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Closeauthor=chanaauthor=JudeAccording to you.
And yet the only specific person you supplied was an actual insane person.
@Sailerius : ok, the best I've found is this, but it's in French(...) :
http://conscience-vraie.info/harcelement-en-reseau.htm
That's the best you could find? Look around the site. The author talks about the internet as a vessel for mind control and other government brainwashing conspiracy theories. I don't think that counts as credible.
Crystalgate
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author=chana
I don't really understand this, just google "gang stalking" and you'll find all the credible videos you want : ex-FBI agents, professors, victims, just any kind you want, I find.
All I found was a bunch of websites which told me the government is behind the gang stalking, but who offered no evidence whatsoever. Usually they tried to use other atrocities done by the government as an argument.
Hey, I completely believe that the government keeps tabs on people who may possibly revolt, incite anarchy or otherwise cause harm to the government or its citizens. That is, indeed, a lack of a specific freedom. Whether you're okay with that or not is up to you, but you'll find that many other country's governments out there will just shoot you as soon as they suspect you of any anarchism.
Me, I don't plan on revolting any time soon so it doesn't bother me.
Me, I don't plan on revolting any time soon so it doesn't bother me.
eplipswich
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author=chana
I don't really understand this, just google "gang stalking" and you'll find all the credible videos you want : ex-FBI agents, professors, victims, just any kind you want, I find.
chana, Google is never the best portal to find credible sources. Credible sources are found either through the library, or through academic website portals.
Google Scholar is kind of the closest to an example of an academic website portal, but that's not really a strong-enough website to find credible sources to me. It's still great, though, so for those who are interested, you can try searching in Google Scholar: scholar.google.com
EDIT: Interestingly, I found this article via Google Scholar that talks about gang stalking (and mind control) as a mental issue:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/clips/2008/11/13/SharingNYTIMES.pdf
Crystalgate
694
I searched for "gang stalking caught on tape" and got nothing but people filming normal activities that are supposed to be gang stalking tactics. Two people passing by in front of a gas station is suspicious, a man raising his cap is a signal to other people and cars being driven close to another person's car (on a road with a lot of traffic) is harassment. The gang stalking is also supposedly done by strangers and not neighbors, which makes the process ridiculously complicated and time consuming.
Now I don't only want evidence that the gang stalking is liked to the other crimes, I also want evidence that the gang stalking itself is a things that actually happens to a lot of individuals and is not just delusion.
Now I don't only want evidence that the gang stalking is liked to the other crimes, I also want evidence that the gang stalking itself is a things that actually happens to a lot of individuals and is not just delusion.
ok, I've found this, don't pay too much attention to the "detectives(?", they rather look like jokes but focus strictly on the victims, does any one of them look mad or even slightly unauthentic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18PtOXrzDVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18PtOXrzDVE
Threads like these just piss me off. I'm sorry for the people that actually believe these things. One of my friends recently became a conspiracy theorist and apparently he thought the world was going to end.
obsorber
50
Omg, I just want to say something. Ignore the conspiracy and only look at the presented facts. No need to listen to the theory, just the facts. It's what I love about the show Conspiracy Theory, they only elaborate on facts. They don't waste their time with the theory. Even Jesse Contacted Icke and most of his explanations are theory rather than facts which he was annoyed by. I believe Icke is on to something but a lot of it is nonsense.
It is a clear fact that cannot be ignored that when people do get close to truth or wake up to something sinister that they try to expose, what happens is that their are mysteriously or coincidentally killed. Ignore the conspiracy, see those facts and you know something doesn't add up. The word conspiracy seems to program people to automatically think fake, lie or bullshit without them looking at the facts.
Once you look into the facts you realize there are anomalies. I mean it's like a person noticing his property is constantly damaged which is a fact. Now he has no idea why or how it is being damaged but he searches for facts that could be the cause of it. For example the strange people that seem to be around his house late at night, the fact that cloaked hooded people walk by it 2am at night which he finds from CCTV to see how it's happening. Once he observes these strange occurrences he believes that they are behind it. Necessarily he may not have 100% clear proof as to how or why considering they now know he's on to them but he is more than sure that something doesn't add up.
What I want people to understand is that facts are things that cannot be disputed. If you ignore a fact you ignore things that happen without taking them into account. These things could be the cause of certain things or related but necessarily its difficult to prove without finding a relationship.
Some conspiracy theories have been proven true. Especially throughout history. In one of my previous posts I would say the ideology of the world being round would have been a conspiracy until proven a fact. Don't automatically assume something is incorrect because a label has been attached to it. For years people have been closed minded because of religion, they never opened their eyes to what is really going on and what they were really part of.
I guarantee members of doomsday cults thought they were part of something good till they started doing mass murders and wanted out. Then they woke up and snapped back to reality.
Please don't take everything I say into literal consideration, only see and take in the facts. I would have it no other way...
It is a clear fact that cannot be ignored that when people do get close to truth or wake up to something sinister that they try to expose, what happens is that their are mysteriously or coincidentally killed. Ignore the conspiracy, see those facts and you know something doesn't add up. The word conspiracy seems to program people to automatically think fake, lie or bullshit without them looking at the facts.
Once you look into the facts you realize there are anomalies. I mean it's like a person noticing his property is constantly damaged which is a fact. Now he has no idea why or how it is being damaged but he searches for facts that could be the cause of it. For example the strange people that seem to be around his house late at night, the fact that cloaked hooded people walk by it 2am at night which he finds from CCTV to see how it's happening. Once he observes these strange occurrences he believes that they are behind it. Necessarily he may not have 100% clear proof as to how or why considering they now know he's on to them but he is more than sure that something doesn't add up.
