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Out of content - Time to restart, right?
Well, it's kind of a nobrainer really. Complete optional content -> gain access to ultimate final. (Star Ocean 2 was actually a bit dickish about this and made the trigger an obscure event rather than beating the Cave of Trials or Iseria Queen - but you'd have to be a one in a million case to trigger it before beating the normal final boss)
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I'm talking specifically about the final boss receiving an increase in difficulty after the player has beaten an optional boss. ie- if Safer Sephiroth were to gain an extra 10,000 HP after the player has defeated both Ruby and Emerald WEAPON.
This would just make the fight 5 minutes longer for Level 6 Cloud & Co.
Either way, straight up stat mods are just lazy and bad form in this case. A more difficult form of a boss fight should be more than a 1.3x mod to HP and ATK, its creation should be given as much attention as an entirely new fight.
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I plan to do both in a future project actually! (Clear file unlocks optional dungeon of doom, optional dungeon of doom has an event at the end that results in a powered up final) Clear files are pretty sweet, yeah.
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The pecking order should be Possible optional final > high-end optional bosses > final boss = entry-level optional bosses.
Edit: Where did that post come from
The pecking order should be Possible optional final > high-end optional bosses > final boss = entry-level optional bosses.
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This is an particularly amazing case because it's still slow when sped up to 8x on an emulator
Out of content - Time to restart, right?
It's the most common way to do postgame content these days. Though I don't consider "postgame" strictly necessitating beating the game, just something that is above the power levels of the main plot.
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Can't believe I forgot the obvious one used by a few games such as Star Ocean 2 and The Last Remnant.
Once you do the optional content, the final boss's "limiter" is turned off and the final boss fight itself becomes the big bad ultimate challenge, sometimes with a slightly altered ending.
Once you do the optional content, the final boss's "limiter" is turned off and the final boss fight itself becomes the big bad ultimate challenge, sometimes with a slightly altered ending.
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The argument is still valid, and Sol managed to sum it up quite nicely at that.
"Hey, uh, you're wrong becausethis entry in the series(my bad, durp) the example you gave didn't do quite that."
Okay, to contribute more than a smug "heh check your facts"...
I prefer my reward for beating the ultimate challenge to be some kind of cool non-battle feature, like a piece of sideplot or a secret room or an alternate noncanon ending, etc. A gimmicky (to the point that pretty much breaks the rules of the system) piece of equipment/skill will do if the game has a NG+ that wipes your levels.
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Ultima Weapon of FF fame is pretty much the antithesis of this stance - you give the the player the ultimate, oh-shit inducing sword... and nothing to use it on? If you could rebattle Omega Weapon with it, then yeah, it'd make sense. Or maybe hunt a bigger homie? Just do something with it.
Except that never happened before FF12?? Your usual reward was something quirkier (have materia with all the spells in the game, oh and if you haven't beaten Ruby yet these will have legit use too) or, more often, a simple "You are a fucking hero"-trophy.
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There are many ways the mini-scenarios around the world can play out and affect each other depending on things you do and don't do as well as choices, yeah.
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If you're not willing to give my game enough attention where you want to skip everything and zoom all the way through on rollerskates, then that's simply a sign of a failed game you just want to get over.
It's less this and more the fact that moving around just isn't exciting and anything that minimizes the time spent on it is more time spent at your destinations, the places where things happen.
Edit: If I want to spend the extra time admiring the maps I can just stop manually
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