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JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)

author=Liberty
That's enough for me. Our PI died so we could know you were a naughty, naughty boy.

There's no PI reading that could differentiate scum from jester. They'd both show up vanilla.

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Liberty I definitely won't suspect you if you retract your vote haha. I'm basically assuming Liberty=town at this point to reason effectively about anything.

like, he's one away from hammer, c'mon

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Color tags aren't copied if you're c/p'ing from your pm anyway. It's in both town and scum's interest to make their claims as believable as possible, so him manually (mis-)applying the formatting is a null tell at best.


@Dyluck: would be willing to vote for someone other than yourself today? In a universe where you're town pretending to me joker to salvage the game, you realize it can't actually be won with your vote on someone other than scum yeah? I hadn't realized that yes town does need the mercy of jester to win here

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For one thing, the timing is a desperation play for joker or town, not scum. Scum failing their wincon here doesn't end the game, but for the jester/town, it does. Hell, I'm ready to believe Dyluck is town before he's scum, in which case good job Dyluck because this is like the only thing that would prevent me voting against you thereby losing us the game.

Basically, the only reason I didn't think Dyluck was the joker today was because he didn't self-vote at the end of the day yesterday, which I guess is sufficient
author=Dyluck
I am in fact the Joker, and yes I would have won the game at the end of Day 3 with a self vote. That was the plan all along, if I wasn't so mad that I didn't want to play anymore at the time. In my mind now, I already won the game at the end of Day 3. And now with a lynch on me all but imminent, I probably would have won again anyways. For me, there's no need to officially win the game here anymore, so I'm going to try something else instead.



actual scumhunting
#cancel
#vote OzzyTheOne
that was a dumb vote on my part, I felt like I had to offer an alternative to the Dyluck train, but a miskill today is the same as killing the joker, so just going to have to get everyone on board, so prepare for teethpulling

I don't think analyzing the color of Ozzy's claim has any merit. Revisiting it again, what I do think matters is that it's non-interactive. Spy and alchemist only make sense in a world where there are a bunch of interactive night powers to act with. So take a look at those powers:
- spy: night-activated, "meta" ability that detects other night-activated abilities, vague town utility
- PI: night-activated, "meta" ability that detects other night-activated abilities, vague town utility
- alch: night-activated, "meta" ability that affects other night-activated abilities, vague town utility
And then you have priest, which is strictly negative utility and does not interact with any other confirmed role. I also like the way Ozzy has been using it to drop early votes with it as an excuse when at no point have we been in a place where a hammer was likely, let alone Ozzy needing to drop one.

Most of what I was thinking was town-y was I think backing up EggbertX who has been null to townish for me. Going for the spy=evil suggestion from Dy looks slightly worse now that I'm convinced Liberty is town (or I'm at least prepared to stake the game on it).


I think whoever the alchemist is should claim now. Dyluck wasn't wrong when he brought up that neither Ozzy nor I were using that process-of-elimination reasoning, and my 'why' probably only makes sense once we see who the alchemist actually is. Anyone else with a negative utility role should probably claim too, within reason.

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I am not voting for Dyluck today under any circumstances.



#vote Eggbertx who is the only other person I think a vote can be mustered against right now, although scum-Ozzy is slightly more likely. More in a sec, I refreshed and *stuff* happened.

@Odd @Eggbertx: please post who you think is scum and for the love of god don't vote dyluck

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lol


@Dyluck: who do you think is joker?

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author=Dyluck
I think Psy is the Scum, because he was the last to hop on the Liberty train, and also the last to hop on the Waka train.

Liberty was the only kill available at that point in the day, and my WaKa vote was a last minute switch away from you. Which wasn't the right play given his flip, but it wasn't a /scum/ play unless us two are the scum team. Your scumbuddy's someone else, sorry.

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author=Liberty
I don't see anything in the rules stating that, and both Ozzy and I had 3 votes on day 2, so we should have been killed then. Also, it said 5 to lynch, not 'highest number at days end gets lynched'. Did I miss an Emily post that confirmed that?

Yeah, sorry, I was also thinking it was hammer or nothing and was posting under that assumption for like a day and a half.

And I really wish I could tell what Clint was breadcrumbing -- I completely missed that he might be talking about Eggbert instead of Dyluck, but then like is that later post about flavors supposed to actually be about Dyluck instead? and he'd have no way to ID if a person was actually scum or not, just if they were vanilla. Which is still useful, but not something you could put a vote on early.

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Happy LYLO everyone!

Two takeaways from Clint:
- I don't think Clint was actually being insane with this post: https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/26033/?post=928698#post928698 -- I think he was trying to say he's voting Dyluck based on his vanilla/not-vanilla status. He explicitly mentions "vanilla" in there. I think he's trying to say that Dyluck /isn't/ vanilla?? but why would that make Clint want to kill him rrrgh
- Scum know who the joker is from the failed night 1 kill. Or at least they think they do, to the point where they were confident enough it wasn't Clint to actually go after him


I think Dyluck has to be 1/2 of scumteam. I don't think he's town for the reasons mentioned yesterday (mostly riding Liberty all d2 but opting not to kill her). Dyluck isn't joker because if he was, he could've self-voted in this post and won the game. Joker maybe is Oddrabbit? who is conducting an exercise in lurking so aggressively that he's cast zero votes so far, a strategy which has gotten him daykilled in like a dozen other games.

Can't tell who my other scum suspect is. Ozzy's roleclaim is very very dubious in that it's unproveable negative utility... and there's multiple town roles with actual (mild) positive utility out there. But I don't think his actions so far have been at all scummy, minus throwing a vote at me. It is impossible for me to judge EggbertX but I think it'd be really, really weird for Eggbert+Dyluck to be the scumteam when they were the first two votes on WaKa. That'd be a good play I guess? but it'd just be really brazen.

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author=Dyluck
Geez, calm your titties, calamititty.

like come ON in what universe does this make someone want to daykill you less haha