WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW?

author=Max McGee
Can we please disable the protest avatars? They are exceedingly obnoxious. If it was just a solid image that said "Unban Magi" or whatever, fine, freedom of expression, but the constant strobing really hurts my eyes.

Ok wait me a moment, now i have a decent gif maker

Hm, I'm really loving the Lantis versions of Z Gundam's Openings. This is how 21st Century music should be done, with all the feeling and beauty of the 20th. <3

lol is that an eversion spoiler halibabiwhate'er

Drama queens unite.

you want real drama? I've lost my kitchen keys the day before I'm due to move out of this place. this is real drama.

surprisingly a week early

author=WIP
I am thinking that RMN is better off with every shmupper banned. I should have done it years ago.

Except for years you were one of us, a friend we talked with on a daily basis since 2007, before your emotional stability seemingly faltered and you decided to scapegoat us for every possible failing your site had to Magi on AIM shortly after publicly taking responsibility. Now, several months after you attempted to torch this place with little fanfare you are sitting here like a saint professing that, had only you been more vigilant you would have removed individuals for whom a rich creative environment is a true passion and as such, tried as often as possible to act as an inciting force to that achieve that end. Unfortunate that, on account of some occasional, minor friction it's so easy for you and others to forget the genuineness and earnestness with which various #shmup members wanted this site to succeed both as a quality game creation community and in terms of growth and pageviews.

Your rant to Magi over AIM shortly after your decision to close RMN seemed to indicate that you were very angry over the creation of MD, or at least its arbitrary inclusion of a forum. Let it be clear that the site was founded as a a group blog, a closed outlet for personal projects. It was not until after you'd made the formal shut down announcement that there was any intention of inviting people to post there. No, including a forum - a decision you reacted to with disproportionately intense incongruity - did not automatically mean that it was making any attempt to supplant RMN. I apologize if you felt wronged by anything regarding the creation of MD, but I remind you that even after you announced RMN's end Strangeluv asked your permission directly in IRC if it was okay to 'spam MD links', which after your approval he did so with enthusiasm.

Your assertion that we have been overly persistent in discussion of RMN strikes me as a little bizarre. It is only natural that the current affairs and state of the game making community at large is an ongoing, primary topic of discussion for a society formed around the endeavor of game making. We have observed RMN with particular scrutiny because it was created by a (former) friend and we believed it to be the most promising, last real hope for the RM scene we have participated in for a decade to thrive. One could try to make that case that there has on occasion been an overabundance of zeal in this pursuit, or that cynicism in the face of disagreeable new trends has been excessive, or that our humor has at times been self-serving and fractious, but don't forget that the bulk of #shmup frequenters acted chiefly out of vested interest for this little piece of cyberspace. When this interest seemed to be obstructed our perceived infractions have been directly proportional to our genuine dismay.

author=Karsuman
Some folks in #shmup went batso and started behaving like immature little twats, posting random shit on the forums and insulting staff members(FIGHT THE POWAR), and then some more people were banned, and some left. Check introductions for those that left.

FTR, acting like it's 1984 and wearing tinfoil hats isn't helping your case against the BOURGEOISIE guys. Posting here is a privilege, not a right, and if you wanted to say something in defense of Magi there were certainly better channels than behaving like a bunch of groupthink pack animals.

This is absolutely false. One (1) #shmup frequent (Strangeluv) made a topic asking about the ban and posted about it in a topic that was already discussing it. Strangeluv posted the following, which was inexplicably deleted;

author=Strangeluv
I dont understand how you can make a logical decision to ban someone over a harmless prank who has served for 4 years on this site and is a productive member with a featured game. If you can't see that you're overreacting and made an irrational decision to ban Magi, then fuck you, ban me too.

Another inexplicably deleted post by Strangeluv explaining his actions: http://i.imgur.com/YWkNI.jpg

Provocative to be sure. But MULTIPLE people did not post similar 'if X then f you, ban me' sentiments MULTIPLE times in MULTIPLE places. Nobody went 'batso', nobody want on a 'rampage', nobody posted numerous topics on the matter. Nobody insulted staff members when inquiring about the bans.

<@Holbert> He kept posting unban magic topics.

Okay.

Unfortunately Karsuman, automatically believing what someone tells you without looking into it for yourself is the only case of 'groupthink pack animal' behavior here.

I am sitting here wondering how this community has come to this point. The members, principles, and interpersonal dynamics have been warped to such an extent that it is largely unrecognizable. Strange how that happens over time.

author=InfectionFiles

author=WIP
I am thinking that RMN is better off with every shmupper banned. I should have done it years ago.

It's okay, they are being thinned out quite nicely now.

Christmas is July?!
<3

Who are you again? I can see you're passionate about this, but I don't think you know what you're talking about. There are about 25 more people that would have to fall under Holbert's gaze before our little society is eradicated. I doubt you know who more than five of them are, but I'm sorry you feel so strongly about it. Ignorant attitudes like this are, unfortunately, the fuel on which some of that good old #shmup cynicism has traditionally run.

god save the games

i'm out for now

later wip, i used to really enjoy discussing castlevania with you

You actually make some fair points, Ciel! My attitude has most certainly changed. Especially in regards to my own failings as the leader here. I won't shy away from the fact I wasn't a fantastic person to have in charge. I have many flaws that were shown during my time here.

I've never claimed all RMN's problems were because of #shmup. Far from the truth. Most of the site's problems were rooted in how I ran it and created it. The site was forged out of spite and competition and that is what it retained. The site has always had very lax moderation and its rooted there. Despite my dickishness, I rarely banned anyone from the site.

However, you definitely should have been banned. Your contributions to this site have only ever been words. Words are powerful, but in a supposed community of creation, they ring hollow. With your words, you help bring down others and their own creations. You prolong the poison of entitlement and superiority that this community has suffered from.

With your words, you sit in your hovel with your amigos and attempt to elevate yourself above the majority of RMN. What have you actually accomplished here? Many members of RMN have created numerous games and had a great time doing it. You certainly don't play these games, either. You seem to want to revel in the atmosphere of creation, but refuse to actually take part in it and snub your nose to those do. I have no problem with #shmup if it wasn't a giant bag of hot air.


Now as for my statement to ban #shmuppers? It's keeping the peace, plain and simple. I have no personal issue with Ciel or the others, but it's obvious their mindset is not what fits this website! The website also does not fit my own ideas. There's no reason to fight a wave of this size. There comes a point when fighting won't do anything. At this moment, it's better to just cut ties and everyone try to find their spot.

Boo! ~ Ghast

None of this would have happened if people were focused on games, which this site is all about. That's what happens when you leave too much of your social life to internet. I'll miss YDS (cause she made cool stuff, not cause she's a nice person - she's not), but other than that... meh.

Back to games now.