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author=Blobofgoo
So far both breadcrumbed and chef are aiding with town. I think we should leave them for now.
Knowing who breadcrumbed is means we can trust all seer investigations so that's a +
They'll side with town until they get the "deal they can't refuse." It sucks but they have to go before the endgame.
LockeZ the only problem with that plan is it means that the spice salesmen knows exactly who to roleblock. Actually this is a problem with all plans involving Frogge trying to kill anybody - spice guy can string him along for two nights and then kill him on night 3, negating any sort of utility that he'd have for town while exposed. Maybe the mafia will instead choose to hold their powers to prevent the death of scum instead of a neutral.
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It's Frogge, Liberty. He tried to deflect suspicion off himself as town by /pretending to be scum/. I believe him, but unfortunately it looks like whether he's what he says he is or not, we have to get rid of him. It's just a question of do we let him rack up some poisons first or not, like for instance by poisoning piano.
Yeah, piano, breadcrumbed would seem to be the cruel joke role. I had it modeled in the sim as "JOKER." But couldn't you evade the seer until the endgame and then win with whichever faction via glorious backstabbing? Like, the only reason I'm hesitant to believe you is because that'd mean believing you just kind of gave up :/
Yeah, piano, breadcrumbed would seem to be the cruel joke role. I had it modeled in the sim as "JOKER." But couldn't you evade the seer until the endgame and then win with whichever faction via glorious backstabbing? Like, the only reason I'm hesitant to believe you is because that'd mean believing you just kind of gave up :/
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Certain roles have PM powers, Piano. The butter spreader could contact you privately and that'd be the end of it. Maybe you even exposed yourself so that you'd be able to receive that PM.
But Cave went over this, it works like this: 3 mafia alive, 4 town, 1 confirmed breadcrumb. One mafia steps forward and says: "this is lylo. piano please vote against xxx or we'll nightkill you. eom." You win by agreeing and lose by disagreeing. Pretty easy choice.
But Cave went over this, it works like this: 3 mafia alive, 4 town, 1 confirmed breadcrumb. One mafia steps forward and says: "this is lylo. piano please vote against xxx or we'll nightkill you. eom." You win by agreeing and lose by disagreeing. Pretty easy choice.
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Yeah my vote's on piano unless he has some reason as to why having the breadcrumb around helps town. I believe him but I'd vote against him even if I didn't, so it's a moot point. This also leaves Frogge time to prove his loyalty to town.
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Good lord is this a day 1 for the books.
Piano I'm a lot more cautious about your claim than Frogge's just because I trust you'd be able to use it effectively. Given what we know about how an endgame plays out, why wouldn't we lynch you now? Eventually you'd be forced by scum to vote against us. In that case, why would you claim? It seems like that just invites us to lynch.
Liberty, Frogge's not lying. Check IF's reasoning, for one thing. He's responding too accurately for me to think he's being coached, and it's not the first time we've seen players with ostensibly neutral roles causing chaos by publicly pledging for town. The reason he's confused about his powers is because the OP originally listed the chef's power at 3 uses only, but it was changed last minute to 50% success rate.
Piano I'm a lot more cautious about your claim than Frogge's just because I trust you'd be able to use it effectively. Given what we know about how an endgame plays out, why wouldn't we lynch you now? Eventually you'd be forced by scum to vote against us. In that case, why would you claim? It seems like that just invites us to lynch.
Liberty, Frogge's not lying. Check IF's reasoning, for one thing. He's responding too accurately for me to think he's being coached, and it's not the first time we've seen players with ostensibly neutral roles causing chaos by publicly pledging for town. The reason he's confused about his powers is because the OP originally listed the chef's power at 3 uses only, but it was changed last minute to 50% success rate.
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@Cave Oh, wait, yeah no, I completely misunderstood how the two unaligned roles worked. They win by surviving not being the only survivor. This is extremely annoying. Mafia can now force a win with 3 mafia, 4 town, 1 breadcrumb, 1 chef.
@Odd lynch or lose
@IF a shitty vigilante that also happens to completely screw us over in the endgame because their win condition is compatible with scum... they might as well be mafia vigilante
@Odd lynch or lose
@IF a shitty vigilante that also happens to completely screw us over in the endgame because their win condition is compatible with scum... they might as well be mafia vigilante
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@Cave not sure I follow -- his win condition is incompatible with a mafia win, so wouldn't he be looking to harm them? Both by nightkills and voting? I haven't fully worked out endgame scenarios.