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A.I. Generation and RMN

author=kentona
We are hobbyists too trying our best.
Same.

That being said, I'm serious about moving over to Itch.io and this will probably be my last post on the site. This is just too big of a red flag for me to ignore.

author=Liberty
and sometimes we have to retroactively trim that which no longer fits.

You've done let's plays of some of my games in the past, as part of event streams. I'd appreciate it if you'd remove them. Please and thank you.

A.I. Generation and RMN

author=Liberty
We've always retroactively denied things that didn't fit the rules. Games that we learned broke rules, for example - Hawkman is one that jumps to mind right away - or had stolen assets. This isn't new.

This becomes an issue when you can create new rules, that are then also retroactively applied.

If a gamepage is accepted, but then is later found to contain really edgy dialogue that violates site hatespeech rules, that's understandable.

If a gamepage is accepted and the game conforms to RMN's rules at the time it was uploaded, but then a later rule makes it illegal, that's kind of another issue entirely.

A.I. Generation and RMN

author=Roden
Yes, god forbid you just make your own content or collaborate with other people, something this site has pushed and supported for like more than a decade at this point
1. None of the games I've removed actually used AI generated art. I'm not leaving because AI art is now banned. I'm leaving because I don't trust the site administration any more.

2. I do make my own graphics. I'm a 3D artist:

https://youtu.be/zWU_wJXlUqA?si=JjRtkz9Eosd0uyIf
https://youtu.be/Vgsw1O--HUU?si=cvHJHKLQVWnQx3CK
https://youtu.be/m1NzNtsb67k?si=PdXOIx2Mfcy6rSi3
https://youtu.be/FuYtgNvqx2M?si=E6mYxoKCrzYA4OJQ

3. I actually do commission artists regularly, usually for portraits, thought lately I've been hiring someone to do spaceship concept art.

A.I. Generation and RMN

author=Red_Nova
This is the distinction right here.
Hardly.

AI generative tools are built into photoshop and only used content Adobe has the legal rights to. But, this isn't an argument I really care about.

I don't trust RMN any more. I've privated all my gamepages, and I have absolutely no intention of ever uploading any games in the future. You're not going to convince me.

A.I. Generation and RMN

author=Roden
Being that it was a grey area in the rules before

While there are perfectly valid moral reasons to consider AI art theft, this site is perfectly happy to host content that uses stolen graphics and audio, with the stipulation that rips cannot come from indie games.

If I released a game with an AI generated planet texture trained off of public domain NASA satellite photos, the gamepage would be pulled immediately. If I replaced them with textures stolen from Master of Orion 3, it would be considered 100% RMN legal.

Calling it a grey area is disingenuous.

A.I. Generation and RMN

author=Liberty
Retroactive denials of games will occur over the next few days.
Yeah, that's my cue to finally migrate over to Itch.io.

I think the site's policy towards AI is well meaning but narrow minded, but retroactively removing content that had previously been accepted is too far and sets an an extremely worrying precedent.

I'm not going to sink time and effort into a gamepage if, for example, you can just decide "oh it's RPGmaker.net, so all the games should be RPGs, Visual Novels aren't allowed."

GW Chaingame 2022-2023: The Maker's Mark Legacy

author=TheRpgmakerAddict
can't wait to play this one!!! :D

Chapter 5 has some of the best writing I've ever seen in an RPGmaker game. Definitely worth playing.

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Least drunk T-72 operator.

(Is that a T-72? It looks like it.)

PSA: DO NOT Use Unity (Or RM Unite)

author=Strak
I think that's pretty lenient.

Strak, you realize literally nobody else does this, right?

So I hardly go into a shame spiral anymore over Befuddle Quest 7 whenever it is brought up

Yeah, I guess in hindsight it was naïve to assume that nobody else asked that before.