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ANOTHER FINAL FANTASY FAN-GAME?
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riderx40
1708
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CloseSo I'm making a Final Fantasy game on Rpgmaker2k3 inspired directly from The original Famicom FF1 and FF3.
(why famicom because it will be hard as tits).
Anyway,I wanted to start a story (Since i already made all the spells and 75% of the classes) I could made one quickly
(Improvise the whole thing but it will end up like shit).
But i need a good start point.Like It is good to do the same formula?,Small Group Vs Huge-Ass empire...
Or something else like,The Story of another 4 warriors who overshadowed by the The Light warriors and didn't have the chance to be heroes.
Or..A bunch of kids fall into the pit and discover a crystal..wait it already been done.!?
So Guys what should be the decently good Final Fantasy Plot.?
(why famicom because it will be hard as tits).
Anyway,I wanted to start a story (Since i already made all the spells and 75% of the classes) I could made one quickly
(Improvise the whole thing but it will end up like shit).
But i need a good start point.Like It is good to do the same formula?,Small Group Vs Huge-Ass empire...
Or something else like,The Story of another 4 warriors who overshadowed by the The Light warriors and didn't have the chance to be heroes.
Or..A bunch of kids fall into the pit and discover a crystal..wait it already been done.!?
So Guys what should be the decently good Final Fantasy Plot.?
Final Fantasy follows a few tenents:
-Magic trumps technology. This is seen in every game except FF2/5 where the reverse is true for some reason. (8 might fall into this as well but I haven't played it)
-Destiny is something to fight against. Every FF has the player characters trying to change their fate, usually be undergoing some sort of ordeal (or Mount Ordeals, if you will)
-The little people are important. If you don't care about the masses, you're a bad guy. If you do, you're in the party or a major NPC.
-Breaking the RPG mold in contentious ways has been happening since FF1.
A lot of this ties into Japanese culture and their reaction to the government in the 80s/90s but regardless of how deep you get into it, if you follow those guidelines you should be able to create an FF Story(tm).
-Magic trumps technology. This is seen in every game except FF2/5 where the reverse is true for some reason. (8 might fall into this as well but I haven't played it)
-Destiny is something to fight against. Every FF has the player characters trying to change their fate, usually be undergoing some sort of ordeal (or Mount Ordeals, if you will)
-The little people are important. If you don't care about the masses, you're a bad guy. If you do, you're in the party or a major NPC.
-Breaking the RPG mold in contentious ways has been happening since FF1.
A lot of this ties into Japanese culture and their reaction to the government in the 80s/90s but regardless of how deep you get into it, if you follow those guidelines you should be able to create an FF Story(tm).
LightningLord2
230
Final Fantasy also tries to come up with a unique system about how you're able to improve your characters aside from just leveling up (which often is a very minor aspect in itself in later titles).
RPG Maker 2003 uses an ATB System by default - so it would be easier to style it after FF4-6 (which use a similar graphic style and the early ATB system - in fact, several parts of the RTP are sprite rips from those games and a few other SNES RPGs)
RPG Maker 2003 uses an ATB System by default - so it would be easier to style it after FF4-6 (which use a similar graphic style and the early ATB system - in fact, several parts of the RTP are sprite rips from those games and a few other SNES RPGs)
riderx40
1708
Thanks guys,It really helped..so i wrote this "Story" last night and i want you
to make sugections:
(There alot of typos and grammar errors,so bare with me,I mean Bear!)
The Earth was ruled by 4 Mighty Kingdoms,Bilomenia,Perneria,Guardia,Rollyia.
and the four made an empire called Aqaria.
Bilomenia:Ruled "Thrasius Huggard" eastern part,And ("--Nero Sardus--") ruled the western part.
This Kingdom is most known for her Technological advanced systems and tools.
since all the Machines powered by photon energy discovered by one and only Cid.
Even if this city is advanced the Military system is still weak.Because Cid
Ignored all orders to built Advanced weapons for the kingdom.and was banished
to the near by islands.
Perneria:"Arctos Forder" Ruled the Western part, an "Caligula Kouretas" ruled the eastern part
This Kingdom is the place of imperial Church that ran by the high-priest Malvus.
The High-Priest ordered all to worship the King Caligula as he
Claimed to be A Divine figure of somesort.
Guardia: "Nemesio Beaton" Northern part,and "Maximus Beaton" ruled the southern part.
A The both king which brothers are fomer generals.So they both know Military and
War strategies.
The Two Kings Lead to Great victories making them feared by the enemy forces.
Rollyia: "Shamylan Akloof" The Whole Kingdom.
A Big Deserted contain with few water sources but with a great amount Power resources like the
Photon energy and Rare Metals.The King made a Contract with Bilomenia to Give supplies
to the kingdom in exchange of the resources.But some cities of Rollyia didn't agreee
to this and they started a rebel group called "Defenders" which was lead by Azman.
This is the stat of the empire until one day.
Nero Beaton declared war against Thrasius and demanded that he will surrander the eastern part
of Bilomenia.Thrasius refused to that request and after a fierce war that end up Thrasius
being killed,Nero Toke Bilomenia as his New Kingdom.Nero used the technology in bilomenia
To make powerful weapons and machines.
