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Emo Require: Do RPGs need a story?

author=LockeZ
So Emanzi, you admit to generally not enjoying RPG gameplay/combat, then? So then do you make RPGs because...?
1) There are specific types of RPG gameplay/combat you do like?
2) You are stuck in 1997 and think RPGs are the only type of game that can have a story?
3) You want to turn the genre upside-down and make one that *is* fun to you?

Or am I misunderstanding, and your point isn't "I dislike the core mechanics of RPGs and think they're inferior to other types of games" but rather just "Most RPGs are bad and don't utilize the system well"? Because, well, no one's going to claim that second point is wrong, 90% of anything is garbage. But I assume everyone's goal here is to make games that are better than the status quo, yeah? We're talking about the games you're making yourselves here. So unless you think your own game's gameplay falls into that category as well, "most RPGs have gameplay that sucks" not a relevant point.

Lol, I'm number 3, I want to turn the genre upside down and make one that is just fun, enjoyable and most of all unique.
I never said most rpg's are bad or inferior though ( they are my favourite genres but I prefer modern day rpgs like red dead redemption, mass effect, fable e.t.c and as I said pop 90's games, can't say I really experienced the 90's since all I play is whats talked about so I'm not a true old school gamer after all I'm born in 93 which means by the time I could think about what I prefered e.t.c it was probably already 2000 or 1999 )
Just that they at times rpg's are a bit too status quo which is final fantasy fan game number 989, I've seen too many games where by the storyline is too typical, the battle system is standard but been done like a million times ( its o.k since some of us including me are not scripters but it would be better if the're some tweaks to it not all the same ff side view or dragon quest text and picture style).
I can't say much about this since you'll all be like "yeah whatever let me see you make a game"...well I am.At the least it's nothing typical and doesn't come close to the 90% category...Actually at least some of the games here are not as typical, thats why I love this site. It's okay to start with what you know but it gets anoying when all I see are typical rpg's everywhere... actually thats good it means original games stand out more.

author=eplipswich
The times have changed. RPGs of the past have great gameplay, but only decent story, which doesn't matter, because gameplay alone is what propels players to play on.

Things like story, graphics, sounds, music etc are all really secondary and bonus effects. The core element of a RPG (Role-Playing Game) is to play as a role of a character, and you control him to do loads of stuff like leveling, wandering around the world etc, achieving the character's objectives etc. That is what a true RPG should at least have. The rest are all secondary but are "icings to the cake" to enhance the taste of an RPG.

That said, I play RPGs for the story really, but most of the time, the gameplay is just as per typical.

I have to agree with this.

Also if the game-play is typical its fine if the story is intresting and vise versa. Its always best to have a perfect balance, that would make for something memorable.

P.S Great thread craze, this is a really fun debate!

Yo, what's up?

author=tardis
tell us all about boat camp mog regale us with your tales


YES!

Yo, what's up?

author=Feldschlacht IV
Hey guys, how you all been? I graduated boot camp a little while ago, and now I'm a full fledged member of the US Navy. Shit's pretty tight.

Dude MOG thats HARDCORE!!!
Welcome back solider

Emo Require: Do RPGs need a story?

author=Darken
author=Craze
All I'm hearing is that "RPG gameplay is teh sux, the solution is to put more money into FMVs."
What exactly did you expect from making this topic? Everyone to say they really like dungeon crawlers?

I hate dungeon crawlers -_-
but thats not to say they are bad rpg's, its just a matter of my personal taste like I prefer open worlds and exploration but when its exploring a dungeon fighting countess enemies in some strategic battle system I go meh... lets go play some shooting games and have more fun. RPG's without stories and dungeon crawlers can be great but such games really need something extra like a free world and a great character creation system and fun battle system. Even the most grind-core dungeon crawler with a beautiful battle system can outdo the best written story game wise but I still hate dungeon crawlers because I'm not an old school rpg fan, I like SNES and only a few pop games like Earthbound, Chrono's Trigger ( never bothered with Final Fantasy since its soo popular not really a cult hit like Mother/Earthbound ).

All I'm saying is sometimes its impossible to classify what makes a good rpg since everyone has their own perspective of whats fun or essential for rpg's. I just like fun games, rpgs. shooters whatever as long as they are not too run of the mill and are generally enjoyable...

RMN Improvements

author=Space_Monkey
author=ankylo
The little rmn logo in the upper left hand corner now takes you back to the front page when you click on it.
woo! was hoping for this.


cool, noticed just now.

it's a bit much to ask but I would like a basic chat engine so I can spend more time goofin' around here than working.

What did you do today?

I woke up at 1:00 PM and did pure maths integration and differentiation and the binomial expansion for like 4 hours then played RED DEAD REDEMPTION untill like 1 hours from now...
I'm still a little dizzy lol...

What Videogames Are You Playing Right Now?

I'm REALLY getting into RED DEAD REDEMPTION lately!

こんにちわ、Bonjour, Hello

Oh Its O.K then, I thought you where trying to show off or something, I agree It's not easy to learn a language thats entirely different altogether, sorry If I sounded a bit pissed their, Katakana is used for foreign words so I used Hiragana for Japanese but I was a bit confused when you notified me on something thats obvious to me. It felt like an insult so I apologize.
Well that aside I hope you enjoy RMN, I'm sure you'll be able to learn anything if you just set your mind to it no matter how difficult it seems at first. I also love rpg maker as in future I'm seriously pursuing a career in game development and design ( design preferably ) it seems we have alot in common so hopefully we can set this aside and be friends.

こんにちわ、Bonjour, Hello

yeah I know its hiragana just threw in the vocabulary I was learning. I said I was learning Katakana just the letters not yet Kanji, sorry for the mix up.

Well since you're so confident why didn't you answer?

What makes you laugh?

when I want to laugh I look for Kentona's recent posts.