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This page is for discussion of the artistic side of content creation, such as writing and characterization, as well as for the posting of incomplete content for the purpose of receiving feedback from each other.

Feel free to discuss characters and stories you are working on.
The old Custom Content thread can be found here. The first archived artistic discussion thread can be found here.

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author=Dozen
Kevin might be dev of the month againx3 (should make a page for those in the end)
Horray! Let's get to work then x3

author=BDFalcon
I also haven't really gotten much done due in no small part to my mind currently jumping between three developmental states: Work on my Heartache 101 stuff, work on my current comic idea and improve my art skills, work on my fighting game. If I could make any tangible progress in the first and third, I'd be very happy.
Well, there is kinda something tachie related again. I mentioned the creation of a rich girl's school a while back that I was going to make available for creators to make characters for. I've finally decided on a final detail that's been driving me nuts and now I'm ready to post the uniforms final appearance. I might just retcon it into a co-ed school, but that's not important.
Know the feels :s
Wait. You have a comic too? x3

Flawless coloring and... Colored ties :DD
I always thought that we should have them at Hayauchi high but, that would make a lot of havoc with custom and built-in chars, overlapping nearly all rules one could remember...
Spaking of Havoc...

author=JaeJaeAgogo
Sure, if you want! I'm going to make the character based on what they look like, so it's your call. :)
It's dangerous to load a loose cannon like this ya' know, one may end up with something between Kemonomimi, alien or android girls x3
Whoever, I tried to stick with the theme and made two (human) girls reasonably close to the presets you had chosen. (90% of the expressions are the same.)
This doesn't mean that I haven't ran insane and used all experimental stuff I had though. (Including that dress which should have been completed months ago for Ertad)


Wait, this hair colors, the heights, chest sizes, my mind is making references without notice it. ._.
Anyways, DL link :D


author=BDFalcon
-EDIT- Ah! I also meant to request that Eienji Rie and Ichini Sanshi be put into the 'Other' section of Kevincalanor's ClassChart. I'd request more, but they're the only ones I know the classification of for sure yet. ^.^;

Chart updated! ^^

PS. Showroom post beta list updated! Now with 4 betas ^^
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I kinda want to put Kevin's chart on the top portion of the page for even easier reference. That's just me, though.

*Edit: Did I, or did I not make a post that detailed which characters are considered "in progress/demos", and who made them? I swear, I made that post!
author=Marrend
Did I, or did I not make a post that detailed which characters are considered "in progress/demos", and who made them? I swear, I made that post!

That would come very handy for further reference, so probably there's already one lost somewhere around x3

I made a .txt with the IDs and what I found about them to track the betas but, as I already said a few times, I bypass stuff every now and then when scouting. :\ (just like I probably missed this chart)

Also, there's one thing I wanted to ask out and forgot on the last post.
I fell some lack of info around the betas, a "sanity level" (Yeah, I rly liked that chart x3) or a "description tweet". Something that gives you a idea of how the girl are before playing her, without creating spoilers.
I just can't get anything of the such the right way. >.>
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Well, until I find that post (if I find it), here's the list of characters I have in my notes as "in progress":

ID 20 = Sakuragawa Fuyuki (Fuyuki)
ID 26 = Tanaka Yoko (triad2/Noone42)
ID 27 = Katanashi Seira (triad2/Noone42)
ID 28 = Lambaria Yuu (KimotoDragoon)
ID 36 = Murakami Megumi (Render)
ID 39 = Momohana Nami (GloopMaster)
ID 40 = Konohana Midori (LordNight)
ID 41 = Natsume Rika (LordNight)
ID 43 = Hasegawa Kanon (LordNight)
ID 44 = Kirihara Kana (LordNight)
ID 70 = Shiraki Kotone (BasedMG)

I may attempt to hunt specific posts for these characters later. Also, Darigaaz, I vaguely recall Tsukino Emi! She's not on my list anywhere, though. Probably because I was waiting on an update that changed her ID so that it doesn't overlap. It's been two years, so, uh...

