I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT LEGAL STUFF.

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I was always led to believe that it was illegal to up and sell RPG Maker Games made with any of the software made (VX Ace, VX, XP, etc.) whether or not it was acquired legally or illegally. But then a friend of mine showed me this.

For those lazy enough to not click the link, here is a quote:

rpgmakerweb.com

2. General Questions:

Can I sell my games created with RPG Maker XP/VX and its game materials included in (or added onto) the software?

Yes, you can distribute games you created with RPG Maker XP/VX or IG Maker, using its included (or added on) materials, as freeware or commercial ware. You are also allowed to modify the materials with other software such as Photoshop, provided they are only used within RPG Maker or IG Maker software, and not sold/or distributed. You can also include your own graphics and music if you wish. Please ensure that those games do not include any material which infringe others' rights.

Please note that any modification of the exe, dll, or other game files generated by RPG Maker or IG Maker is forbidden. Also, you may not use the materials included in the software (or add-on package) within other game engines or software.

I noticed it had a lot of technicalities and only mentioned VX and XP, with no call to VX Ace. So I was wondering, what's the verdict?
It's the same deal with VX Ace. They haven't updated it, I believe.
It is legal to sell a game made in XP, VX, Ace and IGM as long as:-
+ You legally purchased the engine the game is made on.
+ You have full permission to use the resources you used in a commercial venture.
+ You have full permission to use the scripts you used in a commercial venture.
+ You created the game and/or have the permission of the creators of the game to do so. All creators, not just one, in the case of a team game.
+ You comply with the EULA of the engine. That is, no hacking the engine - not that you need to with the amount of scripts out there.
+ You do not infringe on copyrighted or trademarked works (fangames, for example) without the creators' permission.

Resources can range from custom to RTP to commercial-use. For RTP files you may only use those that you have bought the engines for - ie, if you purchased XP but want to use Ace RTP resources you have to actually buy Ace to do so. The licence for those resources is included in the cost of the engine itself (which is why there's a pretty constant cost rate for the engines).

Also note that as you cannot get a legal copy of 2k3 and (I assume)95, this means that they cannot be used and games created in them cannot be sold. So, there's that. You can by RM2000 in Japanese but any edits to the engine that translate it to English is illegal and thus makes your ability to sell illegal as well. Also, it's pretty hard to buy if you aren't Japanese - almost impossibly so.

As to the rules in the OP, that's RMW's purview, so we can't do anything about it. Try PMing one of their mods perhaps?
author=Liberty
It is legal to sell a game made in XP, VX, Ace and IGM as long as:-
+ You legally purchased the engine the game is made on.
+ You have full permission to use the resources you used in a commercial venture.
+ You have full permission to use the scripts you used in a commercial venture.
+ You created the game and/or have the permission of the creators of the game to do so. All creators, not just one, in the case of a team game.
+ You comply with the EULA of the engine. That is, no hacking the engine - not that you need to with the amount of scripts out there.
+ You do not infringe on copyrighted or trademarked works (fangames, for example) without the creators' permission.

Resources can range from custom to RTP to commercial-use. For RTP files you may only use those that you have bought the engines for - ie, if you purchased XP but want to use Ace RTP resources you have to actually buy Ace to do so. The licence for those resources is included in the cost of the engine itself (which is why there's a pretty constant cost rate for the engines).

Also note that as you cannot get a legal copy of 2k3 and (I assume)95, this means that they cannot be used and games created in them cannot be sold. So, there's that. You can by RM2000 in Japanese but any edits to the engine that translate it to English is illegal and thus makes your ability to sell illegal as well.

It's rmw's site, though, so we can't do anything about it. Try PMing one of their mods perhaps?


That is actually the clarification I was looking for in terms of technicalities and such. Thank you! You have been a great help.
A lot of people have had success in commercially selling their games made in RPG Maker! The Aveyond and Laxius Force games are two good examples of this.

I would also like to say that people have sold games made illegally with software going all the way back to RPG Maker 2000. I haven't ever heard of legal action being taken against any of these games. I'm not trying to say it's okay to do this kind of thing though, let's be ethical here. :D
I've never heard of sold RM games from 2k/3 and I've been in the community since 98. Do you recall the names of any of the games?
Some people would sell their games on CDs before it became easier to sell your stuff on the internet. I don't think there were any well-known games that did it, especially not in the communities!
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author=Gardenia
Some people would sell their games on CDs before it became easier to sell your stuff on the internet. I don't think there were any well-known games that did it, especially not in the communities!


There was one game circulating out here in Newfoundland called Elduria. I believe a friend of a friend made it? Anyways, it was the first 2k3 game I ever played, almost 4 or 5 years before I knew about the engine.
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