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Final party in Final Fantasy IV

author=GreatRedSpirit
Rydia vs The Big Z is better used by throwing Flares than Bahamuts. Zeromus is a counter machine (this was FF4's way of trying to make any difficult enemy: Have it counter almost everything) and thanks to a glitch reflected magic will never provoke a counter attack. Put up a wall and bounce Flares around!

This also works against the Four Elementals fight. Changing form is a counter attack when their HP gets low. Set up and reflect Fire 3/Flares/Holy/Cure4s on the first Earth/Undead guy who is a total pushover and you'll curbstomp the entire fight in no time at almost no risk since the boss will never change forms into the next elemental.

That's an awesome trick for the Four Elementals, haha, thank you! Do you know which versions that works for?

Also, thanks for the correction on Zeromus' countering policy... Yeah, I agree, the game does a lot of that auto-countering for creating difficulty out of nowhere. I actually prefer that over moves that reduce everyone's HP to 1- I'm thinking of Kefka's special move from *Round 4* of FF6, though I think Zeromus has something similar (at the very least, The Big Z is awfully good at killing the party without an insta-near-kill type of move).

EDIT: Just read your Cecil-soloing story. Sounds epic, I'd love to try that.

Final Fantasy XIV patch 1.18

author=Illustrious
I have written off Final Fantasy completely out of principle. It's been ten years waiting for some magic in the series. After FFX I have not experienced anything memorable. FFXIV is more of this style over substance.


I know I'm repeating myself from some earlier topic on FF13 or 14, but I feel the same way you do with the FF series. It's just disappointing. But- I still really love the earlier games, even up through 9, 10, or 12.

I'd personally love to try FF14 if it gets more positive reactions, especially since I never tried FF11. Except... I don't try starting MMOs anymore, I just feel like a guy never gets enough time for those.

Kinda-funny FF13 anecdote: I normally love the music from the FF series by Nobuo Uematsu, but I played Dissidia 012 a bit and realized I now have this knee-jerk reaction of cringing whenever I hear that stupid fairy-tale-sounding main theme from FF13. I can even wrap my head around Lightning being a likable, cool character ("Cloud with boobs"), but I just... I just can't make myself play that game... gaaaahhhh...

Final party in Final Fantasy IV

author=Adon237
Edit: Posers huh? Well, I could never stand handheld devices so... I never played it... But still really?

Hehe, I originally posted this in Welp! Welp! trying to be funny because SNES & DS versions require the party and the strategy I described above. I 'banned' the GBA version because it lets you finish the game with any characters you want that ever joined your party, sans Tellah and FuSoYa. The GBA version is actually very good, and interestingly it also has a different script than the DS version.

I think the GBA script is used in the new PSP version- which, I forgot, also allows you to make up your own party for the final dungeon. Also, I think I read that the PSP version includes the massive bonus dungeon from the GBA version that provides new weapons & equipment for those 'returning' characters. The bonus dungeon is also apparently a bunch of fun in at least some parts, like Cid's airship-flying segment.

BTW: I bought the first few episodes of the After-Birth (lawls) on Wii. I had fun with Ceodore + Kain's chapters, but Rydia's... I just couldn't stay interested, and I can't shake the feeling I get when playing TAY that it's just a crappy fan-fiction... arhhhgh. It's really interesting because FF4 is probably my favorite RPG that I keep returning to. I also bought the new PSP rerelease of the FF4 collection, but I stopped playing because I still think the DS version is the best version of the original game.

EDIT: Also, if anyone remembers, doesn't Zeromus automatically counter any of Rydia's summons with Flare or some other killer move, at least in the DS version? I basically made up that strategy from memory, so...

Final party in Final Fantasy IV

FF4 is prolly my favorite Final Fantasy, and after reading the topics asking about final parties for FF5 and FF6, I thought it would be interesting to compare how different people played FF4. Please post below and share who you used to seal away the ultimate evil!

My party:
- Cecil (of course): Paladin
- Rosa: White Mage
- Rydia: Summoner
- Kain: Dragoon
- Edge: Ninja

I used Rosa to keep the party healthy while pounding away on Zeromus using Rydia's optional Bahamut summon. I started Edge with using Blink, then throwing the Butcher Knife I got from Yang's wife, then just pulling through all the extra leftover weapons I had. Cecil's less useful, he basically just attacked or healed when Rosa couldn't get it done, though I replayed the game on the DS where I gave Cecil the Draw Attacks and Brace abilities, so he just soaked up damage wherever possible. As for Kain- just Jumping, I guess. On the DS, I gave him the extra Darkness ability from Odin so he could beat the crap out of Zeromus. I also gave Kain the Phoenix ability in case Zeromus somehow killed the group, but I never had to use it...