*Edit: Yes, Yuu is considered "in progress", as her creator has specified, on the few occasions where he/she/it/they/whatever posts, the intention of creating seven additional characters to go along with Yuu.

*Edit2: Oh, right. I guess the original release of the Wolfpack would be considered "in progress" content, now that I think about it. I may have labeled it as "unavailable content" when Kevincalanor came back, and was like, "I'm re-working this from practically the ground-up."
author=Kevincalanor
It's dangerous to load a loose cannon like this ya' know, one may end up with something between Kemonomimi, alien or android girls x3
Whoever, I tried to stick with the theme and made two (human) girls reasonably close to the presets you had chosen. (90% of the expressions are the same.)
This doesn't mean that I haven't ran insane and used all experimental stuff I had though. (Including that dress which should have been completed months ago for Ertad)

So many Tachie, thank you! I got started the profile for the girl on the left yesterday, I think I'll enjoy this. You can throw me anything, hehe~

Are ID numbers 76 and 77 taken?
author=JaeJaeAgogo
So many Tachie, thank you! I got started the profile for the girl on the left yesterday, I think I'll enjoy this. You can throw me anything, hehe~

Are ID numbers 76 and 77 taken?

I'm glad you liked ^^
Yep, they are. :\

ID 73 = (Reserved for LorSquirrel)
ID 74 = Yamisaki Eliza {Kevincalanor, Wolfpack, unpublished}
ID 75 = Yamisaki Alessa {Kevincalanor, Wolfpack, unpublished}
ID 76 = Nakamura Yuriko {Kevincalanor, Wolfpack, unpublished}
ID 77 = Sakamoto Ysuki {Kevincalanor, unpublished}
ID 78 = (Temporary reserve for Kevincalanor)
ID 79 = Empty
ID 80 = Hashimoto Midori {Ertad, unpublished}


I don't really mind about changing my reserves placing, (including Ysuki as she don't have a real amount of stuff atm.) but Yuriko play a secondary role on Eliza's route and changing her ID now would end up delaying the release of the WolfPack.
Can I suggest the IDs 96 and 97? Both are clear. ^^
(You can check-up the full ID list on the Technical tab)

Side note: A little before the release of the beta Yuriko's surname where changed from 'Nakamura' to 'Sakamoto' because of duplicates. :p


author=Marrend
Oh, right. I guess the original release of the Wolfpack would be considered "in progress" content, now that I think about it. I may have labeled it as "unavailable content" when Kevincalanor came back, and was like, "I'm re-working this from practically the ground-up."

The funny part is, when I came back the plan was to just drop off the completed route without further delays or betas, as I had the English fixed from a freind at DeviantArt.
Somewhy, I decided to review the files. The "ShadowWolf Eliza" from Extinction wasn't someone able to fall in love with someone in a short TimeSpan like 101 days after all, so mistakes were likely to happen on the conversion to a still shady Schoolgirl. And found a considerable amount of problems.
In the end, the first and last beta are both, completely different and disturbingly similiar, there's a few of scenes that stood the same through nearly 2 years, while a few were completed re-worked to make more sense. x3
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At this juncture, I'd like to note that Wowzer_ was able to "sneak past" the reservation process because Robin Clark was pretty much done on-arrival. That's not to say that there wasn't some quality review (OH, HI!), but, the usual processing was skipped. JaeJae? I've not seen anything of his/her/it's/their content yet.

So, JaeJae, if you want IDs officially reserved until you're done with you content, I would like to see some kind of summary about the character(s), maybe a summary of her (His? Their?) profile(s) as well. Also, a sample tachie (Tachies?) couldn't hurt.

