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Your behavior in the Karen sprite thread was atrocious and everyone's criticism of it is valid.
Don't be rude. Treat others how you'd like to be treated. It's not hard to be polite. Pretty simple 'basic human decency' stuff. In short, don't say things like this...
author=KrimsonKatt
I thought everyone knew. I guess your the type of guy who's always living under a rock, huh?
I'm going to speak up a bit here, but this might be long winded. I don't normally do this, but I think it's important. I'm gonna speak openly, honestly, and harshly, because I don't know if anyone ever truly has with you before. I hope you hear my heart in this.

So first off, no, not everyone hates you here. I don't hate you. Honestly, I actually think you're capable of incredible things, and I believe you could have an incredible impact in the people in your life. I believe in you, and genuinely think you are a good person at heart. I do believe, however, that you have displayed tendencies of entitlement and self-righteousness that I have very little tolerance for. Those kinds of tendencies are incredibly self-serving, and (here's the blunt and honest truth) won't get you anywhere in life. Anyone who's told you that you can have anything you want in life without paying a price for it has lied to you. Nothing in life comes free. You want to be respected? A person of influence? An impact player? You gotta work for it. That doesn't come without hard work and sacrifice.

Now, I personally think that you can achieve just about anything you set out to do in life, barring physical limitations and unequal opportunity. But everyone who's ever achieved their goals did so by having complete and total ownership of them. Committing themselves wholly and completely to them. Working for them. They weren't just handed the results because they felt they deserved them.

I think that self-serving tendencies are not necessarily your fault, and I hold no hatred or disdain towards you for having them. I think you're the product of a generation that had no idea what to do with themselves, because we hamstrung it from the get go. Debt is through the roof, cost of living has followed that trend, and now it's all too common to have either separated parents, fatherless homes, or absentee parents who work all day and can't devote their full resources to raising their kids. So what are their influences? Media? School? Government? All entities that promise to take care of you, but lack the power to truly do so. So we have this mindset that things will be provided for us without cost, and the harsh reality is that life doesn't work that way.

I think you have incredible potential. I think you can absolutely have great friendships and relationships, and I'd even be happy to be one of them. But it'll take three things, in my opinion. First, it'll take a humble spirit. Recognizing that maybe the way you were raised isn't actually benefiting your future, and that there are things to learn from people who've gone before you. Second, it'll take a willingness to change, and personally grow. Actually applying the teaching of the people that want to help you. And finally, it'll take hard, honest effort. Swallowing pride, and getting comfortable with being uncomfortable. If you can do that, I think you'll live an incredible life, but if you can't, you'll always fall victim to emotions running your life, and your life will be dictated by others opinions of you. I want you to live well, and be a strong person of character and integrity, but it's up to you whether or not you choose that for yourself.

My goal here is to speak over you in a way that I don't think many people have. I really think we need to believe in people more, love them more, but also hold them to a higher standard. I hope that's what you get out of this. If I've offended you, that's actually not a bad thing. Feel it. Ask yourself why. And ask what you can do about it. I believe in you Kat. I really hope you believe in yourself.

TLDR: No I don't hate you, but I don't tolerate selfish and disrespectful behavior. But I also don't hold it against you.
You had it coming. When you talk rudely to other people, they will take offense and fire back. Just because it's the Internet doesn't mean you're infallible. If you want to make friends here or anywhere else, learn some discipline and be kind. There's no shame in admitting that you've made mistakes and will continue to make them, just like everyone else. Learn from your experiences and move on. It's not that bad.
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
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Myron, Fallout 2
Redding? Town full o' gold diggers. Mordino wants to control it all. So he comes to me in his wheezing voice and says, "Myron, Myron, make me something that'll give me Redding." And I say, "Okay, what timeframe we looking at?" He goes, of course, "Yesterday." Crime lords. Want everything done fast and sloppy. At least they don't have a marketing department.
Mirak
Stand back. Artist at work. I paint with enthusiasm if not with talent.
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I know i'll be wasting precious minutes of my time on a reply that won't even be read but I basically agree with everything Unity said, particularly these two parts:

author=Unity
It all stems from a massive sense of entitlement from KK, where they want things free, fast and without questions or compensation. Most of us at this point just don't respond to their threads for this very same reason.


This is one of the reasons I didn't even bother responding to your weird "@Mirak" thing. On one hand because I don't really know you, so I'd expect at least a polite "please" at the end of a request for what would have been an obviously unpaid and uncompensated thing, but mostly and more importantly, because of this next bit:

author=Unity
They view the very people who have made essential building blocks of their own projects as bad people who should be taken down a peg! This is how they treat people who have been doing good work for the community for years!


