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What I like about checking back on this site is seeing how little has changed and unfortunately I don't mean that in a good sense.
Ratty524- 09/22/2018 05:11 AM
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CloseThat's probably what you should do. Y'know, instead of lumping the whole community into the same pot because Roden and myself had an exchange.
author=Rodenfair enough.
I calmed down, cooled off, and came back- read the forums and realized it was a lot better than I remember.
My point isn't that it shouldn't have been considered, but that its foolish to see it as an example that the site hasn't changed at all over the years. I can't speak for what the moderation took from the incident. Whether or not you personally would like to see her advice considered is moot- I have plenty of ideas I think would make the site better, and I've suggested them, but none have been considered beyond the initial interaction. It's not a damning review even if you know the person closely.InfectionFiles
It makes me happy knowing that I piss you off. It really does. :)
This is the kind of attitude that helps literally nobody. Unless your definition of helping is turning this into the same shitstorm that hit the mascot topic.
EDIT: and yeah maybe one thing I can do to change is actually use the ignore function of this site but idk I feel like it would give that clown too much pleasure.
I calmed down, cooled off, and came back- read the forums and realized it was a lot better than I remember.
My point isn't that it shouldn't have been considered, but that its foolish to see it as an example that the site hasn't changed at all over the years. I can't speak for what the moderation took from the incident. Whether or not you personally would like to see her advice considered is moot- I have plenty of ideas I think would make the site better, and I've suggested them, but none have been considered beyond the initial interaction. It's not a damning review even if you know the person closely.
This is the kind of attitude that helps literally nobody. Unless your definition of helping is turning this into the same shitstorm that hit the mascot topic.
My point isn't that it shouldn't have been considered, but that its foolish to see it as an example that the site hasn't changed at all over the years. I can't speak for what the moderation took from the incident. Whether or not you personally would like to see her advice considered is moot- I have plenty of ideas I think would make the site better, and I've suggested them, but none have been considered beyond the initial interaction. It's not a damning review even if you know the person closely.
InfectionFiles
It makes me happy knowing that I piss you off. It really does. :)
This is the kind of attitude that helps literally nobody. Unless your definition of helping is turning this into the same shitstorm that hit the mascot topic.
author=InfectionFiles
So, I'm the only one keeping you from here?
I win!
I'm glad you are admitting you are an insufferable idiot, let alone an active contributor to everything that could possibly be wrong with this community. I appreciate your honesty.
author=Roden
Keep in mind, one person (who was new at the time) trying to restructure the entirety of a community isn't some guarantee that it'll happen. Did she deserve what happened? Fuck no. But to act like RMN is at fault for not acting on the advice of one short-term member is absurd, frankly.
People are bawking at you because you took the time to make a status which basically just says you don't like the place. It's not taking action, it's not helping, it's barely doing anything but making you a target and forcing people to feel bad for keeping you away even if it isn't their fault at all.
I mean, besides that, telling people they're missing the point isn't gonna help either. I think you know that- you've seen the drama, you've seen the fights, so don't try to start one by prickling people about it, or you're just contributing to the issue you want resolved. You can't resolve it by simply coming around to say "I'm still not here".
I dunno. The recent drama in the mascot thread had a quick resolution, which to me is pretty new for RMN. The mods did stuff, the people involved did stuff. It was an improvement. I don't feel great about taking an isolated example and playing off the whole site over it.
I guess this is fair overall, but like, at a minimum, I would have liked to see it considered? Nevermind that the assertion that not acting on a "short-term" member's advise is reasonable (why do you think she was short-term to begin with? And idk about you guys but if I was running a site, and a new member was left with an awful impression of it, I would at least consider that something needs to change about this place), what steps has this site taken to improve its community atmosphere? What even got you to come back as a regular member here again?
Ratty524
Like, I honestly want to like this community? There is still a bit of nostalgia that has me taking a peek once every few months? (That and I recently reset my hard drive and most of my old projects were erased, so I came back recently to try to re-download them once I even remember they exist with my scatter-brained ass)I just don't want to put up with the rotten baggage again.
And Unity, I'm pretty much reminded of when wetmattos gave her excellent suggestions on how to restructure how this community a while back and idk I haven't seen a whole lot of evidence that it was put into action? I'm sorry if I sound like this difficult grump but I just feel like I and a few others have already given our thoughts on the matter, I just want to see how it was ever implemented.
Keep in mind, one person (who was new at the time) trying to restructure the entirety of a community isn't some guarantee that it'll happen. Did she deserve what happened? Fuck no. But to act like RMN is at fault for not acting on the advice of one short-term member is absurd, frankly.
People are bawking at you because you took the time to make a status which basically just says you don't like the place. It's not taking action, it's not helping, it's barely doing anything but making you a target and forcing people to feel bad for keeping you away even if it isn't their fault at all.
I mean, besides that, telling people they're missing the point isn't gonna help either. I think you know that- you've seen the drama, you've seen the fights, so don't try to start one by prickling people about it, or you're just contributing to the issue you want resolved. You can't resolve it by simply coming around to say "I'm still not here".
I dunno. The recent drama in the mascot thread had a quick resolution, which to me is pretty new for RMN. The mods did stuff, the people involved did stuff. It was an improvement. I don't feel great about taking an isolated example and playing off the whole site over it.
