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Is the fact that my anti-virus software forced me to delete this game a bad sign?

  • pianotm
  • 11/14/2016 03:34 AM
  • 3123 views
Game: Party 2

Developer: Partytime

Unfortunately, this blew up on me before I had a chance to grab screencaps.

Story: You've gotten a gift for Ellie. It's a--

From what I can gather, you play a girl trapped in house, kept there by some kind of demonic entity. Apparently, the point is to play the game over and over again, more frightening things happening with each play through. Unfortunately, I was only able to get through twice before my anti-virus insisted that the application was directly tampering with my operating system and blew the application to kingdom come, and let's be frank; my anti-virus wasn't wrong. When you reach the second playthrough, the game starts playing with your system processes, such as giving you an error window saying "I SEE YOU", and then opening a text file in notepad saying "I HATE YOU". Now, you can say that these were simply files in the game folders that were being accessed via script, and that would be true, but if that's ALL they were doing, my AVG wouldn't have gone Rambo and auto deleted the game (at least it was nice enough to let me know it wasn't giving me a choice.). As interesting as this game is, this is a huge strike against it.

The story is intriguing and the creep factor is excellent. I find it very distressing that I couldn't enjoy this game as much as I would have liked to.

Gameplay: Very simple. You look for things, and there isn't really anything to find except for normal household items. When you find certain things, such as the bear or the note, you trigger an insta-death that leads you to the continue screen. From there, you move on to the next part of the game. The insta-deaths aren't really insta-deaths, but a transition to the next playthrough; sort of a Groundhog's Day formula.

Graphics: Standard RTP.

Music: The title screen plays a piano piece that tricks the player into thinking he or she is playing a simple fluff game. Once in the game, there is no party, and there is no birthday cake. Once you get into the game, you start with silence, and have the choice to play a song on the record player. I only ever got the chance to hear Paper Doll.

Conclusion: What I saw was interesting and well made, but I've never had my anti-virus software react that aggressively to a program before. I don't think it would have done anything. It was probably just messing with settings to use fourth wall freak outs to scare me, but I won't take that chance on a second download, and I can't recommend you take that chance the first time. As much as I'd like to say that the game is worth playing, I simply can't recommend installing any program that triggers anti-virus software like that. If you want to play a game that could possibly trigger a nuclear protocol in your anti-virus, that's entirely your business. It has, at the very least, taught me to be a bit more careful about what I download from the game pages in the future. What I saw probably would have gotten a three and a half out of me. An inability to finish the game coupled with the reason for my inability to finish it drops this down to a two. Now, Partytime did contact me because he wanted a review that counteracted Marrend's low score. I apologize for that, but these are all things that affect the game experience, and I found the impact to be quite negative.

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Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
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The error windows of "I SEE YOU", and it's ilk, are probably produced via a "mgsbox" command. I use that feature for debug purposes, but, I kinda can see how it could be interpreted as an error window, and otherwise used to freak people out.

Though, now that you mention it, AVG triggered for me when I played this, but, I was somehow able to ignore it. Maybe not the smartest move, but, I've done a full scan after removing the game just to be on the safe side.
Zakariya
Every misdeed has its own punishment, and every good deed has its reward.
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author=Marrend
Though, now that you mention it, AVG triggered for me when I played this, but, I was somehow able to ignore it. Maybe not the smartest move, but, I've done a full scan after removing the game just to be on the safe side.

I got no warning from avast! (at first) about it when I tried it out myself, not until I started up a scan. After reading these posts, I was pessimistic to the point where I played this game on a virtual machine. :\

After running a boot-time scan, it stated that the game's files were malware. However, I don't believe this is the case, though I was concerned it could damage my PC (which is why I used the virtual machine mentioned above).

As for the game, I really like Party 2. XD

It's definitely the freakiest RPG Maker game I've played so far. The messages and static made it feel like something from a creepypasta story.
Aww, thank you zakariya!

I appreciate you enjoying the game, it's a shame that all these technicalities are bringing it down :(

The game has no viruses what so ever, everything strange it does it does to freak you out, nothing it does can harm you at all. Many have played and none have reported anything, you may even disect all of the files (The game's not encrypted for technical purposes) and you will find nothing malicious, and it is a shame that people think it is :(. The antivirus most likely states this because party creates text files (To manage where you are in the game) and deletes them (most likely what made the anti-virus freakout)

Avg is finicky, I reccomend disabling it to continue playing, and re-enabling it afterward, because again, it is a shame that many like it, but something technical always stumps the reviews somehow :( . Although I do wish that since you had an error that no one else seemed to have that you would have given it no rating rather than a low one, but it's your review, and if you believe that the game is deserving of this rating, so be it.

But, I'm happy you enjoyed what you could, but I don't know what is wrong with yours over others who have played it and had no problem.

Oh well.

Thanks for reviewing, and if you choose to follow these steps, I hope you revise your review!
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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What do you guys want me to say or do?

@Partytime, to be perfectly honest, you have no idea what your program is or isn't going to do. Most viruses are not maliciously programmed software; they're program errors caused by conflicting settings in the system. You cannot predict that your program won't cause a problem for anyone. Telling someone to ignore it and just go with it is not how a report like this should be dealt with. Did you know that you can cause viruses just by having more than one anti-virus program in your machine? It's true that no one anti-virus program covers everything, but you have to make sure that if you add any anti-malware or anti-spyware software to your machine, it interacts well with your main anti-virus software. You've created an application that interacts with other applications on a person's computer. You may know how it will interact with those applications, but you have no idea what other software those other applications might interacting with. Nearly every program uses notepad for some reason or other (usually as an archive).

@Zakariya, I also like Party 2. This is regrettable but I can't ignore the problem I had. I've had too much experience with viruses.
InfectionFiles
the world ends in whatever my makerscore currently is
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It really may just be harmless but I assure you people who get warnings and anti-virus software alerts are more than likely going to stop playing and delete your game.

Rpgmaker games are dime a dozen and I promise you the majority of users who get a malicious X detected message of any kind will stop and never play that game again.
@InfectionFiles I understand, I placed a large "This program may be detected as a virus" warning on the game page.

@pianotm The game opens notepad, no existing notepads, it creates it's own notepad documents to open. It does not interact with any existing files on the user's computer. The game uses built in rpg maker commands to open notepad, it doesn't change notepad at all, it simply uses it. If you installed the game, played it, and deleted it, there would be absolutely no way for you to tell that it was there.

Party is completely self contained, it exists in it's folder and that is all it knows. Everything it does it does to it's own folder.

For example, of the 417 people who played the game on my gamejolt page no one has complained of it being a virus or doing something malicious/damaging to their computer

Although, if you are worried, you could do what zakariya did and use a VM, but it is not necessary.
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