CIEL'S PROFILE

Your game is cool dude, keep working on it!

updated my last post if you didn't see it. btw all those replies on tft's blog were the same people bumping it with spam posts in hopes of getting it noticed. and most of the people doing that only saw it because he linked it in IRC.

author=Solitayre

author=Ciel
Ciel's design doc

That all sounds pretty cool, Ciel. I like alchemy-based combat systems that actually have some thought behind them rather than just being "have item, use ability" or something arbitrarily implemented for the sake of imposing some sort of crafting system.

It sounds pretty complicated with a high learning curve, however, though I guess that was kind of the point. I am kind of getting MtG vibes from some of the abilities, was that a source of inspiration?

If you wish to promote this kind of detailed game design in the community, you should make a game profile and use the blogs so you can discuss it more in-depth and share what you feel are positive ideas with the community to learn from. That is the most effective way for you to promote your ideals, in my humble opinion. You cannot expect people to magically learn "better" and start making "better games" without positive examples to learn from. I think you'd see more positive effects from this kind of activity than just posting about how hopeless everything is on the forums.

I'm glad you like the character design, I'm pretty proud of it since it took like 30+ hours of straight thinking to complete. I'm not sure what MtG is so I don't think I was inspired by it. If anything I am inspired by the greatest video game ability design in the world done by a team of 10 Swedish guys in a game called Bloodline Champions.

Unfortunately Craze already has a pretty good stranglehold on the design aspect here, so most everyone is interested in making slot machine simulators in RPG form, wherein random chance is present to such an extent that correlation between success/failure and the player's input is heavily marginalized.

For more on this I'll link a post I made on MD. I didn't make any such post here because it would instantly be pushed into oblivion by 'updated charset today' blogs, a design issue several staff members and the site creator agreed was problematic and discouraging to those wishing to contribute thoughtful content, but 1+year later is still mysteriously unresolved.

author=Fallen-Griever

<Magi> it isn't so much the site that we criticize
<Magi> as it is the members
<Magi> well, select members
<Magi> such as f-g and lockez
<Ciel> the overarching design and attitude trends in the userbase
<Kef> i only trash rmn because it's outright pathetic to see a 25 year old make a game like tales of zoolander or whatever
<Ciel> we stopped discussing flaws with the actual site about the time it became clear you weren't interested in fixing them
<Ciel> obviously our intention was to be mean and terrible and not to help
<Kef> the constructive criticism stopped when it was clear no one wanted to hear advice

Massive success :)

Obviously, writing tonnes of reviews and articles and tutorials is bad for the site and the community...

what is this lol. in the actual context of this discussion, wip was saying 'you all criticize rmn too much'. and we were telling him that, since there was no longer hope for the actual mechanical aspects of the site to be addressed (since he was the coder and left) our primary 'beef' was with the attitudes/ignorance/design shortcoming present in some aspects of the user base. i.e. legitimate concerns with the overarching direction of the site insofar as the user base was concerned. 'obviously our intention was to be mean' line is clearly sarcastic, referring the line i typed just before that regarding the times when we 'criticized the (actual) site'. the only reason i have on occasion been mean to you in particular is because you very very aggressively say very ignorant and aggressive/mean things, as indicated (boasted) by your user title. people like you occasionally need a little slap in the face to let you know you're behaving in a ridiculous fashion, but i guess you don't have the self awareness to get that.

kef is actually just a troll though

author=rcholbert
That is your problem Ciel. You have been fabricating my motives for my actions out of pure speculation, but when yours are presently clearly you claim they are not relevant to your actions. I have never spied on anyone and the few individuals who gave me the evidence only provided me with it when you went on a character assassination trip.

I don't need to speculate on your motives, they are clear from your actions. Your suspicious demands for silence and rampant censorship leaves little room for interpretation and puts the burden of proof on you. On the other hand, however, you need to use quotes without timestamps or context to support your allegations. The logs as you presented them suggest that Strangeluv attempted to rally everyone to shitpost as a form of malicious attack. In truth it was a reaction to actions you took that were considered unjustified - a form of protest against an inexplicable demand for absolute silence. Everything that has transpired has been such a reaction.

We are changing our organization name to #TheReturners (jk)

Anyone can claim the opposing party's position is disingenuous using out-of-context evidence to support their accusation. It is ultimately up to the individual to determine who is being genuine and who is not.