I'm not sure if after your angry bouts of rambling you immediately forget it happened, or attempt to act like it never did happen, but I do remember how you've lambasted plugin creators & graphic artists for monetizing their work in the past, something I happen to do as well. And I particularly remember with annoyance that one time you got banned from RMN discord for literally throwing bile and shit (all of it unhinged falsities) at everybody. This, amongst many other memorable (in the worst way) Krimsonkatt "bits".

You make it very easy to dislike you.

On the off chance you do want to reply to this please don't bother adding justifications on why you behave the way you do or any family history or things like that, because to me it's clear you're just some dumb kid who's transitioning from teen to adulthood while smashing your head against rocks here and there which I can sort of sympathize with, and I wonder if all you need is just a couple more years before the dumb wears off, but for the time being you are definitely not a very pleasant person to talk to or engage with and I seriously can't help but wonder if you were snapping your fingers when you "asked me without asking" to make your karen sprite.

Finally, the main reason why I ignored the thread, and Unity's best bit:

author=Unity
The whole summary of this very thread is "user wanted someone to make something for them for a game they are already late on delivering, who got impatient immediately and just made the thing anyway." The literal best response is just to ignore them, because they'll be forced to make it themselves or live without it.


Look at that, I ignored it and you made your own Karen sprite, which looks even better than what I'd have done for you for free. So once again you demonstrate you have the raw potential to be able to achieve your own vision with your own hands, you'd just rather prefer not to do it.

What this tells me is that Unity is right, and that the best way to incentivize you to get your hands dirty in the development process and perhaps gain some perspective that helps you understand why people charging money for stuff doesn't automatically make them "evil" is to simply ignore your threads requesting help of that sort. It may end up doing the opposite of course, you might become even more bitter and finally step on the shit pedal hard enough for you to get banned from the forums too which would be quite sad. If like you said you're being banned from all these venues, maybe it's time to do some introspection and check yourself before you wreck yourself.

It's not fun at all to have a bad standing in a community full of kind people who help each other, and it's even worse when you try to come back after you've burned bridges, just ask anybody who has had an "i'm leaving forever" meltdown and came back later to any community, the sudden uncomfortable and cautious silence when you reopen the door is not a pleasant feeling at all. Rebuilding is even less pleasant. So don't fucking burn bridges before you cross them, and specially not when you're standing halfway at the crossing.
unity
You're magical to me.
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Try using a bit of empathy and put yourself in other people's shoes. If there was a user on RMN who had these traits:

1) Wanted things from other users, for free, and wasn't even willing to wait a day for them

2) Insulted and belittled people who were trying to help them

3) Was only interested in their own games, to the point where they'd advertise them in community projects, while being completely uninterested and/or dismissive of other people's projects and efforts

4) Made long rants talking about hating certain people who provide assets for the community, or even just bashing all of RMN itself

5) Was banned from multiple sites and discord servers for bad behavior and/or shit-talking the people who ran those sites/discord servers

6) And above all others, seems to lack kindness and the base level of empathy to treat other human beings how they would want to be treated

...Would you like that user? Would you want that user in your community? That's what you need to consider when you wonder why people here seem to dislike you.

Now, knowing you, you probably want to argue against all these points (and probably will), but these are behaviors you've demonstrated over and over, and you are the only one who thinks that you're in the right. Have you considered why that is?

I don't hate you. I hate your behavior and how you treat others, and I think RMN and other sites would be better off without someone who acts like this.

You can either continue to act like everything is unfair or you can actually try to change and better yourself. Before you post things, you can look at them and ask "Am I acting with kindness, am I being reasonable" and not posting if either of those is untrue.

Or you can continue acting like a self-entitled asshole. It's your choice. But at the end of the day, nothing will change unless you change how you act.
KrimsonKatt
Gamedev by sunlight, magical girl by moonlight
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When I told Marrend that he was "living under a rock," I was joking. It was meant to be sarcastic, and was not serious at all. I even pointing this out in an edit I made.

I'm sorry for being rude in the past, I really am. Strack, thank you for your kind words. They really mean a lot to me and I'll take them to heart. As for the unrelated comment of "raging at plugin devs for monetizing their work," that was years ago and my outlook has changed, especially since I have more income now than I did in the past to afford these type of things. And Mirak, thank you for complimenting my custom karen sprite. It definitely helps boost my confidence when I heard a skilled sprite artist tell me that my work is better than his.

