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Please, Stop Writing Happy Endings
My apologies, I oversimplified your argument for the sake of sounding snappy. People far more eloquent and intelligent than me have responded to the point you actually tried to make, too. It's all several pages back, if you're still interested in having that discussion.
Please, Stop Writing Happy Endings
@Toaster_Team: no one is saying that sad endings are inherently bad or that they shouldn't exist. Like yeah some stories have tragic endings and that's fine. The argument here is that happy endings are lazy and have less value than Serious or Sad endings, but commenters several pages ago took that right apart.
Also, here, more food for thought: Shakespeare also wrote a fuck tonne of comedies, and even his tragedies are full of hilarious moments/characters. These plays are also incredibly beloved.
Also, here, more food for thought: Shakespeare also wrote a fuck tonne of comedies, and even his tragedies are full of hilarious moments/characters. These plays are also incredibly beloved.
Please, Stop Writing Happy Endings
author=Corfaisusauthor=PentagonBuddyWhat Disney villains are we talking about here?
This still happens, for the record. One of those shitty ideas Disney often promotes to kids? Consistently coding their villainous characters as if they are LGBTQIA+. (Honestly for me as a kid it also just made me identify more with villain characters. that's another thing you can talk for ages about)
Scar, Jafar, Urusla (who was literally based on a real drag queen) -- basically most of the Disney Rennaisance villains.
Really just like... any of the villains, tbh. If the villain is male and effeminate, they are absolutely being coded as LGBT. There has been a lot of discussions about this elsewhere in the past, so I'm sure you could easily look up a few and get more details on the subject that way.
(You can also probably check out how a lot of the villains are coded as Jewish, like Mother Gothel, but I'm not an expert on that and thus can't really comment beyond yup that sure is a thing that Jewish folks have noticed and discussed.)
Anyway that's all I have to say on that, since it's kinda off topic!
Please, Stop Writing Happy Endings
author=Sooz
Having spent 2 decades with untreated depression, I gotta say, happy stories often helped me to survive, and often taught me not to assume that everything would be relentlessly awful and/or that humanity was on a downward spiral into despair.
So, y'know, I feel like maybe happy endings might have some import to humanity.
Ditto, especially since a lot of representation of people like myself in popular culture involves glorifying our deaths? I have an illness that I won't go into, and yeah a lot of the popular depictions of it involve Death and Suffering for the sake of the not-sick audience's enjoyment. This is why the talk of "observing" pain irked me so much when it came up earlier.
Happy endings help me get through the day and remind me that there actually is a life beyond the two-ish decades I've lived. It's not a certainity that I'm going to end up dying by suicide before I'm thirty.
That nudge towards survival for real, living, breathing people makes positive endings worth it, I think.
Please, Stop Writing Happy Endings
Please, Stop Writing Happy Endings
@volke_locke: it's nice you wrote up a big post about that, but like... that's not the point here. The reason the things you're describing are so awful is because real harm has come to real people. The way you're then bringing this up to make a point is extremely disrespectful, imo, especially since you then went on to compare actual tragedies to something like FF7.
I say again: these were real events that effected and continue to affect real people. They're not neat ideas or some sort of interesting narrative to pull apart and look at "objectively."
So the point is: make your point in some way that doesn't involve stepping on people, or don't make it at all.
I say again: these were real events that effected and continue to affect real people. They're not neat ideas or some sort of interesting narrative to pull apart and look at "objectively."
So the point is: make your point in some way that doesn't involve stepping on people, or don't make it at all.
Please, Stop Writing Happy Endings
@volke_locke: Alright, first of all, it is incredibly tasteless to bring up a real life tragedy and reduce it to some sort of "narrative." That was a real thing that actually happened and caused real people pain.
Secondly, from what I gather from your posts: really it sounds like you just want to deny the responsibility an author has when writing a story. Go back and read Penta's bonus part of their post about lesbian pulp novels. This is a p great example of, yes, real life consequences coming from made up stories. Writing does not exist in a vacuum: it influences the way people think and how we interact with each other.
If I, too, have "misinterpreted" your posts, would you mind outlining what you actually think in clearer terms?
Secondly, from what I gather from your posts: really it sounds like you just want to deny the responsibility an author has when writing a story. Go back and read Penta's bonus part of their post about lesbian pulp novels. This is a p great example of, yes, real life consequences coming from made up stories. Writing does not exist in a vacuum: it influences the way people think and how we interact with each other.
If I, too, have "misinterpreted" your posts, would you mind outlining what you actually think in clearer terms?
Please, Stop Writing Happy Endings
Get Social: #1 Small Talk
author=Feldschlacht IV
I'm so 'good' at small talk I usually end up inadvertently playing therapist to people. It gets weird!
Avoiding this is a fun game of asserting boundaries. And I do recommend avoiding this for people you're not incredibly close to? It's nice to support people, but man is it ever taxing if you do it for everyone you talk with. OTL
Really if you're finding yourself in this situation with strangers and you don't want to be in it, the line "I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough time" and other honest expressions of sympathy will be your friend. Do not invite people to tell you more, but be kind when dismissing them, as mean as that sounds! Taking care of yourself is important, and not being everyone's diary is v important when taking care of yourself.
@CashmereCat: r u saying we should all become
united
Get Social: #1 Small Talk
author=CashmereCat
That is, emmych, until I hit you with the "what is your deepest and darkest fear?" question.
In all seriousness, I don't like the fact that I like talking about myself, but I do. I'd rather be the person that is interested in the person I'm talking with, than the self-absorbed dude.
HA, the answer is easy in that case: "Hahaha, oh, now that's a secret! What about yours?" BEEEE MYSTERIOUS~
And eehh, lit everyone likes talking about themself. People who say they don't are either lying or have some Reason for it! It's natural to wanna talk about the things you're interested in/what's going on in your life, yeah?
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