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Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
author=psy_wombats
@cave: I'd be interested in your role name.
unfortunately I'm extremely committed to the fake role name of Duelist now

I don't really like this evasiveness, mainly because of of the junk Odd was doing in 2 out of his 3 posts this game -- speculating on Cave's role name and ability for some reason, after the power had already been used:
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/25509/?post=915160#post915160
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/25509/?post=915173#post915173
I really have no idea what would lead him to do this regardless of alignment, but that the name of the role is something cave would prefer to keep concealed makes me think Odd's speculation is relevant. (also not thrilled that he doesn't care about the vote outcome, but w/e)


@Gourd: the point isn't "cave dueled scum, therefore he's evil," the point is "scum cave is known to behave like this, don't cross him off your scum list." Because everyone seems really fast to clear him immediately for a play he'd totally make as scum. And because Odd just had that one, two-sentence post, I'd kind of be more inclined the think the duel was because of prior knowledge vs deduction or even just chance.


also I'm laughing at Cap FOS'ing Liberty for having an "easy take" in the same post that he lists Gourd as a townread

Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

author=Gourd_Clae
Voting liberty is funny but I honestly think Ozzy and psy are 5x more suspicious. Ozzy for the reasons cave said, but psy, because psy is already trying to play the 'maybe cave, threw his scum partner under the bus' card that ozzy did preemptively.

He has done that exact thing before. Last time it was piano, and piano was piiiiissed. And like if you had had a 1-shot duelist power, would you really use it on Odd, on D1, after one post?

author=Gourd_Clae
Besides, psy was against odd getting lynched before the dueling business as well. He switched pretty quickly to odd, but at that point, I want to say it was kind of obvious that it was in best interest of scum to do so.

I switched from Odd->Cave after Cave indirectly claimed to be multishot and Odd claimed a plausible PR. For some reason my initial Odd vote wasn't counted in the tally at the point, but, it was the first vote, and I was 100% honest about my reasoning behind it (that if cave was right, I would look like an idiot if I wound up on the wrong side of it. and lo and behold I look like an idiot)


@cave: I'd be interested in your role name.

Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

@cave: you don't think Cap would do that waffling? It's possible he just showed up later than he would've liked to get a good spot on the Odd train.

re: Ozzy: It didn't seem clear to me that Odd votes would outnumber Cave votes before Ozzy swapped, what with Cap abstaining and my vote switching away from Odd. Ozzy also did call that he would switch in case of ties. I really do think if Ozzy had shut up and Odd had voted, things could've looked different.

That said, Liberty case is solid and is basically along what I was thinking, I am pretty okay with that call.

Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

Well, one way he could've known Odd was scum is that he was Odd's scumpartner. Cavedog has pulled the "scum who duels their partner d1" play literally on this site before -- I'd almost be more trusting of him if he'd hit town.

I have no idea what's up with Fomar's alignment showing, but I'm not really concerned about it -- it doesn't really seem relevant if he got nightkilled.

If the remaining outlaw isn't Cave, some thoughts on the duel voting: I think it would've been clear from the outset that Odd was going to lose the duel after probably like, Liberty's #3 vote. Oddrabbit never even bothered to vote Cave. So I don't think scum was ever interested in actually getting Odd the tie/victory. After my voteswap, I think if Ozzy shut up and Odd showed up, it was still possible to turn that around, so Ozzy at least looks townish there. Cap's non-vote I think is the most suspicious thing in there because it looks like testing the waters, and if he thinks killing Cave is a mistake, the only alternative is killing Odd. Liberty's position on the Odd vote might be suspicious as well if she was trying to get in early on the train but that strikes me as less likely.

Atiya I think is pretty firmly town. Doubt they would put down the first vote for Cave after 3 votes for Odd, and scum-Atiya wouldn't be concerned about a tie.

Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

My read would be Odd town-ish (don't think role is a lie, role seems weak for scum), Cave neutral --

If there's such a thing as an unlimited duelist, then no way does town have that (especially considering how watered-down Odd's role looks). If being unlimited is a townish lie, it's not like making that lie hinders scumteam in any way if it does turn out Cave is scum. That a tied duel kills the duelist would make singleshot duelist seem more townish I guess, but, it's not like I have any other voting options.

Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

author=OzzyTheOne
I have no idea what psy is trying to say here. It sounds like a whole lot of nothing.

I'm trying to say a tie kills both duelists. That's not inherently bad, especially because I specifically remember a game where scum-Cave dueled a very angry scum-Piano on day 1. (which was hilarious, but, it means even Odd were to flip scum it wouldn't confirm cave)


but yeah, as stated, my "actual reason" for voting Cave is that I'm skeptical about town having a multishot duelist.

Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

author=AtiyaTheSeeker
Crap, we're tied right now. Anyone? Ozzy...? ._.

I was going to reply to this that I'd be around until EOD and willing to unmake ties, but after rereading, ties kill both duelists. I'm not sure what to think about this for the moment, but it's worth pointing out.

Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

I considered you were either A lying about shot-limitedness in an attempt to draw the nightkill (note: unproductive because I'm not scum and therefore can't nightkill you over it) or B lying about being town (as AE did mention scum were expected to have high-power roles in this format).

Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

#cancel
#lynch cavedog

I refuse to believe the duel power is both town-aligned and not shot limited.

I don't think Odd is lying about his power (not that it couldn't be a scum power).

Sheriff Mafia (GAME OVER)

#lynch OddRabbit

The only thing worse than cavedog gloating would be killing cavedog when he was correct, because then he'd get to do selfrighteous gloating in deadchat.