But to mirak once again, no, I do not hate the people who contributed to my game. I greatly respect their work and how they contributed. Especially to the people who contributed directly, like bendyizzt who helped me create the escape sequence in Meteo Chronicles. (which I'm greatly thankful for. Thank you BendyIzzt!) I'm one of the most staunch supporters of Aekaschics even after he left for over 5 months, thanks to his uber-cheap patreon at only $1 a month and amazing supportive community, not to mention having some of the highest quality battlers ever and constantly allowing varied fan suggestions.

99% of my game is made by myself, from the story to the mapping to the dialogue to the databasing, even some of the graphics. The only things that aren't me are the plugins, the RTP, and the OST. (which largely consists of rips) All the plugins are bought officially, I own the license to all of them. I didn't pirate a single one. Is not liking yanfly this much of a sin? Am I not allowed to criticize him just because he's made some cool stuff? IMO it doesn't really seem fair and I'm sick of all this white knighting for some random guy none of you even know.

So basically the lesson learned from all this? Have more self confidence and make everything yourself, because relying on other people is a waste of time and money. I want a plugin made so badly? I learn code for free online over 6 months and use it to create the plugin of my dreams instead of relying on other people to make one for me. I want a specific sprite made? Make it myself instead of waiting for one of my polls to go through on Aekashic's patreon or paying #50 for a commission. I'm sorry if I came across as selfish, and I've learned from all of this to never expect anything from anyone else for free, because everyone wants something in return and you just have to deal with it.

If you want something for free, you have to do it yourself. No exceptions. All this really comes down to is laziness and the lack of self confidence. Throughout my life I was always taught that good people always do good things for other people for free out of the kindness of their heart. From cartoons, from the bible, to my parents teachings. But now I've learned that that isn't how the world works. The world is cruel and very few people are willing to work for free, even though everything I've done so far for all of the communities I've been a part of have been free because I lack confidence in my work to be paid. No one is a "good person" as I was taught, and to survive in this world you can't be a "good person" either. You can't just give out things for free and get things from others for free, there has to be a price to everything. The problem is that money is not accessible, especially for younger people. Every single thing costs money, but if you have no money or no easy way to earn money you cannot survive. It is a cruel, twisted world we live in. I've finally realized that now.

As for unity's complaints, I have a response for every one. I do not mean to be rude and condensing to any one of them, I just want to give my side of the story. And for unity's overall question, yes for all but 2 and 6, which don't count since 6 is blatantly false and 2 is a heavy exaggeration.

1: I wanted things for others for free because of my past twisted worldview believing that good people will always provide things for other people solely out of the goodness of their heart. I've now learned that 99% of humanity does not share the same morality I do, and requires a price for every action. Nothing in this world is free. I've finally learned that.

2: I don't think I insult people who try to help me very often. It's usually a misunderstanding on either side. With Marrend in the Karen thread, I was simply joking around and being sarcastic, which Marrend treated as being serious. Other instances are similar, though I don't really remember any of them.

3: I'm not only interested in my own games. I'm just not a fan of RPG Maker games in general. I love making them, but I'm not the biggest fan of playing through them. Most of the games I've played haven't been the best, so I'm pretty resistant when it comes to playing other people's RPG Maker games, especially when there is so many other games I can play instead. I came to this site to share my own creations, not necessarily to engaged in other's.

It's similar with me and reading. I love to write, but I heavily dislike reading. It's kind of a paradox. As for "advertising my games in community projects," the only one I can remember is the recent and currently ongoing underwater quilt in which I included a tongue and cheek nod to some of my games in my section of the event. It was not meant to be malicious or self-serving, just a funny little reference, a reference that basically got no criticism on the actual page. This is the first time I've really heard a complaint about it anywhere.

As for my other "community projects," event games I've submitted, Lost Chronicles, Crypt Challenge Classic, Crypt Challenge DX, and Beyond the End were all original concepts and not meant to self promote any other project. Just because all of my projects are connected doesn't mean that when I submit something to a community project that relates to my games I'm self promoting. Another user also posted a sign as part of their post on the quilt which said "hail satan," which no one really cared about either. I don't know if it was a attempt to troll me but safe to say it doesn't affect me in the slightest.

