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Deleting every let's play I ever made, not how I imagined coming back to RMN....

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If you are reading this it means you are one of the folx that enjoyed the stuff I made, so I'm sorry to say that I Unlisted everything as of November 20th 2019 with plans to delete everything by the new year. The stuff regarding COPPA is so vaguely worded that I'm not taking any chances on it, especially since my stuff started off with the intent to be Family Friendly and only became more grey as time went on. So since YT is prompting me to mark stuff even though I've never even tried to monetize my content, I'm worried about getting a 42K fine that I can't even come close to paying, I already am paying 600 a month in Student Loans. I'll be downloading Super RMN World for the sake of memories, but beyond that everything else must go. It was fun at the moment, and maybe I'll come back at some point and actually stick with it, but for now, it's over.

For what it's worth, making dumb vids for ya'll was one of my favorite things when I was doing it...
unity
You're magical to me.
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I think (and hope!) you're overreacting, but given how weird YouTube is and how bonkers their rules can be, erring on side of caution is probably smart.

If this blows over and they either change the rules or this turns out not to be such a big deal, at least you could reupload your old videos if you still have them on your hard drive.
Well to be fair, it's not actually YT's rules, it's the US Government, specifically the FTC. And they have made it clear that they both can and are willing to fine individual users over this, with 42k per vid being the minimum fine. If I have the files and things work out I'll definitely reupload. As I said, I'm making an effort to save RMN World if only for my own eyes, and it seems that I happen to have the entirety of Umbral Soul still. And yeah, I hope I'm overreacting too, I just don't want to take chances with guidelines that seem to think that the mere presence of animated characters automatically makes something for kids.
theres a setting you can tick that marks ur entire channel as kid or non-kid friendly. its under settings > advanced settings.

i highly doubt kids use their real age on youtoob anyway, this is pretty pointless.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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bicfarmer
theres a setting you can tick that marks ur entire channel as non-kid friendly. its under settings > advanced settings.

i highly doubt kids use their real age on youtoob anyway, this is pretty pointless.

Yeah, if you don't want your life ruined, don't do this. That 42,000 dollar fine is PER VIDEO!

Creators clearly don't understand this. Marking as "Not for kids" is not a good idea. The FTC clearly states that videos that could be attractive to children are under target. You specifically don't get to decide what's not for kids; they do.

EDIT: You have the option in Studio to mark your entire channel as "For kids". Don't delete anything. Just mark the whole channel "For kids". Yes, you'll lose your revenue stream, but you won't lose the videos so that if COPPA rules ever change, you can still switch everything back.
that makes no sense. they cant even watch every single youtube video, much less determine if every video is for kids or not. Guidelines state that it is up to the creator to designate their video correctly.

I dont think you should mark ur entire channel as 'for kids' because that would probably be where the risk of fines can occur. If I have a channel filled with gorey first person shooter playthru's then I definitely dont want to make it 'for kids'


OK I READ more about it and it looks like the main thing is that making it for kids complies with the law about not collecting info on minors. Now that sounds really dumb because the gorey first person shooter playthru's are meant for kids now. Great idea.
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
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It's PROBABLY not as dire as everyone thinks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OBGfbSk_HE
Yeah, this whole COPPA thing has been blown out of proportion and theres a tonne of youtube channels profiting from the fear their videos are generating.
Eh, I'm leaving my videos as is. Not only because good luck trying to fine me over in Australia land, but also fuck you, the channel has been marked as mature for years due to my swearing. It's on my profile too, so if any kid stumbles on that shit, that's their own issue.
Like the rest said, I think everyone is overreacting. At least for me, I'm not so affected by it since my videos aren't really for kids anyway.
Wait a second, I think I know where this comes from. A while back, several years back at least, YouTube had its own section or site for kids, and people were purposefully posting videos targeted at kids which had disturbing things somewhere in the middle.
Hexatona
JESEUS MIMLLION SPOLERS
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Wait, isn't the fine levied against youtube? It's not going to touch you dude.
Hexatona
JESEUS MIMLLION SPOLERS
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And if you're actually worried - just mark them as not intended for children? This is like the definition of a overreaction to a non-problem.
It has occurred to me that there are a lot of options here I have not considered, especially since I don't care about monetizing, one such option being to age restrict my vids so that there is no way a kid CAN accidentally view them. This is great for my RMN World LP, not so much for the vids I already deleted in a panic of Anxiety yesterday... I will admit I probably have overreacted to this personally, especially as the FTC has actually extended thier timeframe for accepting comments on the whole issue due to the response they've received thus far.

author=Hexatona
And if you're actually worried - just mark them as not intended for children? This is like the definition of a overreaction to a non-problem.

See, the fine is FOR the FTC deciding that you marked a vid Not For Kids when they feel the opposite is true, and they have gone on record saying they fully intend to fine individual creators.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Hexatona
Wait, isn't the fine levied against youtube? It's not going to touch you dude.


No, the FTC has publically declared they're going after the creators. There was a big press conference. It has choice quotes like, "So the analogy I think of, imperfect, is the expression about shooting fish in a barrel and the barrel is Youtube and the fish are the content creators so it's a place where these ... where this content is centralized and essentially it's easy for us to find."



Now it's worth knowing that in this press conference, these guys are lying about what COPPA does, allows, and requires. They're not ignorant about it. They're just lying. COPPA doesn't actually let them go after individuals over this. The problem here is that if they go after you or me, we can't stop them. It doesn't matter if they're breaking the law. Nobody cares. And just because the FTC isn't actually allowed to do this doesn't mean they won't make examples of easy targets that can't defend themselves from a massive government body with near-infinite resources.

Just to be clear, COPPA explicitly specifies that only content CONTROLLERS are liable. Content creators are not controllers. We don't run the algorithm. We don't determine if our videos are monetized. Your Youtube channel isn't a website. What's more, the settlement between Google and COPPA even specifies this point.

So basically, the FTC has gone legit full Nazi.
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