay of this game's completion.


I guess what I'm ultimately saying is: So many fan-games are never completed because they are too over-ambitious about what they want to do. Please don't make this game one of them.
author=Marrend
The game is literally about hypothetical situations. So the discussions on those "what ifs" are fine. I just don't want to include so many additional of those hypothetical situations (whether WorldDoubleFace has considered them or not) into the game that would induce a delay of this game's completion.


I guess what I'm ultimately saying is: So many fan-games are never completed because they are too over-ambitious about what they want to do. Please don't make this game one of them.


Yes, I know. I just give an opinion. because this game is still in the "demo" stage incomplete. Not wrong, right, for example WorldDoubleFace might agree with my opinion?

Incidentally, I am also a fan of the Suikoden series. Although there are my opinions that are not included in this game, I am also okay. hehe :)

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