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This page is for discussion of the artistic side of content creation, such as writing and characterization, as well as for the posting of incomplete content for the purpose of receiving feedback from each other.

Feel free to discuss characters and stories you are working on.
The old Custom Content thread can be found here. The first archived artistic discussion thread can be found here.

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Hmmm... I'll give the first idea a whirl, but the second one sounds like the one I'll most likely end up having to do. Thanks for the ideas and other such relevant knowledge. ^.^

I would say to expect a release for the supernatural character in question soon, but well... ya, you know me. ^.^;

(Though I was going to release her neutral tachie, it no longer suits her due to recent character changes.)
Scout is in, I'm posting a little less but still keep track of every post ^^

author=Render
Also a note to Kevincalanor, great content so far with Eliza.
I got to the part where I asked Yuriko (I'm not quite sure if that's her name.) about the fight with Eliza and some guy on the track team. Well, and then, I got yelled at by Eliza because she overheard a conversation between the player and Miki.

She's a great character that has a lot of variety to her. Keep writing, I'm interested as to what the other routes will be. And also, if you need help with grammar mistakes OR spelling, I'd be willing to help. ^_^

Thanks a bundle ^^
The Eliza's story is almost complete at that beta, just need to update to the new (non-generic) ending, however like the built-ins the plot can be called closed at the Eliza's last event. :p

Edit: I don't have much trouble with spelling, due the Notepad spellcheckers, but I really could use some help with grammar. :p

author=BDFalcon
Sooo... I'm gonna go ahead and ask a very late question that I personally consider is incredibly stupid of me to ask as I'm sure I can learn the answer myself just by doing a little backtracking, by possibly even just a page or so, and by remembering that Ertad listed a Magical Girl as one of the characters that he is planning on making however long ago and no one batted an eye over it and since, ultimately, we individually decide what we want our stories/characters to be thus making this whole thing irrelevant and that I should just ask the question instead of ranting:

Supernatural Story Elements = Okay? ^.^;

Also, I've been wondering (and be sure to tell me if you think this question is better suited for the technical thread) is there any practical measure that can be taken to ensure that the players downloading your character can't easily view the associated tachie folder? I only wonder as such due to the fact that my works will very likely have spoilers contained within said tachie folders.

Sure they are, also I have that Cat-girl on my to-do list. ^^
Just keep in mind to give some tips before the major supernatural event occur, to avoid misunderstood and stuff.

You can also change the folder icon on the Properties-customize to prevent people for accidentally seeing any spoiler via folder's thumbnail, if he open the folder it's he's fault. x3
The 'Hide' function in properties worked perfectly fine, loaded in-game and everything. ^.^ I will have to leave a text file explaining either way, though. ^.^;

Now, time for the traditional completely premature posting of unfinished tachie work by BDFalcon! <CLAPS ABOUND> Well, it's only really just me clapping, and I'm doing it sarcastically... but hey, you know, it's still <CLAPS>. ^.^

Say hello to Ichini Sanshi:



There's no way that's your real name.

And why not? For all you know, it could be my product number! Or it could be used to denote my being the one-thousand two-hundred thirty fourth victom of some curse!

... Wait, what?

Listen, I might look like a normal girl to you, but how do you know that's really the case? I might just happen to be a ghost, or maybe even an oni! How would you be able to prove or disprove either of those claims? Perhaps I'm just someone with eighth-grader syndrome who thinks they have some amazing super power sealed within them! Or maybe, just maybe...


(I think I was still reeling from the sheer levels of odd this girl was giving off, because it took me a moment to realize that her face was suddenly inches away from mine)

... I'm just someone who's incredibly bored who decided it would be fun to mess with some random shmuck they saw passing by?

(Noticing me involuntarily squirm from sudden discomfort, "Sanshi" drew back with a triumphant smirk on her face)

Well! That was fun while it lasted! I should try finding some place to stay tonight while there's still some sunlight.

(... I should try to avoid coming in contact with this person as much as humanly possible)

(She turned to walk away, but not before saying one last thing)


The world is full of possibilities, Ferdinand. Even some that you would never have expected.

(... Why is it always "Ferdinand"?)


