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Final Fantasy Mafia (Game Over)
I'm in, mostly. Bacon jam will be taking priority so don't think I'm being weird if I'm not dumping the usual sort of effortposts. I will probably get carried away anyway but just a heads up.
class: Templar!
item: Ether (because my mp pool is shit)
class: Templar!
item: Ether (because my mp pool is shit)
[Game Over] Cheesecake Mafia
Yeah, I was pancake chef, so I had a way to immediately prove my role claim if I wanted to and therefore I was absolutely unconcerned with racking up suspicion on myself. Thus being aggressive as hell whenever I wanted.
I'm kind of sad the neutrals decided to side with town instead of being shifty and backstabbing and generally playing towards their win conditions but I guess that's fine. Wouldn't have gotten a night 2 win without Frogge. I also sympathize with the "I get way too emotionally invested in mafia" people haha. I don't know what generated three times as many posts in this thread in half the time as last game but it was a little alarming.
@Ratty Not sorry I scumhunted you though haha. That's pretty impressive you managed to correctly identify sooz as scummy on night 1 though.
I'm kind of sad the neutrals decided to side with town instead of being shifty and backstabbing and generally playing towards their win conditions but I guess that's fine. Wouldn't have gotten a night 2 win without Frogge. I also sympathize with the "I get way too emotionally invested in mafia" people haha. I don't know what generated three times as many posts in this thread in half the time as last game but it was a little alarming.
@Ratty Not sorry I scumhunted you though haha. That's pretty impressive you managed to correctly identify sooz as scummy on night 1 though.
[Game Over] Cheesecake Mafia
author=Cap_H
Just take a look at votes from the first day.
Voted against IF, right? This really doesn't tell us too much.
[Game Over] Cheesecake Mafia
Yeah if sooz flips town Ratty should be poisoned.
@piano Cap_H has been trying to be helpful, yeah, it's just process of elimination. See my original list here: https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/21148/?post=757847#post757847
I had down as not cleared: Ratty, IF, Marrend, Cap_H, YM, sooz
If Ratty is to be believed, he's seer. IF's claim clears him. Marrend is dead and scum. Sooz will be dead (and scum). That just leaves YM and Cap_H.
@piano Cap_H has been trying to be helpful, yeah, it's just process of elimination. See my original list here: https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/21148/?post=757847#post757847
I had down as not cleared: Ratty, IF, Marrend, Cap_H, YM, sooz
If Ratty is to be believed, he's seer. IF's claim clears him. Marrend is dead and scum. Sooz will be dead (and scum). That just leaves YM and Cap_H.
[Game Over] Cheesecake Mafia
There is no hammer. Whether this is a good thing is very questionable
I was calling for a claim because I'm worried about a specific play where the waiter's ability is silent and cave is actually scum lying about the PM. By disguising sooz last night, it's possible she flips scum despite actually being town. But in this case, the real seer would be able to call it out immediately tomorrow, so, maybe not as much of a problem as I thought, considering that the seer would then know that both cave and ratty were the only remaining scum. So play on I guess?
I was calling for a claim because I'm worried about a specific play where the waiter's ability is silent and cave is actually scum lying about the PM. By disguising sooz last night, it's possible she flips scum despite actually being town. But in this case, the real seer would be able to call it out immediately tomorrow, so, maybe not as much of a problem as I thought, considering that the seer would then know that both cave and ratty were the only remaining scum. So play on I guess?
[Game Over] Cheesecake Mafia
author=Soozauthor=psy_wombatsThat is severely stupid and I would rather I die than the Seer die. The Seer is town's best hope in this game. I explained this already.
What you /could/ do is beg the seer to roleclaim and save you. Because if you're town, you would know Ratty isn't the real seer.
From tomorrow onwards, scum will have had two nights to disguise themselves as town. The seer's results can't be trusted. That Marrend died undisguised means that he wasn't disguised last night. The waiter can take tonight to disguise themself to be immune to the seer.
[Game Over] Cheesecake Mafia
author=Sooz
What am I supposed to defend myself WITH?! What can I possibly say? I'm just regular town so I don't have a role to claim, I have been nothing but helpful to town the entire time, and y'all just go along with Ratty's insane thing which holds up to MUCH less scrutiny than the Marrend thing WHICH I WAS ON ALL ALONG AND YOU GUYS DIDN'T BELIEVE ME.
If you're scum, you would know Marrend was unable to continue and about to be modkilled. Bussing him would be a good idea in that case. Otherwise yeah, this would hold up.
What you /could/ do is beg the seer to roleclaim and save you. Because if you're town, you would know Ratty isn't the real seer.
@Liberty: do you see any value in the seer staying hidden as opposed to counterclaiming Ratty immediately? We'd have one (disguised) scum left, the seer would not be very helpful.
[Game Over] Cheesecake Mafia
Thanks IF. I see no reason to disbelieve you -- the real healer could easily counterclaim if you weren't.
@ratty While it's not a /great/ move it's not exactly a bad one haha, now it's mostly between Cap_H and YM. Peach healer isn't exactly someone scum would want to prioritize killing. If he claimed chef or something then it'd be a little dangerous.
@piano Yours was about as useful as IF's, honestly. They accomplish the same thing except for yours potentially saves the seer from outing themself over a false positive.
I also realize I no longer have any idea why scum would use the waiter's ability on CAVE. Unless, of course, he's the last scum. Which isn't looking that unlikely, actually.
@ratty While it's not a /great/ move it's not exactly a bad one haha, now it's mostly between Cap_H and YM. Peach healer isn't exactly someone scum would want to prioritize killing. If he claimed chef or something then it'd be a little dangerous.
@piano Yours was about as useful as IF's, honestly. They accomplish the same thing except for yours potentially saves the seer from outing themself over a false positive.
I also realize I no longer have any idea why scum would use the waiter's ability on CAVE. Unless, of course, he's the last scum. Which isn't looking that unlikely, actually.
[Game Over] Cheesecake Mafia
author=Kloe
Jeez, did I not just clarify, WAITER DOES NOT SWAP ROLES, JUST CHANGES, I only just clarified that ONE PAGE AGO >.>
Ahahaha alright, I read your clarification as "they actually change roles, not just change their appearance." Kloe, just to be clear, it doesn't actually change roles, right? Just the appearance to seer and when they flip?
If that's the case then, back to the original plan: Seer, if you're around, consider counterclaiming. Scum past tonight are likely to be disguised and we save a day.