4: Yes, I made long rants bashing Yanfly. But IMO Yanfly and his company is kind of shady. My criticism of him is not automatically wrong because he's a talented developer of assets which he provides to the community. (for a hefty price) Anyone should be free to criticize anyone they choose without being silenced. Everyone relentlessly defending Yanfly is kind of getting on my nerves. I still have supported the guy in the past, but everyone needs to stop white knighting for Yanfly just because he makes some cool assets. No one is beyond criticism. As for insulting the RMN staff, I don't think I ever did that? I've made jokes that "liberty hates me," but that's just about it.

5: I was banned from the official RPG Maker Forums for pretty justifiable reasons, first for getting into an argument about religion relating to Persona 5 when religion is a banned topic (unless it relates to your game) and a second time for spreading slander about KADOKAWA. (who is still shady don't get me wrong but isn't running a sex trafficking ring. That's just insanity that was fueled by my own delusions, fiction, both my own and others, mashing with the real world in my crazed brain, not reality.)

As for the RMN server, I shit talked Yanfly and then got muted by Liberty for 24 hours after I got pissed that people were promoting piracy and drugs in general and there was an active member of the discord that identified as a Satanist witch. Then, Yanfly himself came in and made multiple comments shit talking me without me even having a chance to respond since I was muted. I went to bed already upset and the next day I went onto discord and I was permabanned with no warning even though the mods said I would be only muted. I even messaged them before I went to bed asking the mods if I was banned, and then they said I was only muted. I tried joining other RM servers but was banned from every one I joined without posting anything because Yanfly was one of the mods there. The only servers I wasn't banned from were servers where Yanfly wasn't a mod. I haven't been banned from any other site, besides a few subreddits but those places are run by cringe powermods anyways who permaban unjustifiably all the time.

6: I am a kind person. I'm not an asshole, I'm just really sarcastic. I want to help other people. I want to be a kind person. I'm sorry it sometimes doesn't come across that way because I'm really bad with choosing my words. I help other people when they are down, I encourage my little sister when she's feeling bad about herself, I compliment her singing, I praise my mom constantly, I have a strong sense of justice that causes me to defend the weak and oppressed. I have empathy, I am a kind person. I'm not a psychopath.

And for the record, I have tried to change and better myself. I've learned a valuable lesson from my ban from rmw, NEVER post something when your so consumed in emotion which causes you to say crazy and irrational things. I posted the status update last night and intended to write a long self-pitying rant where I vented my frustrations, but deleted it and decided to look back on it the next day. I was going to delete this status update too before I get even more hate, but couldn't figure out to in the short time I was given. This whole situation shows for certain that I have learned from my mistakes, as I'm able to post this far more reasonable essay when I'm feeling better and less emotional instead of the insane emotional rant I deleted.

That is my response, and I stand by it, and no, Unity, there are people who still care about me, even on this single thread. Strack for example. My mother loves me, my dad loves me, my brother, my sister, my aunts, uncles, and grandparents, none of them believe me to be a "selfish, entitled asshole" like you claim. I will not let your hate control me. I have taken your words to heart, but I still know what most of what you say is untrue and falsified. Be more like Strak, giving criticism while also being kind and understanding. At least it's clear to me and you actively despise me, so I know to ignore your hurtful words from now on. I'm not sure what happened in your life to turn you into this from the kind, mellow, understanding Unity I know, but I hope you can heal from it and move on.
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
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For what little it might be worth at this point, I concede that I overreacted in the aforementioned Karen thread. It still kinda irks me that they only waited for one day, maybe two, before doing it themselves. Though, on one hand, I should congratulate them for doing it themselves! On the other hand, I feel they could have planned things a little better in regards to that thread/project.

What could have happened there is that it was a spontaneous idea. Like, the project in question was a thing for Mother's Day. I have zero issues with this base idea of making a game for Mother's Day. However, as far as I'm aware, that was celebrated this past Sunday. Which was also was the self-same day that they posted that thread. At least, according to my GMT settings.

However, that's also why I think the idea could have been planned better. I don't pretend to know when this project started, but, the possibility to use any RPG Maker female battler that currently exists, either paid or otherwise, apparently did not occur to them. They had a very specific thing in mind, and thought the descriptor of "Karen" was enough for potential illustrators to go on. Even if such a descriptor was enough (it was not in my case, but, plenty has been said of this already), I don't pretend to know how long that would take. However, if I would use my rule of thumb concerning gamepages (ie: if it's pending for over two weeks, that's when one would start considering PMing Liberty/Frogge), then, I think Krimson could/should have allowed that long for that work to be done. Maybe one week?