Lennon
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Ratty524
Like, I honestly want to like this community? There is still a bit of nostalgia that has me taking a peek once every few months? (That and I recently reset my hard drive and most of my old projects were erased, so I came back recently to try to re-download them once I even remember they exist with my scatter-brained ass)I just don't want to put up with the rotten baggage again.
And Unity, I'm pretty much reminded of when wetmattos gave her excellent suggestions on how to restructure how this community a while back and idk I haven't seen a whole lot of evidence that it was put into action? I'm sorry if I sound like this difficult grump but I just feel like I and a few others have already given our thoughts on the matter, I just want to see how it was ever implemented.
Keep in mind, one person (who was new at the time) trying to restructure the entirety of a community isn't some guarantee that it'll happen. Did she deserve what happened? Fuck no. But to act like RMN is at fault for not acting on the advice of one short-term member is absurd, frankly.
People are bawking at you because you took the time to make a status which basically just says you don't like the place. It's not taking action, it's not helping, it's barely doing anything but making you a target and forcing people to feel bad for keeping you away even if it isn't their fault at all.
I mean, besides that, telling people they're missing the point isn't gonna help either. I think you know that- you've seen the drama, you've seen the fights, so don't try to start one by prickling people about it, or you're just contributing to the issue you want resolved. You can't resolve it by simply coming around to say "I'm still not here".
I dunno. The recent drama in the mascot thread had a quick resolution, which to me is pretty new for RMN. The mods did stuff, the people involved did stuff. It was an improvement. I don't feel great about taking an isolated example and playing off the whole site over it.
E: Here I am posting with my fucking old account lol
Also, for the rest of you, it's pretty wild how the first take away from this vent-status you all get is "I'm leaving because I'm better than all y'all pleebs"
idk probably because the status reads like someone who is leaving because they feel exactly that. *shrug*
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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author=Ratty524
Like, I honestly want to like this community?
You sound like my ex-pastor. He'll never let me back in no matter how hard I try, and his insistence that he wants me back is just a bunch of hogwash. Our last big discussion went essentially like "I want you back and we keep no record of wrongs, but here's all the things you did wrong in the past and why I don't feel comfortable bringing you back".
author=Ratty524author=ESBYIf you're interested in what I'm doing right now
on the bright side though ratty, at least you don't need to read corf's posts anymore
i saw your early monster rpg stuff on twitter, how's that going? clamtot is my jam(tot)
If you're not going to be a part of the community, do not use it as free advertisement for your stuff. Just leave. Don't take advantage of what this community does right for your own gain while also throwing it away and cutting it down. I used to have friends like that and I'm still reeling from the hurt it's caused me. Find another community and promote it there. Join the Discord and speak to esby there. Answer in a PM. Don't scum up the community with self-aggrandizing advertisement.
author=ESBY
on the bright side though ratty, at least you don't need to read corf's posts anymore
i saw your early monster rpg stuff on twitter, how's that going? clamtot is my jam(tot)
ha! Glad you liked it. xD
I think I'm miles away from being able to code my own tactics game, though, so that idea just exists on paper.
If you're interested in what I'm doing right now, I've signed up for a Mega Man - themed level design contest and I'm devoting my efforts towards polishing my level for it. After that, I have a SimRPG Maker project that is in its infancy (Dyhalto's FireRMNblem game got me to try it out) and another project with MV.
... And crap I still have that IGMC project that I missed the deadline for and is currently lying dormant. I'm an organized person.
author=Sooz
IF and I were dicks in the mascot thread a few days ago. But we got scolded for it, and then AFAIK the subject was dropped, so that's basically business as usual for all the fora I've ever been to. Actually, better than usual, because it didn't turn into a pages-long derail. :V
Also FTR I apologized in PM because being a dick is a shitty thing to do vOv
Wow you actually got the context of this status and it's honestly big of you to actually admit your mistake and apologize. I hope IF did the same thing.
Also, for the rest of you, it's pretty wild how the first take away from this vent-status you all get is "I'm leaving because I'm better than all y'all pleebs" and not "I'm not confident that this is a safe or healthy environment for me or my friends when one of the first threads I see coming back already has the same kind of belittling drama I've witnessed years ago with this site and I am personally exhausted with community environments like that."
Like, I honestly want to like this community? There is still a bit of nostalgia that has me taking a peek once every few months? (That and I recently reset my hard drive and most of my old projects were erased, so I came back recently to try to re-download them once I even remember they exist with my scatter-brained ass)I just don't want to put up with the rotten baggage again.
And Unity, I'm pretty much reminded of when wetmattos gave her excellent suggestions on how to restructure how this community a while back and idk I haven't seen a whole lot of evidence that it was put into action? I'm sorry if I sound like this difficult grump but I just feel like I and a few others have already given our thoughts on the matter, I just want to see how it was ever implemented.
visitorsfromdreams
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As someone who spends a lot of time on RMW this is definitely a better community. Seems to be a lot less people here that ask for feedback only to defend every little thing that gets critiqued. I know it still happens here from time to time but damn RMW is dripping with people that like to tout their bad game and narrative design as a deliberate feature which makes it okay, drives me nuts.
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
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I'm occasionally awful, mostly just annoying
Blind
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Eh, it is what it is. It's still a tighter-knit community compared with RMW, IMO. And it's the closest thing to a semi-unified group of RPGMaker users, even if many of them are completely awful.