Sorry about the INCREDIBLY somewhat cheesy dialogue, I just felt like I should add something a little bit more substantial than what I have on my usual "This is character x" posts. ^.^;

Feel free to tell me that what I've written there doesn't come off well enough as <player>, and if anybody wants to give me pointers on how to make it better sound like <player>, that'd be cool too. ^.^ Also, sorry about the potentially eye burning colors, couldn't think of an easier way to convey who was speaking/thinking when.

There is still a great deal of things on my to-do list regarding this character, such as actually finishing the shading and shaping of the hair, starting/finishing her actual outfit (she does not go to your school or any other Heartache associated school), and, well, actually starting the story.

Note that literally everything you've just seen is subject to change, between the levels of slight to massive.
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That sounds about right for <player> to me. The one thing that jumps out at me most is...

(Noticing me involuntarily squirm from sudden discomfort, "Sanshi" drew back with a triumphant smirk on her face)


...to kill the air-quotes around Sanshi.

Darigaaz, are random strangers calling <player> "Ferdinand" going to be a running gag now? I think I like that.
Well, the air quotes are only really there because <player> knows "Sanshi" is a fake name ("Ichini Sanshi" essentially being "Onetwo Threefour"), so I think it still fits. But, if it's actually more fitting for <player> to not use air quotes in this situation, I'm perfectly fine with removing them. ^.^
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author=BDFalcon
Well, the air quotes are only really there because <player> knows "Sanshi" is a fake name (Ichini Sanshi essentially being Onetwo Threefour), so I think it still fits.


Oh. I thought Ichini Sanshi was her real name. Like, it didn't jump out at me at all. Which just goes to show how much I know!
author=Marrend
Oh. I thought Ichini Sanshi was her real name. Like, it didn't jump out at me at all. Which just goes to show how much I know!

Well, most people I realize will only know that there's something wrong with the names (pluralized for there will be plenty) Sanshi gives out through <player>'s reactions to them. It might actually be better in the long run for the air quotes to be there. o.O

Why can't I shake the feeling that everything I say comes out sounding back handed? =.=;

-EDIT-

Alternately, though the thought makes me feel... odd, I could always have <player> say the name normally, then repeat it in it's english equivalent in a "seriously?" sort of way. It would have to be limited to the first time hearing a name, though, or it'd just end up being weird. er.
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author=BDFalcon
Alternately, though the thought makes me feel... odd, I could always have <player> say the name normally, then repeat it in it's english equivalent in a "seriously?" sort of way. It would have to be limited to the first time hearing a name, though, or it'd just end up being weird. er.

Suggestion:
ID = 0
(Ichini Sanshi? That's the same thing as counting up from one to four! That <b>can't</b> be right!)
I'll take that suggestion into consideration due to the fact that it is entirely better than anything I probably would have written. ^.^;

I am posting a final incredibly unimportant note before I'm cut off of general internet access for what will likely be weeks: Ichini Sanshi already looks almost completely different from how she looks a few posts back. =.=; So, ya... disregard that image.
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Now that Okiku, Star Apprentice is done, I can re-focus my efforts on Emiko! In fact, let me do a story-dump, since I seem to be at a point of no return:


STORY 28
CONDITION = 27 DONE
CONDITION = NOT WEDNESDAY OR NOT THURSDAY
PLACE = Market Street
ID = 25
SHOW CENTER
NEUTRAL
You look you just got dumped by, like, ten girlfriends.
UNFRIENDLY
Trying to be quite the player, aren't you, <player>?
# Bad code-based jokes are bad.
ID = 0
This has got nothing to do with anything like that.
ID = 25
NEUTRAL
Oh?
LIKE
I have <b>got</b> to hear this story!
ID = 0
Recently, I had this dream, right? In it, there was this girl that was very annoyed by me, even though I haven't done anything.
ID = 25
NEUTRAL
Sounds oddly familiar.
# Possibily a reference to yourself, Emiko?
OTHER1
Sorry.
NEUTRAL
Keep going.
ID = 0
She went on about some "Oracle of Askigaga", and how she could free her.
ID = 25
OTHER1
Oracle of Askigaga, huh?
A: 18 DONE
# Emiko doesn't know that <player> has played her content.
NEUTRAL
That's a character I made for Heartache...
DISLIKE
...that I keep getting comments about her graphics! They keep saying she looks like a joke character. That may be true, but nobody seems to actually <b>play</b> the character to see for themsleves how serious she is, or not!
UNFRIENDLY
It's really frustrating, as you can tell.
JUMP B

