MESSED UP HIRING POLICY

So just a few days ago I sent in two resumes to the same company and I even filled out their questionnaires exactly the same. Save for two things, one resume was Richard Julius Torruellas, while the other was Richard Allen Torruellas. Of course the final difference was one said yes to a form that asked if the applicant suffered from any disabilities all the while before and after explaining that it would not impact hiring policies or be taken into account. The resume that said yes was sent an email stating that the applicant did not meet basic qualifications as stated on the requisition form, while the other that said no to being disabled got a call asking for an interview. Not only am I not standing them up I'm going in and telling them the truth, with a camera in their face. I also plan on telling them the footage is going on YouTube and being sent to the media. This is clearly discrimination as had they read the resumes they would not have stated "Oh you don't meet qualifications.". How does the SAME RESUME meet the specs but the other doesn't? What clearly happened is they read the answers to their own questionnaire first and based on that which is NOT stated as having requirements and in fact is constantly saying "There is no right answer for any of these questions and they have no impact on hiring policy."

Yeah I plan on slamming these people because that's fucked up. What if my disability was having my leg shot off in a war? What if it was a disability that does not impact actual Customer Service Representation despite showing 3 years of solid service in the field on the resume?

So what are your thoughts guys? Did I catch them banging the toaster with their pants down? 5 associates of mine are doing the same experiment and looking at an IM I just got on skype the SAME thing happened for two of them. Only this time they only had an initial for a middle name and changed that alone from D. to L.

Assurant. You can only apply online at Assurant.com. It's interesting how they keep changing the page too. I think these idiots realized that they were doing something stupid because others might have complained or threatened to sue. Too little too late. We have videos and pictures of the time where it did not state the questionnaire was part of the basic qualifications.

Though I will admit at least this place is willing to own up to it's mistakes. Or so it seems.

EDIT: Never you mind. They still do the part about disabilities. Wow. I think that's the part that matters most to be honest.

They actually received so much shit that they changed the site considerably since we looked at it. It now states "Mental disability" because those are specifically the types that would impact the job and it even gives a list. Looks like they cleaned everything up to be a bit more kosher with the law. At least they own up to their mistakes and fix it.

Either way the constant threat of lawsuits made them give in. At least I assume this is what they got called for 90% of the time with such blatantly messed up written policy where everyone applying could see it.

That being said though has anyone else here seen some really messed up discrimination in the workplace? I've never really encountered it before but people say it's everywhere. Maybe it's a perk of working jobs where people have to move heavy objects all day.

author=LockeZ
Given a choice between someone with an unknown disability and someone who is known to not have a disability but otherwise be identical in every way, yes, it makes sense to hire the second one. If they knew that the disability was something that wouldn't affect your work then that would be one thing, but they didn't know that, because you didn't tell them. And they had another at-least-equally qualified applicant (a fact which you ensured yourself!). So there was no reason to interview the risky applicant.

Also, it is definitely legal in every state to not hire people for jobs that they are incapable of doing well enough to meet company standards, regardless of whether the reason they're incapable is due to a disability or not.

You told them in the first application that you might not be qualified for the job. If they didn't have someone else applying who was definitely qualified and otherwise completely identical, maybe they would have accepted your application.

That only makes sense when the slew of other factors does not contribute. For instance I talked about having all manner of pictures. One is them emailed the "disabled" party for an interview but before it asking specifically "Are you disabled" and not explaining at all what that means or meant other than "It won't impact hiring policy". It was not until after that the second resume was sent due to a mess up since I found out that the job in particular does not care about a knee in recovery. However they shot themselves in the foot quite a bit and their behavior afterwards is quite telling that they realized how screwed up it appeared.

author=LockeZ
Oh, so you didn't send the two resumes simultaneously purely for the purpose of trapping them? Because that was what you made it sound like - as though your hobby is sending pairs of almost-identical fake resumes to companies and trying to entrap them with apparent displays of unfairness. Which was an idea that kind of bothered me.

If the two resumes weren't submitted at the same time though then that adds other variables to the equation. At a guess, they simply found someone else for the original job opening, and stopped all other interviews once they found one qualified person. When you applied again later without mentioning the disability, you were applying for a different job opening, and competing against a different set of other applicants.

Also, your English is terrible so it's difficult to tell what you're saying, but you seem to be contradicting yourself. Now you're saying that the first application was accepted?

Nah that idea bothers me too. I don't try to trap people but I do notice when things are a little off kilter. To be clear in my first one I said yes but then I realized the name was wrong and in redoing the whole process I said no the second time. But the entire process was done by the time I sent the second resume and they even called me twice. They were interested in an interview and called to have me fill out the second part of their questionnaire. That was when I said yes but I decided to name it differently after being sent an email saying I did not meet their qualifications. The only thing that happened between the time I got those calls was filling out the second part which simply asked a few background questions like phone number, address, and age. After answering those I came to the question "are you disabled" and said yes. Then before I got the email I decided I wanted to change that answer since having a shitty knee wouldn't really count against it. However in the process of resubmitting a resume and reapplying my phone beeped and I checked it out seeing a new email from Assurant. That was the email that stated I did not meet qualifications. So I decided to try again anyways since I more then met what they asked. The second time though I said no to "Are you disabled" since again I just have a shot knee. This time I went through all the same steps only this time they set a date for an interview. Keep in mind I changed my middle name the second time. After this though I got a little suspicious since I told a friend about them and he said they wouldn't hire him. So I went over it with him as well and we discovered that when he did the same process that upon saying no to that same question of disability he suddenly was slammed with calls wanting him to come in for an interview. At this point I was beyond suspicious because the reason he said yes was due to his back. That is a massive red flag for any physical job. But this is customer service. So I called Omen and a few other people and asked if they could do the experiment the same way we did. But here is a kicker Stu did it only find that even with the same exact name that he was called when he said no after being turned away the first time. Others I know have tried this and it's funny because all of them are having the same issue. Of course the problem was how things were worded and while the HR department thought the process was asking about mental disabilities that would hinder the job it was not. It just asked "Are you disabled" and that's what caused a large uproar. To be honest I did not expect a picket of the building but yes there were people protesting outside. I wasn't the only one to take notice.

No Darklord. They merely helped me test whether or not it was kosher and did not need the job. Like I said though whoever designed the first website is an idiot. It gave limited information and expected you to somehow read minds. They should have stated which type of disabilities they were asking about in the first place. Otherwise someone who was shot in a war would be disabled technically if he never was able to regain use of his limb properly. One person was looking for a job but he got hired elsewhere, ironically by a competitor.

On another note I recall a guy downtown who literally called me a guido all the time and I wondered what his problem was. I went in and asked if I could get a sandwich and he literally said "I don't serve Italians here.". I don't even look all that Italian! I mean I might, I don't know. But still he literally refuses to serve Italians for some reason and I don't know why because he looks like a Roman.

EDIT: By the way I'm Spanish/Welsh/German/Atlantean? Atlantic Islander? How the hell do you say you are from atlantic islands? Puerto Rican to be exact but possibly some other native tribes as my bloodline apparently had no problems with breeding. I've even got family in China, granted they are distant relatives. My family is huge and I'm certain there is probably Italian blood somewhere in my current living bloodline, but I swear this dude with a legionnaire outfit would look far more Italian than myself. Anyways I mention this guy because he also pulled a gun out and yelled at a girl to leave before he shot her. When the cops responded he said a filthy Italian tried to infiltrate his business. Pretty sick in the head. It was in a local paper about 4 or 5 years ago. To this day though his applications ask "Are you Italian?" on them.