What I want people to understand is that facts are things that cannot be disputed. If you ignore a fact you ignore things that happen without taking them into account. These things could be the cause of certain things or related but necessarily its difficult to prove without finding a relationship.
Some conspiracy theories have been proven true. Especially throughout history. In one of my previous posts I would say the ideology of the world being round would have been a conspiracy until proven a fact. Don't automatically assume something is incorrect because a label has been attached to it. For years people have been closed minded because of religion, they never opened their eyes to what is really going on and what they were really part of.
I guarantee members of doomsday cults thought they were part of something good till they started doing mass murders and wanted out. Then they woke up and snapped back to reality.
Please don't take everything I say into literal consideration, only see and take in the facts. I would have it no other way...
@arcan : the difference here is that, if the presentator is trying to build up some theory (though I find his program very well done in the way he filmed the victims and showed some of every age, sex and class), on the other hand NONE of the wictims are trying to drag you in any kind of theory, actually most have no idea where this is coming from, and to say the least, theories are the least of their worries. They're trying and solely trying to survive by resisting the brainwashing and the torture, by uniting also, of course knowing who and what's behind gives you a better chance to fight it.
Crystalgate
694
author=obsorber
Omg, I just want to say something. Ignore the conspiracy and only look at the presented facts. No need to listen to the theory, just the facts.
When it comes to gang stalking, I have seen a total of zero facts that support the idea that the government is utilizing gang stalking for whatever it's supposed to accomplish. I have seen a lot of claims, but no facts. When I looked into it on my own, the video evidence I found consisted almost entirely of people doing everyday tasks.
It is a clear fact that cannot be ignored that when people do get close to truth or wake up to something sinister that they try to expose, what happens is that their are mysteriously or coincidentally killed.Like Dylan Avery?
Once you look into the facts you realize there are anomalies. I mean it's like a person noticing his property is constantly damaged which is a fact. Now he has no idea why or how it is being damaged but he searches for facts that could be the cause of it. For example the strange people that seem to be around his house late at night, the fact that cloaked hooded people walk by it 2am at night which he finds from CCTV to see how it's happening. Once he observes these strange occurrences he believes that they are behind it. Necessarily he may not have 100% clear proof as to how or why considering they now know he's on to them but he is more than sure that something doesn't add up.
Applying this to gang stalking, what the people seem to have noticed is that when they go to gas stations, other people are also there and when they are driving on a high trafficked road, there are other cars being driven in somewhat close proximity to theirs. Oh, yeah, there's also the fact that there's a lot of people who think they are victim to gang stalking. I don't see what that's going to prove though except that that there's a lot of people who think they are being stalked.
Some conspiracy theories have been proven true. Especially throughout history. In one of my previous posts I would say the ideology of the world being round would have been a conspiracy until proven a fact. Don't automatically assume something is incorrect because a label has been attached to it.
I'm not doing that. I assume that the systematic gang stalking is incorrect because I have been given nothing indicating it's existence that's even remotely convincing.
Please don't take everything I say into literal consideration, only see and take in the facts. I would have it no other way...
I think I have done exactly that, only taking in the facts. But again I have seen very little thereof.
obsorber
50
its a fact that there are millions of targets who are complaining abut this phenomenon all in the same manner.
obsorber
50
its a fact that there are millions of targets who are complaining abut this phenomenon all in the same manner.
obsorber
50
its a fact that there are millions of targets who are complaining abut this phenomenon all in the same manner.
Crystalgate
694
author=obsorber
its a fact that there are millions of targets who are complaining abut this phenomenon all in the same manner.
Can you give me the source?
Edit: Is it in the US or the whole world?
obsorber
50
This is in the US I'm talking about from episode of Conspiracy Theory. However you can only speculate worldwide for now...
If you're very patient, this is a history of mind control technologies (it's after 40-41), 30% of the population of the USA. Source seems serious enough :
http://targetedindividualseurope.wordpress.com/
http://targetedindividualseurope.wordpress.com/
Crystalgate
694
I'm not going to dig trough multiple 30+ minutes videos over one number. Heck, you shouldn't have given me a CT video as source, you should have given me the source that the CT video in question got that number from.
Note that whatever CT says doesn't by itself qualify as a fact.
Let's instead try following example. I tell you that my property is constantly damaged. Later I tell you that strange people seem to be around my house at night and that hooded people pass by it 2am at night. What are the facts in this example?
The only facts here is that I told you those things. Them actually occurring is not a fact. Just because I told you that happened it doesn't means you can be sure any of it is actually true. Replace me with CT and the same holds true.
Note that whatever CT says doesn't by itself qualify as a fact.
I mean it's like a person noticing his property is constantly damaged which is a fact. Now he has no idea why or how it is being damaged but he searches for facts that could be the cause of it. For example the strange people that seem to be around his house late at night, the fact that cloaked hooded people walk by it 2am at night which he finds from CCTV to see how it's happening. Once he observes these strange occurrences he believes that they are behind it.
Let's instead try following example. I tell you that my property is constantly damaged. Later I tell you that strange people seem to be around my house at night and that hooded people pass by it 2am at night. What are the facts in this example?
The only facts here is that I told you those things. Them actually occurring is not a fact. Just because I told you that happened it doesn't means you can be sure any of it is actually true. Replace me with CT and the same holds true.
The man is a scientist, I suppose he got it from his own works, also this has nothng to do whatsoever with CTs.
obsorber
50
It's funny how you ignored the CCTV recording as an example of recording people doing such things or strange occurrence in your environment as your facts. Its funny how you are programmed to see or take in the info you want.