BRANCH A
# Emiko knows/figures <player> has played her content.
ID = 25
OTHER1
Well, we both know about <b>her</b>, now, don't we?
JUMP B

BRANCH B
ID = 0
Is there something outside of Heartache that you can tell me about that character?
ID = 25
FRIENDLY
She's a political figure, who is able to see the future of nations. She usually recieves her visions in dreams. However, sometimes, her dreams are tainted by the meeting of a veeeeery specific person.
OTHER1
A person she loved a long time ago. She loves him still, but, ultimately, she doesn't know how he's changed over the years.
FRIENDLY
She knows he <b>will</b> come to seek her, though. So, when he does, she hides her identity from him, and devises a few tests of character for him. If his actions pleases her, she will reveal to him who she is, and all the pent-up emotion spill forth. If he doesn't please her, well!
LIKE
She still reveals herself, but she does so in response to losing against him in battle. The emotional impact is there, but this time, it's a "I just killed my one-and-only love" thing.
# Behold! <i>Oracle of Askigaga</i> in a nutshell!
# This is also why I'm not so sure I want to actually MAKE <i>Oracle of Askigaga</i>. The impact of Emiko revealing her true self is not something I think I can really convey properly.
ID = 0
Whoa! Where did you come up with that?
ID = 25
OTHER1
It's... kinda embarrassing.
ID = 0
Oh, come on! You can tell me!


I know exactly where I'm going with this, and that's the problem. The story that I must relay here is a rather painful, personal tale.


*Edit: Well, I guess I don't have to relay the story in this particular moment. I can stave it off for later. It'll still be hard to write, though.
Hello 34-san ^^
She's wearing shorts under her skirt :D
Does Sanshi climb up on things or kick people often? (That's what shorts means on wolf dimension, and why Eliza also use them although not visible on tachie due usual lazyness. x3)

I feel a Haruhi energy around her and I like that, this is surely heading the right way. :3

author=Marrend
Now that Okiku, Star Apprentice is done, I can re-focus my efforts on Emiko! In fact, let me do a story-dump, since I seem to be at a point of no return:

-Hide tag-

I know exactly where I'm going with this, and that's the problem. The story that I must relay here is a rather painful, personal tale.


*Edit: Well, I guess I don't have to relay the story in this particular moment. I can stave it off for later. It'll still be hard to write, though.

Personal tales... Got a feel that's something more that custom content troubles this time. Maybe you'll be able to find a way 'round use the base concept without get it too personal...

Personal opinion now. (May include ranting, read at your own risk of getting bored.)
There's that idea which inspired me into Eliza's route. Every (real)gamer, especially those who turn into modders, have one thing or two to regret or/and to be disturbed about in RL, these miss-happenings that knocked us off the vicious circle and drove us into the 2D world, and dare I say, gave us a deeper understanding of the 3D, which is why many gamers don't like it that much by the way.

People with have common lives turn into common persons with the hobbies that are common on their respective countries. Football meh.
"Did I ever tell you, the definition of insanity?" I'm sure that mine friends at work, which are common people, wouldn't understand any meaning on Vaas lines. "He's a video game character, what he knows?"

The thing is, due our troubles we aren't common persons, if that's a bad thing it's up to each one of us choose.

Lel, I really got off track this time didn't I?

To end, honestly don't have any dimension of what this tale is, and I may be underrating or overrating it, just keep in mind that no one is here to judge the people behind these nicknames.
Anything you may think that happened to me after reading this, you're overrating it.
... apparently not weeks, but hey. ^.^;

author=Kevincalanor
She's wearing shorts under her skirt :D
Does Sanshi climb up on things or kick people often? (That's what shorts means on wolf dimension, and why Eliza also use them although not visible on tachie due usual lazyness. x3)

I feel a Haruhi energy around her and I like that, this is surely heading the right way. :3

Oh yes, she will very likely be kicking people. ^.^ Only after I was done writing that dialogue did I realize that she did indeed sound very Haruhi. It's not really a bad thing, but she'll likely be toned down just a little bit when I actually write her.

