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Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
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THE HOMOSEXUALITY COMES COMPLETELY OUT OF NOWHERE, BAM
ACTION?

hey did you know that sexuality is something that can completely come out of nowhere, since it's just which genitalia you want to rub and not a set of actions (despite hollywood "coding" of gays, and also san francisco's existence)
Despite
When the going gets tough, go fuck yourself.
1340
BAM! ALL OF A SUDDEN I WANNA SEX YOU OUT OF NOWHERE!

I'm totally gonna use that line.
Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
15150
pretty sure that's calunio's games
Nightowl
Remember when I actually used to make games? Me neither.
1577
I suck at writing anything romantic anyway so why bother adding same-sex romance?

I'll let the drooling Rule 34 fanatics do that.
Despite
When the going gets tough, go fuck yourself.
1340
author=Craze
pretty sure that's calunio's games


Touche good sir.
author=Nightowl
I'll let the drooling Rule 34 fanatics do that.

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/shoebox/1

ha, I searched triangle too and there was 2 images >.>
Nightowl
Remember when I actually used to make games? Me neither.
1577
I decided to search Eddsworld there. Only pictures there were about Edd pouring cola on his penis or Matt making out with his clone.
The latter makes actually sense, because the character made a porn DVD of himself having sex with his clone.
author=Cozzer
It's like assuming the character has favorite foods even if he never eats in game.
A lesbian's favourite foods are pussy and more pussy unnffffff

author=Craze
THE HOMOSEXUALITY COMES COMPLETELY OUT OF NOWHERE, BAM
ACTION?

hey did you know that sexuality is something that can completely come out of nowhere, since it's just which genitalia you want to rub and not a set of actions (despite hollywood "coding" of gays, and also san francisco's existence)
OKAY SO I WAS IN VANCOUVER LAST WEEK AND HANGING OUT ON THE STREET WITH PRIDE FLAGS EVERYWHERE and I gotta admit it was actually pretty fun hanging out in a super queer area where I was allowed to walk around hand in hand with my girlfriend and have people only stare at us because we were super adorable

...especially when I went into the sex shop and found the SUPERCOCK~ anal dildo but that's another tale for another time
(it was literally called the SuperCock and it was 10" long and I have photos and everything)
Despite
When the going gets tough, go fuck yourself.
1340
emmych you're my heroine


never change, and embrace compassion.


(Protip, the SUPERCOCK was modeled after my own cock, they did a bad job representing my compassion though)
A gay man once explained when you're gay in any artform you're either oversexed or depressed. You pick one and go with it.
iddalai
RPG Maker 2k/2k3 for life, baby!!
1194
Persona 4 had a pretty good handling of a male gay character, my favorite character in the game in fact, using chairs to beat up enemies? BADASS!

But I've never played a game with a female gay character. Are there such games outside of the maker community? Probably in Japan...

Off topic, I have a few gay friends and let me tell you: "gay people are just as bad as everybody else".
author=idida
But I've never played a game with a female gay character.


Final Fantasy XIII and Suikoden V have lesbian characters.
author=Feldschlacht IV
Final Fantasy XIII


Isn't it just speculated in that game?
I literally cannot comprehend Fang and Vanille as anything other than a lesbian couple who at least have a thing for each other, if not a relationship (downplayed in the narrative of course, unlike say, Serah and Snow's engagement)
Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
15150
Same here re: FFXIII.

I guess it could come off as mother/daughter to some, but there are plenty of romantic relationships that are one person being the guardian/taking care of another (PARALLEL: Snow/Serah). It enhances the primary romance by mirroring it.
iddalai
RPG Maker 2k/2k3 for life, baby!!
1194
Damn, I forgot about XIII, I clearly remember seeing the way they interacted with each other and thinking: yup, definitely lovers.

EDIT: Oh, and I just remembered Star Ocean 3, Nel Zelpher had something with a female NPC, I think it was her superior or colleague, but I've played so long ago I can't remember.
I'm starting off here after not reading the whole topic (coming in late here). I personally have not played a game of any kind where a main character was gay. Personally, I am fine with that. I think if any member of an RPG Making community were to throw a gay person into a game just to say "I have a gay person in my game" they would make it way too over the top.

