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@IF, well, you convinced at least one person. Keep in mind at that point that half the players are "unconvinceable" by default, either because they're scum or Liberty.

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Well this was a lot of fun, if weighted a bit towards scum. 12 players 3 scum is like 80% scum winrate with blind lynches and no true power roles. I'm not sure /every/ town having a power actually helps counteract that because scum has powers as well, can cooperate a lot more easily, and aren't firing wildly at each other.

Best moment for me this game was IF flipping scum, knew it could only devolve into comedy after that. Too bad the double lynch didn't work out. I thought that would've gotten piano killed immediately for suggesting it.

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Actually, the fact that scum haven't jumped on a Kloe bandwagon is pretty damning evidence that she /is/ scum, especially if Liberty's being honest about her two votes.
#lynch Kloe

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#cancel
@SZandex: Thanks for your thoughts. Please stick around especially for the end of the day. There's a (small) chance that your vote will be necessary to break a scum voting block, in which case, we can't win the game without you. One last question: why didn't you mention the suspicious package yesterday? It would've indicated that piano was lying (or just forgot, as he says).

So about the "arming" theory: piano was being honest when he said his item has no drawbacks, then only chooses to send it last night, to open up Liberty. To avoid suspicion, he claims that it's a hot potato item and that he passed it to an unsuspicious scum partner. I don't like this as much because SZandex had no attention on him until now and putting a partner in danger is not something I'd think scum-piano would be likely to do.

@Ratty: Don't get trigger happy. That was very explicitly a "show up and start talking" vote and not an invitation for a hammer. Who do you think is scum? Without my voting for them first. You mentioned you thought Kloe was clear because IF "flipped town," would be interested in elaboration.

@Dudesoft: I played scum with Ratty a game or two ago and he went super erratic when Kloe (other scum) was cornered. Like he almost died because he backed her up so much, even when I was yelling at him to bail when it was clear she was toast. Unless he took the complete wrong lesson from the whole thing and "double down on defense when my team is under pressure," I don't know what scum-Ratty was playing with IF. It'd be the same mistake, again, but even bigger. It doesn't at all clear him, but but it's kept him lower on my radar than it normally would.

I'm still on Kloe. Scum are just as capable of crumbling under pressure. Last game Marrend got himself modkilled when suspicion was on him and ratty browbeat sooz pretty excessively.

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@Ratty: he flipped scum. That he flipped town the second time doesn't mean anything if there's a disguise in play. Don't be so quick to exonerate Kloe, especially considering that out of left field move on day 1. She's still might be a jester, but w/e. I'm not taking anything he said or flipped at face value.

@Liberty: My scum team possibilities are at the moment is:
Kloe/IF: for obvious reasons. Plus it seems like they both just threw in the towel as soon as the double lynch thing was floated. I would be disappointed. Kloe offering a good explanation of believing IF would satisfy me but my bet is it's a "hunch" so... welp
Dudesoft/Liberty: I only call this one because of the vote proving thing. It makes sense in the scum-proving-themselves way because you mutually ensure your towniness (or at least, partially). Even if the vote shows up double, that helps me know who's playing honest about their abilities, but not about their alignment, which is what I care about. I discount this team because I think IF was scum, in which case, I can at least think you're town, Liberty. Dudesoft's vote on night one would still have me keep him as a suspect though.
If there's a third living scum, my bet's on SZandex, who was coached to send that package. He's unreadable to me, anyway, and uh
author=SZandex
@psy: I passed the bomb to liberty for the sake of doing it xD.

this has to be about the least confidence-boosting thing I could've asked for.

Keep in mind that's just teams. I'm trying to look for scummate behavior rather than "tells" or whatever, not that it helped much last game.



#lynch SZandex Please tell me who you think is scum and I'll (probably) cancel. If you try to pull some lurker-scum move and vanish, the vote stays.

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Keep in mind that scum could 1) roleblock whoever's blocking the victim 2) cast protect on the victim 3) do some other crazy play before that can happen. Unless you chose an innocent to take the bomb, in which case they'd let it go through. It's the same problem last game as Frogge: scum only has to bother to block if you target scum. We'd have to bank on the remaining mafia not having a block or interference power, but either a Kloe-flavor or IF-flavor lethal/nonlethal block would work.

Liberty I'm actually kind of worried now that you've announced that. scum-Dudesoft could use his power on you tonight and you'd be dead. Kloe could probably also kill you like that.

@Dudesoft is there anything preventing you from giving the vote to the same person twice in a row, etc?

Also how the hell did everyone target cave on the first night? So far three people have admitted it, and he was nightkilled. I guess Kloe/IF locking him down was probably intentional though.

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Alright:

If Dudesoft is scum, then Liberty must be scum. Scum-DS would give the extra vote to fellow scum. So, Liberty, you should know if Dudesoft is in the clear or not. (ruling out a town-only restriction?)

The heat on IF was mostly coming from blob's existence and vice versa. That blob flipped (apparently) town, I'm feeling safer about moving IF to the "yeah, probably scum" category.

@Kloe: sorry, but can you explain again why you thought IF was innocent after he flipped? Your ability has been confirmed by DS (unless he's also scum) so don't claim it was some sort of seer ability. Keep in mind IF is not at all a bad player and would be doing whatever it took to get you on his side.

@SZandex: Did you have the package last night? If not, either you or piano must be scum. If you did have it, why did you send it to Liberty?

@Ratty: Very low, in my estimation. That'd just be a self-handicap. I think scum would be likely to pass it to obvious town, and to town they want eliminated. Liberty is effectively tied up, and if she's to be believed about her protect-y role, she's otherwise immune to scum. Meaning to kill her, they /have/ to pass it to her. I don't like it.

@piano: I'll believe you re:drawbacks, it'd be a very dumb thing to lie about. SZandex would be able to rat you out the next day (assuming town, etc)

@anyone: if you vigilante killed someone, speak up, it's not a scumtell but I can't figure out the reasoning and am starting to buy the soul link thing

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Like a hot potato? I assumed he'd "armed" the bomb and then mailed it to you last night. Then it's not technically a detriment... it's just him trying to neutralize you.

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@Liberty: Did the message come from piano? That'd be a red flag, most likely scum trying to prevent you from using protection so as to kill you tonight. It might be worth getting someone with a protect ability to work with you (anonymously before someone calls it, ugh) to keep you protected for the night.

@Dudesoft I think "doctor" was blob, his ability saved people from death, right? Having a roleblocker on scum isn't unusual at all, the idea is to counter town's abilities. I would also be *extremely* careful about using that double vote power tonight and onwards -- if scum has an extra vote there's a chance they can hammer. I'm partially worried about this today, even.

My power failed night 1. I received no message why.

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re: double nightkill, not sure what's up. It sure reads like mafia just straight up killed two people. Gourd had triggered none of my scum-alarms and Blob just had that weird conflict on day 1, but nowhere near something I'd think a smart vigilante would be going after.