Decided I should post what I've been working on for the past few days. The near final iteration of Ichini Sanshi:

I got lazy and opted out of the custom hair. =.=; Yup, like I said earlier, almost completely different looking now. There's still a few things to do, but she's essentially complete Tachie-wise. Things left to do (for anyone potentially interested):

Re-draw and properly shade the ribbon, make a few more custom eyes (I've already made three), properly shade her -SPOILER-s for when she -SPOILER- to prove that she -SPOILER-, finish drawing/shading the shirt parts for later release as public tachie parts, and re-cut the shorts in a much less lazy way than what is seen here. =.=; (I made her shorts this time using Kevincalanor's 'Extend' tights, by the way. ^.^)
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I did some consulting with Dozen concerning Masako. She can do some pretty damn amazing things. Which reminded me of a silly song Toshie spouts in Matsumori Days:

Mitsu-ya Masako-chan!
If she can't do it no-one can!


I swear, it's in that game.

*returns to dev-cave*
author=BDFalcon
... apparently not weeks, but hey. ^.^;Oh yes, she will very likely be kicking people. ^.^ Only after I was done writing that dialogue did I realize that she did indeed sound very Haruhi. It's not really a bad thing, but she'll likely be toned down just a little bit when I actually write her.

Decided I should post what I've been working on for the past few days. The near final iteration of Ichini Sanshi:
<Picture>
I got lazy and opted out of the custom hair. =.=; Yup, like I said earlier, almost completely different looking now. There's still a few things to do, but she's essentially complete Tachie-wise. Things left to do (for anyone potentially interested):

Re-draw and properly shade the ribbon, make a few more custom eyes (I've already made three), properly shade her -SPOILER-s for when she -SPOILER- to prove that she -SPOILER-, finish drawing/shading the shirt parts for later release as public tachie parts, and re-cut the shorts in a much less lazy way than what is seen here. =.=; (I made her shorts this time using Kevincalanor's 'Extend' tights, by the way. ^.^)


Lol, people or some guy known as Ferdinand? Probably both. x3

Custom hairs... It's a pain to get all those shades/highlights right xD
Either way the outfit is awesome, which makes me remember that I still haven't released the custom outfits due laziness to make multiple arms tachies... she will be one of the outside school chars? ^^

author=Marrend
I did some consulting with Dozen concerning Masako. She can do some pretty damn amazing things. Which reminded me of a silly song Toshie spouts in Matsumori Days:

Mitsu-ya Masako-chan!
If she can't do it no-one can!


I swear, it's in that game.

*returns to dev-cave*


Mitsuya-san always there to explain details of the routes that were supposed to be beyond explanation. :3
I still researching what link she may have with a certain Mr. Norris...
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I seem to be at another good stopping point with Emiko's route. If all goes well, I could feasibly upload it... Monday? Eh, I guess we'll see.
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Okay, I may not get Emiko out on Monday. While I may have already started a playtest (Good thing too. I've swatted two bugs, and made a few corrections.), but my attention is being diverted elsewhere.
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Emiko updated!

I still need to figure out how to get where this route wants to go from where it is now. If that makes any sense.
Late response. Sorry bout' that.
author=Kevincalanor
Edit: I don't have much trouble with spelling, due the Notepad spellcheckers, but I really could use some help with grammar. :p

I could edit the file and correct the mistakes whenever I can, if you'd like.
author=Marrend
Emikoupdated!

I still need to figure out how to get where this route wants to go from where it is now. If that makes any sense.


Urrg! I still have yet to open her file again.

author=Marrend
Emikoupdated!

I still need to figure out how to get where this route wants to go from where it is now. If that makes any sense.

Thing is turning more complicate than what I thought ( That's good :3 ), Emiko indeed have some power but don't know about it, or hidding pehaps, Masako have the power to fix up even the global warming but both of them don't know her...
I wonder what these two will come up with.

You used sometimes [b instead of <b>, is seems that you're posting too much in the forums. x3

author=Render
Late response. Sorry bout' that.
author=Kevincalanor
Edit: I don't have much trouble with spelling, due the Notepad spellcheckers, but I really could use some help with grammar. :p
I could edit the file and correct the mistakes whenever I can, if you'd like.

Awesome ^^
So I'll mail you the story changes before release ;)
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author=Kevincalanor
You sometimes used "[b]" instead of "<b>". It seems that you're posting too much in the forums. x3


Funny story: Last time kentona posted stats, I ranked 11th place in total number of posts. I think I've been on the "most posts in a given month" listing since the beginning of the year.