*Edit: Well, gee, I guess doing a CG picture-ending might be a thing for Wolfpack? The sunset one might be appropriate, at any rate. *Possibly reading too much into things*
author=Marrend
Well, gee, I guess doing a CG picture-ending might be a thing for Wolfpack? The sunset one might be appropriate, at any rate. *Possibly reading too much into things*

I already made one x3
I've made it after the first beta, so it's only on Render's version of the files, with a resorting of the ending.

Sadly, with the latest tachie related updates, the CG's is now outdated.

I plan on remaking it as a different picture, in other place and outfit, but still not sure if it'll get off the ground.

Other than that, here's the latest, last, beta version, including the most recent tachies x3
Aside from the English correction and minor tachie set-ups (That will be made after the correction) it's the final version of Eliza route.

By the way, just noticed that due having two installs of Heartache I ended up forgetting to put Megumi's beta on the Showroom all this time, sorry :\

To Render:
The .txts of course, remain the same. But, I've noticed that I derped around and was written the ending two times on them, one in ElizaMain and again on ElizaExtras.
The one that was on ElizaMain, which asks for the CG on the final branch, is the right one.
Just need to cut it and paste it over the one in the Extras file. x3

author=Marrend
So, JaeJae, if you want IDs officially reserved until you're done with you content, I would like to see some kind of summary about the character(s), maybe a summary of her (His? Their?) profile(s) as well. Also, a sample tachie (Tachies?) couldn't hurt.


Call me Jae, haha. I'm doing them (the entire character) one at a time, but I plan to finish both. I haven't settled on names yet, so for now, they're #1 and #2. I'm assuming you mean a summary like this:

#1 is something more akin to what I've always wanted to see in a dating sim. She doesn't really fit into any of the generic character archetypes and if I have my way, she isn't just gonna fall head over heels for you after a few cutscenes. I'm really trying to bring out that feeling of friendship that's so rare in sims these days, in fact, the only one that comes to mind for me is Season of the Sakura. I want it to feel like people just hanging out, not a boy madly pursuing a girl.

So I guess that makes her main personality traits her friendliness. She loves people and the energy and fun they bring, which is reflected in her date location likes/dislikes. She likes places that have lots of people and aren't totally quiet or confined. Going on the theme of friendship, she actually likes nearly every gift. She appreciates the thought of you even getting her a gift at all.

I won't say she doesn't understand the matters of the heart, but she rarely thinks about them. She doesn't think she's ready for any kind of relationship, so she prefers focusing on school, family and friends. As you can see, her main trait is personality.


Also, sample tachies? Do you mean like these? If so, that's them. Thanks Kevin!
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author=JarJaeAgogo
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That kinda of thing seems fine to me. A bit curious about "#2", though.


author=JarJaeAgogo
Also, sample tachies? Do you mean like these? If so, that's them. Thanks Kevin!


I kinda thought that image was for his own characters, to be honest. Upon further inspection of it, though, fair enough.
author=Marrend
I kinda thought that image was for his own characters

This remebered of one thingy ^^

Was outlining Yuriko's route lately, although I still cannot write story's, and noticed that there's no real need to use Ysuki on the route.
Therefore, I won't be needing the IDs 77 and 78, as any NPC's I may need can be easily tossed to a second profile .txt as they won't have routes. (A NPC don't need a affection meter, so a crossover can be rigged to a copy of his profile on whatever ID the maker want to.)

Side note: Still running Havoc at Photoshop in the meanwhile x3
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author=Kevincalanor
Therefore, I won't be needing the IDs 77 and 78, as any NPC's I may need can be easily tossed to a second profile.


Jae was looking for two slots. You rescinded two slots. Sounds like this could be a thing. Uh, if the other devs are okay with this?
No, it's okay Kevin!96 and 97 are fine!I don't wanna compromise anyone else.

...But if you really don't need them...