What did YOU do for the final boss in FF4?

P.S. No cheating and using the GBA game. That version of the game is for posers >:(.

The Yellow Bucket Man

Neok, you now feel like the James Frey of forum topics. Natook, that probably makes you Oprah.

Tactics Ogre

author=cho
author=Mr. Y
allow my Archers to reach stupidly-high experience levels ... while the rest of my party just kind of tags along for the ride
no one in your party shouldn't be an archer


Yeah, I know... I guess I was just hoping the game might be, you know, kind of fun to play? Like I could try out a bunch of character classes and monsters, maybe see what I like? Maybe mix and match a little, I mean nothing absurd like a party strictly of Clerics, but just kinda... treat it like it were a GAME? But oh well. Tactics Ogre is like that friend that says they're up to doing whatever for Friday night but then whenever you suggest anything BESIDES watching the movie Caddy Shack they bitch and moan at you until you give up and put in the Caddy Shack DVD. And Caddy Shack is good... but not THAT good. Am I right?!

The Yellow Bucket Man

author=Pokemaniac
Hide in the bucket and spy on him

Eventually he'll say something that puts everything in context

Wait YES this is brilliant! Some other ideas might involve secretly replacing the yellow bucket with:

a) A red bucket
b) A yellow cooler
c) Folger's crystals

Please report back with the results.... .... ....

Choice Makes You Unhappy

My initial reaction is to feel repulsed by this article, buuut I can accept its overall premise, within reason. I believe in a general rule of moderation, and I also believe that most anything that can be good can be twisted or turned into something that is harmful. I guess I feel uncomfortable with this research because it seems to make too great a leap from its established premise to a different conclusion than what I wrote- not only that it's hypothetically possible for freedom of choice to somehow hurt people, but that the middle class of the global north is already hurting itself (to some degree) with too much choice, and that public policy as it currently stands should change somehow to curb freedom of choice to prevent this harm. I feel like this is a larger claim that the research article's authors would like to make, and that's why I still am turned off from their research even though its basic premise makes common sense.

EDIT: Also, is anyone else put off by the international policy implications that seem (to me) to be suggested by this article about the research? I don't mind people arguing that Western governments shouldn't try to play World Police just because it overextends nations like the USA while (sometimes) compromising the rights/sovereignty of other individual nations, but I find it unacceptable to start saying that country X, geographic region Y, or ethnic population Z, "as a whole," is "strongly disinclined" to accept 'Western' values like freedom of choice (in whatever rhetoric people choose to spin these ideas). But at this point I'm probably stretching it into a larger issue of human rights, which is outside the scope of the one issue of freedom of (economic?) choice discussed in the research article.

What's your white whale?

I guess I'm like several others that've posted that like to accumulate and play video games, though I tend to seek "excellent" or "historical" video games that common consensus seems to suggest I ought to play. The problem is, I've realized I just don't have time for that anymore, and I've gotten comfortable with playing video games not because I haven't beaten them yet, but because I like them.

I don't really feel like there's something that I've wanted for a long time and just want to get it *soon*, not now anyways. I guess I just feel anxious because I'm entering graduate school soon, and because when I leave I will have a hefty six-figure amount of student debt and will want to start 'settling down' at the same time. So, if I had an extra $300 and more free time, I'd love to just invest myself in as many preparatory materials as I could get my hands on.

The Yellow Bucket Man

I disagree with everyone saying that you ask!

Since this is a democracy, I vote that... you don't ask. Rather, I vote that you do your best to put it out of your head and dismiss it as one of those weird, unexplainable phenomena of our world... It's certainly an interesting observation, and I don't think it's wrong to share the story with other people. But, as you pointed out, it seems to just be the business of the pool ownership and the Yellow Bucket Man.

For realsies, what's better as a short story: that you encountered a Yellow Bucket Man with a unique, unexplainable ritual, or that you met some dude (who looks like the Old Spice dude) who keeps washing himself with pool water because he doesn't want to spend any money on steroid cream to treat the eczema spots he gets on his big bald head during the spring/summer, who then STOPPED because you had to go and make him feel all self-conscious about it??? (in this I concur with the tardis argument, above)

Or, alternative, if it's still too interesting/distracting to let go, then write an amazing short story about the Yellow Bucket Man as undergoing some sort of ritual cleansing or purification that harkens back to the days of that 'old time religion' while dispensing with all the cliches and the BS that practicing faith must necessarily involve in The Modern Age. Submit it to the New Yorker. Make big money at home. Cut out the middleman and pass the savings directly on to YOU. I don't know.