You gotta treat gay people the same way you would straight people. Mass Effect, for example, the whole asari race are bi-sexual by nature, typically seen with other females more than anything but they treat their sexuality as a normal thing and unless something about which woman is the father gets brought up or help the asari find her wife is a mission, you really don't hear much about it outside of typical emotions which is fine. In Dragon Age: Origins, one of the towns has a gay couple that run a blacksmith shop. They also happen to make the best armor for you in the game if you bring them the items. It is very apparent they are gay, one of them obnoxiously so but they do it all in a very tasteful "this is normal for us" kind of way.

Those examples are the way it should be done. If that can be done with a main character then great. If not then it should probably be strayed away from. Not all writers can create a believable, lovable gay character.
I think it's a little limiting to look at this in terms of gay and straight. For instance, in one of my projects (a story, not a game) it's a plot point that a monstrous character is attracted to certain types of blood. Some characters with such blood are male, and some are female. You could call the monster in question a GLBT character, but she doesn't think in such categories, and I think it's misleading to box her up like that.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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There's a guy in One Piece who looks like Tim Curry in Rocky Horror Picture Show. Not sure if gay or what. Certainly not to be taken seriously
Ah, I didn't know that this topic was still alive! Really sorry for my late reply - I haven't been visiting RMN's forums much recently.

author=Craze
THE HOMOSEXUALITY COMES COMPLETELY OUT OF NOWHERE, BAM
ACTION?

hey did you know that sexuality is something that can completely come out of nowhere, since it's just which genitalia you want to rub and not a set of actions (despite hollywood "coding" of gays, and also san francisco's existence)


I'm pretty sure that this was aimed at me, so I'll address this. I guess I worded what I said before improperly - when I mentioned "not hinted at" I should've said that it is hinted, but not really focused upon so much. I didn't want to make it her central defining characteristic...more like a part of her backstory that would influence her interactions with other people. So no, it doesn't exactly come out of nowhere! It's more like the reasoning for why she makes certain decisions, and how she would react to some situations. (which culminates into her revelation before their suicide mission)

Cases in point, two examples:

The first appears subtly in the beginning, when she integrates herself within a village for nearly one year. Some of the boys in the village had previously tried to court with her, but in each time, she had constantly rejected their advances. She did not exactly dislike them - she did think that most of them were sweet (yeah there were some...uh, weird/creepy ones) - but she was just not interested in them.

When questioned about this by another girl in the village, she isn't exactly sure how to respond to it (her thoughts would be reflected as speech here - "((Um... How should I answer this?))", or something to that effect). She eventually just tells the girl that none of the boys in the village really held her interest, and she later comments to herself that it's such a half truth. There was more to it than just that, but she was kind of afraid of even saying it out loud!

A second example happens when she talks to another (male) character about his own feelings toward a (female) character; both of them have been traveling together with her. He is an academic while his love interest is a noblewoman of some sort. He pretty much confesses that he does love that character, but he is afraid of the status differences between them. She responds with a don't worry about that! speech, but again she comments to herself that she is a hypocrite. She remembers her own mistake at that moment (maybe represented as a flashback or more mental words, but I didn't work on this extensively yet), and just goes silent.

There are more situations, but the main "difficulty" that I guess I face is that I might be writing this with the same thoughts as a heterosexual relationship. That is, you might be able to replace any of these situations with her and a former potential male love interest. I want to write her as how she is, with her homosexuality as a character trait that is eventually explained - I really dislike the Hollywood stereotypes of gays and lesbians, because the gamut of personalities between all homosexuals is just the same as with heterosexuals!

What I do try to concentrate on is that she is really trying her best to say some kind of statement, but at the same time she is holding herself back. She had not exactly revealed her secret even on Earth, so even on this new world she feels like she might be in danger of very bad consequences. (and it's probably justified too, since a lot of people on this world have ideals from between the 12th - 19th centuries, long before homosexuality was considered to be natural and accepted)

TLDR: I should've said that it was hinted at, but the hints aren't supposed to be "in-your-face-lesbian"; rather, there are clues for the audience to piece together. I want her to eventually accept who she is, and this takes form in a big coming-out before her and her friends' potential grisly deaths. In addition to writing about her potential relationship, I also want to write that she is hiding something else within her words. She is trying to tell something to her friends/my players, but she is held back by her own fears at the same time.