*Edit: Considering they did their own thing in a day, or maybe two, is notable. However, even if the work could be done in a day, one should not expect people to flock to a help thread just because it's there. What happened in the Karen thread is, essentially, an overestimation how many people would post combined with an underestimation how much time in which to post.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Marrend
What could have happened there is that it was a spontaneous idea. Like, the project in question was a thing for Mother's Day. I have zero issues with this base idea of making a game for Mother's Day. However, as far as I'm aware, that was celebrated this past Sunday. Which was also was the self-same day that they posted that thread. At least, according to my GMT settings.


Welp, I know which hemisphere you're in. He posted it the day after.
unity
You're magical to me.
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author=KrimsonKatt
I wanted things for others for free because of my past twisted worldview believing that good people will always provide things for other people solely out of the goodness of their heart.

This is bullshit. You want everything for free, now, and you talk shit about the people who give you free stuff. You have done it over and over, you're lying to yourself if you believe otherwise. Everyone here has seen you do it. You're not banned over multiple discord servers for no reason, you're banned because you treat people like shit, especially hard-working resource providers.

You want stuff, because "people are good?" And you get to treat them like crap and get all the good without giving back in return? You get to come here, demand stuff (and call out users) and throw a fit when no one makes what you want. You are trying to exploit people's generosity. That is something very different than this story you're telling about how the world betrayed you. That's, once again, you not looking at reality.

author=KrimsonKatt
At least it's clear to me and you actively despise me, so I know to ignore your hurtful words from now on. I'm not sure what happened in your life to turn you into this from the kind, mellow, understanding Unity I know, but I hope you can heal from it and move on.

You didn't read what I said. I said I don't hate you. I hate how you act. I'm allowed to hate how you treat people, because you do act like an asshole. Constantly.

But it's crystal clear from your response that you don't listen to anything anyone says. Don't worry, I won't waste time talking to you ever again. I will, however, warn others that you're out to waste people's time and you'll treat them like shit while you do so, because no one deserves to have to put up with that sort of behavior.
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
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author=pianotm
Welp, I know which hemisphere you're in. He posted it the day after.

Now I'm wondering if I forgot to set it to the correct value. Like, I set it to 0 to double-check their claim that it was two days before the did their thing, since it kinda looked to me that only one day had actually expired. Though, it wouldn't make any kind of difference whatsoever if that claim was true, because that still shows disrespect to the community at large.

*Edit: That aside, I think disengaging in this conversation is the right thing to do. Enough time and effort has been spent here, and would be better used on another activity. Such as gammak!
Mirak
Stand back. Artist at work. I paint with enthusiasm if not with talent.
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You are correct Marrend, this status has "served it's purpose".

Krimsonkatt you stink of abusive entitlement and I retire anything remotely positive I may have said about you anywhere at any point in time, it really is no wonder why you're unwanted in communities like this and you can bet your ass this attitude of yours will be your downfall every single time you do the attempt. You're not a "sarcastic person", you're just a shit kid. I hope you realize this and get to fixing it sooner than later.
EDIT: Nevermind. Maybe it's best to leave sleeping dogs lie.
About each of the points

1. Yes, by default nothing is free. People do things for free when they want, out of whim or whatever, but don't depend on it.
2. Be careful with what you say, sarcasm is easy to be misinterpreted, especially if you have no relation with the receiving end or there's zero context.
3. Fair. You do you.
4. There's a difference between critique and slander. Be careful with that.
5. Be careful also with the kinds of topics you talk about, and the sort of treatment.
6. You're not a bad person, you're just a bit thickheaded. It's hard to explain certain stuff because you see things differently, and for "us" it's like you misunderstand it all, or miss the point.

As for the quilt yes, the hail satan was a response to your piece. Not gonna lie, I thought of doing the same as you (an "ad" of my game) as a joke, but ended up doing something else.
author=KrimsonKatt
Is not liking yanfly this much of a sin? Am I not allowed to criticize him just because he's made some cool stuff? IMO it doesn't really seem fair and I'm sick of all this white knighting for some random guy none of you even know.


I'd like to address this. I do know yanfly.
FWIW he's a pretty great guy, too. Not that you'd believe that, but you don't know him, so...


As for everything else, I'm gonna leave it and lock it. It's not worth the time to talk to you about stuff because you can't seem to understand. That's fine, just know it won't make you any friends here to act like you have been. Please, for your own sake, take a long hard look at yourself and your actions - how they've been perceived by others.
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