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JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)

author=Liberty
I did check Dyluck tonight and he did nothing. Boring-ass brat, that one. Doesn't clear him for scum, if there's a two-fer team but I'm more inclined to think he's safe.

I asked about this -- the nightkill does not count as a night action. So even on a one-scum team, you wouldn't see any activity from scum.


Given that, I just don't think spy and alchemist have much utility, regardless of alignment, to the point where Ozzy's claim doesn't ring alarm bells for being strictly negative utility.

I could possibly buy Dyluck=jester just because he's acted two days in a row to drag the game out, but Clint=jester still makes a lot more sense.

JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)

If we were in scum-cahoots with Liberty, I sure wouldn't be voting to kill her with only hours left in the day.

And I agree that that's /why/ she posted that, but "trying to appear towny on the brink of death" is a trait shared by both town and scum. I guess though yeah, reconsidering, it does make sense to both claim as spy and nk the doc because it makes the spy claim look 100% legit.

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author=Dyluck
However, my biggest sus is still most likely Psy. Plus even though he talked like he was gonna vote Libby when Ozzy was still a possibility, he never actually did vote her until the very end when it was looking bad for Libby and he jumped in and voted. It could be both Libby AND Psy.

I voted when I did because someone needed to die yesterday. You can't win a game without daykilling people (which is why no-kill is anti-town). There's no advantage to keeping people alive if you're unsure of their alignment as it just results in a larger suspect pool when you're eventually forced to vote -- scum kills people who look towny, not suspicious people. I'm worried the game is going to come down to an endgame with like, 4+ posters with 4 posts each still alive and no evidence to decide which among them is scum.

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Welp. Before the flip I was 90% convinced that scumteam was Liberty+Dyluck with the way Dyluck leapt in to save her. And while I guess yeah it's possible the PRs aren't specified as town PRs specifically, I now think Dyluck/Liberty is an impossible team because Dyluck was the one to point it out.

Actually, I think Liberty's claim has to be legit. If she was scum, she wouldn't post that then kill Shinan based on that information. She'd just keep shut.

I'm trying to think how the train on Ozzy looks knowing that Shinan is town and Liberty is probably town. It doesn't say anything about EggbertX because they started it. I'm town-y on Ozzy as well (if less a bit now) so guess that's a wash.

@Liberty: did you spy on anyone tonight?

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I got clarification -- I am dumb, majority vote will kill even without hammer. So if people are around it is possible to do something that isn't killing Libby -- I think she's a pretty good choice but would prefer Dy.

JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)

Sorry, phone posting and this is likely my only hour of availability today.

I don't think Ozzy's claim is useful one way or another to evaluate him -- it's strictly negative utility, unverifiable, and would work well as a fakeclaim because it isn't a listed role. I still think his voters are more likely to be scum than him.

There's no reason for Clint to be targeted for the night kill, by me or anyone else. I don't think that argument is in good faith.

I don't think there are votes to kill anyone but Liberty today regardless but if it were possible to kill him I'd vote Dyluck.

#cancel
#vote Liberty

JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)

There were 8 hours before the deadline then and no way to swing enough votes, which is why I'm trying to round up people into the thread (to not great success)

re: Ozzy, I don't see why his being peaceful would be suspicious, or why that would indicate he's the joker rather than scum. Joker would be playing to get daykilled. So, yes, I agree with your thinking that scum might have more information, but my conspiracy theory is that you are scum and tried to NK Ozzy, but Ozzy was protected by the doc. But all you know is that the kill failed, and that could be caused by Ozzy being the joker.

The reason I'm not acting on that is I think it's very likely one of the voters on the Ozzy train is scum, and that would be mutually exclusive with Dyluck=scum.

JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)

author=Eggbertx
A day spent not lynching someone is a day spent implicitly enabling the mafia.

I agree with the thinking, but curious why you single out Ozzy versus the other no-kill voters.

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author=oddRABBIT
Okay, so to sum it up, people are trying to find the Joker, and the choices are Ozzy, Dyluck, and Clint or something?

Um... Do I really have anything to add? I don't really know what to think right now.

I don't think hyperfocusing on the joker is productive -- for one thing, I'm 95% it's Clint, and for another, jokerhunting isn't scumhunting and even if they were identified for sure there'd be nothing to do about it.

You need to vote, though. Killing requires 5 votes and there are likely only 6 town.


I kind of think Liberty looks the worst as far as scum goes -- she gave Ozzy the ~finger of suspicion~ after EggbertX/Shinan voted for him and I also don't think her argument is great. I don't like the positioning of the (non-)vote.


author=Dyluck
I'm just sus of you, that you don't sus Shinan for the very same reason as me.

How very selective of you...

I'm still interested in why Ozzy=joker, and for actual scumhunting reasons not jokerhunting ones

JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)

I don't see any evidence for Ozzy being the joker. I don't see any evidence for Dyluck being the joker. I don't see any evidence for Shinan being the joker (I am pretty sure he's mostly played by dropping context-free votes early on, I'm not sure I've ever seen scum-Shinan?)

The joker looks to be clint, who has only posted nonsense and no-kill votes, and the no-kill votes at minimum are anti-town. So as much as I want to murder him, best not.

@Liberty: why are you voting Dyluck if you think he's jester?

@clint: vote for someone -- on the off-chance you're town, voting "kill nobody" is a guaranteed strategy to lose