And #2 isn't getting much of my attention, but I plan to make her story very emotional where #1's will be much more fun-oriented. #1 is gonna be a test run of mechanics and such, because when it comes to something like #2 I don't want to give myself room for error.
author=Marrend
Jae was looking for two slots. You rescinded two slots. Sounds like this could be a thing.
This time you are thinking too much. It would be more troublesome to Jae change his ID now instead of keeping 96. x3

The cancel is becuase all the recent ID talking brought up that I haven't gave any real info/tachies about the chars before reserving the IDs, and kept this way from about 5 months, so was about time to look over the need of keeping them.
I ended up finding a interesting concept about IDs.

I can divide my characters on two Profile types, and therefore files:
"Main" (Eliza-Yuriko-Alessa) and "Support" (Ysuki-78)

Support chars don't have a route, therefore don't have affection changes, plus, are very unlikely end up in cameos. So they don't really need a unique ID. They can be bypassed on ID lists or charts as well, so you can just skyrocket the IDs to any 3-digit number. Leaving short, organized IDs for mains.
Didn't tested it extensively but, I've play tested stories with a chars using 900 and 1023 as IDs
On the very unlikely case of a support's cameo create a ID conflict, the cameo-creator can simply copy-paste the targeted support profile somewhere with ohter ID due the lack of affection changes.

Also worth of notice, this system let's you use and hide as many characters you want to, now having a male tachie builder it sounds quite useful.
The video linked on the post went private... Crap, I'll figure out a way around this and get a DL link if needed, somehow.

Sidenote time!: We don't have a swimsuit set because most chars don't like the beach, or they dislike it because they don't have a swimsuit?
Started working on one based on Junko's model x3.
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author=Kevincalanor
This time you are thinking too much. It would be more troublesome to Jae change his ID now instead of keeping 96. x3


The impression I got from Jae was that he/she/it/they/whatever didn't have IDs for his/her/it's/theirs/whatever's characters yet? Also, the response...

author=JaeJaeAgogo
No, it's okay Kevin! 96 and 97 are fine!I don't wanna compromise anyone else.

...But if you really don't need them...


...seemed to indicate to me that taking up those IDs was fine by Jae. The thing I was wondering about with the "other devs" comment was more directed to Dozen and dewelar. I didn't consult with anybody in regards to accepting Wowzer_'s content, so, I sorta feel inclined to get some kind of consensus with Jae's.
So I'm forcing myself to kill the incarnation(s) of writer's block and did an outline today! So far I'm outlining the introduction events for Megumi, Akane, and Fujiko. Progress is actually going pretty quickly. I'll probably post a very beta version of this bunch of things in early October. Hopefully sooner.

EDIT: Kevin, I'm going to try finishing the rest of Eliza's files in October. Correction: It WILL be done in October.
author=Render
So I'm forcing myself to kill the incarnation(s) of writer's block

Please don't kill people in your head. Use diplomacy.

and did an outline today!

+1
author=Dozen
author=Render
So I'm forcing myself to kill the incarnation(s) of writer's block
Please don't kill people in your head. Use diplomacy.

Dozen, I wasn't being literal o_O
It was just a figure of speech.
Delayed post again...

Was expecting to combo it with the next release of Comet's custom parts pack but a few parts aren't cooperating. >.>
Would post pictures of the complete ones, but I used them already. <.<

Anyhow on a more important note...
author=Render
So I'm forcing myself to kill the incarnation(s) of writer's block and did an outline today! So far I'm outlining the introduction events for Megumi, Akane, and Fujiko. Progress is actually going pretty quickly. I'll probably post a very beta version of this bunch of things in early October. Hopefully sooner.

EDIT: Kevin, I'm going to try finishing the rest of Eliza's files in October. Correction: It WILL be done in October.

Thanks, I need to hurry up and re-do the ending pic x3
I have recently started working on two custom characters (one of them is my avatar.) Anyway, I'm looking for some music for their themes and don't know where to start.

EDIT: I now have pictures. Also, mind if I reserve two IDs?


This is Tomomi, ID 200. Wants to be an industrial mechanic.


This is Keiko, ID 201. Wants to be a veterinarian.