Nero also claimed to Be A returned God,That angered Caligula which made his
followers confused,do they worship Nero or Caligula?,And so a War begins to determine who
is the strongest god.With Nero's victory and also the death of Caligula,With Arctos dissapearing
mysteriously,Now Nero have the control on both Bilomenia and Perneria with the help
of the high priest Malvus Nero declared himself a God and ordered people to follow
his New Religion "Neroism" and anyone who doesn't follow will be killed by the hand
of The Nero's imperial soldiers.At the meantime,The Twin brothers King Nemesio and King Maximus
declared thier seperation from the Aqaria empire,Nero didn't accept thier decsion fualing
war between them,But Nero didn't try to conquer Guardia but he's main target was
always Rollyia since he wanted to know where does this Photon energy comes from.
he didn't take the risk of letting his main source of power fade away so he settled on
his throne.and tried to figure out a way to break the contract between them without any loses.
Shamylan Akloof the ruler of Rollyia also declared the kingdom seperation from
Aqaia and with that,Nero finally found a reason to attack Rollyia,But something
happend Rollyia flew into the skies making Nero angry and outraged...
In the mean-time,King Arctos finally reached the kingdom of Guardia with
the help of cid.then,The three toke a airship to visit Shamylan to try
to stop the forces of Nero from invading the whole world.when they reach
the castle,Shamylan greeted the three kingsand accepted to making an alliance with them.
And so,Nemesio,Maximus,Arctos,Shamylan,and Cid must combine thier forces
to fight off the army of Nero.
When the two kingdoms Guardia,Rollyia...made a full impact on Nero's empire
with both armies clashing,the war ends with the four kings winning the battle Nero was
defensless and the four kings confronted him in a battle in the end
Nero didn't accept his defeat so Nero stabed himself with his own sword
and activated a secret Photonic Bomb under his castle,If the Bomb exploded it will erase
The whole Empire but suddenlly when the bomb exploded it didn't
burst out,But instead it Burst in making a strange flash...with that
the party was sent to the future 200 years.To a Land where The High priest Malvus
is still alive and he rules over the empire.
Now the Four kings must journey to save the world from the bad influance
the Church has become.and stop this madness once and for all.!?
to make sugections:
(There alot of typos and grammar errors,so bare with me,I mean Bear!)
The Earth was ruled by 4 Mighty Kingdoms,Bilomenia,Perneria,Guardia,Rollyia.
and the four made an empire called Aqaria.
Bilomenia:Ruled "Thrasius Huggard" eastern part,And ("--Nero Sardus--") ruled the western part.
This Kingdom is most known for her Technological advanced systems and tools.
since all the Machines powered by photon energy discovered by one and only Cid.
Even if this city is advanced the Military system is still weak.Because Cid
Ignored all orders to built Advanced weapons for the kingdom.and was banished
to the near by islands.
Perneria:"Arctos Forder" Ruled the Western part, an "Caligula Kouretas" ruled the eastern part
This Kingdom is the place of imperial Church that ran by the high-priest Malvus.
The High-Priest ordered all to worship the King Caligula as he
Claimed to be A Divine figure of somesort.
Guardia: "Nemesio Beaton" Northern part,and "Maximus Beaton" ruled the southern part.
A The both king which brothers are fomer generals.So they both know Military and
War strategies.
The Two Kings Lead to Great victories making them feared by the enemy forces.
Rollyia: "Shamylan Akloof" The Whole Kingdom.
A Big Deserted contain with few water sources but with a great amount Power resources like the
Photon energy and Rare Metals.The King made a Contract with Bilomenia to Give supplies
to the kingdom in exchange of the resources.But some cities of Rollyia didn't agreee
to this and they started a rebel group called "Defenders" which was lead by Azman.
This is the stat of the empire until one day.
Nero Beaton declared war against Thrasius and demanded that he will surrander the eastern part
of Bilomenia.Thrasius refused to that request and after a fierce war that end up Thrasius
being killed,Nero Toke Bilomenia as his New Kingdom.Nero used the technology in bilomenia
To make powerful weapons and machines.
Nero also claimed to Be A returned God,That angered Caligula which made his
followers confused,do they worship Nero or Caligula?,And so a War begins to determine who
is the strongest god.With Nero's victory and also the death of Caligula,With Arctos dissapearing
mysteriously,Now Nero have the control on both Bilomenia and Perneria with the help
of the high priest Malvus Nero declared himself a God and ordered people to follow
his New Religion "Neroism" and anyone who doesn't follow will be killed by the hand
of The Nero's imperial soldiers.At the meantime,The Twin brothers King Nemesio and King Maximus
declared thier seperation from the Aqaria empire,Nero didn't accept thier decsion fualing
war between them,But Nero didn't try to conquer Guardia but he's main target was
always Rollyia since he wanted to know where does this Photon energy comes from.
he didn't take the risk of letting his main source of power fade away so he settled on
his throne.and tried to figure out a way to break the contract between them without any loses.
Shamylan Akloof the ruler of Rollyia also declared the kingdom seperation from
Aqaia and with that,Nero finally found a reason to attack Rollyia,But something
happend Rollyia flew into the skies making Nero angry and outraged...
In the mean-time,King Arctos finally reached the kingdom of Guardia with
the help of cid.then,The three toke a airship to visit Shamylan to try
to stop the forces of Nero from invading the whole world.when they reach
the castle,Shamylan greeted the three kingsand accepted to making an alliance with them.
And so,Nemesio,Maximus,Arctos,Shamylan,and Cid must combine thier forces
to fight off the army of Nero.
When the two kingdoms Guardia,Rollyia...made a full impact on Nero's empire
with both armies clashing,the war ends with the four kings winning the battle Nero was
defensless and the four kings confronted him in a battle in the end
Nero didn't accept his defeat so Nero stabed himself with his own sword
and activated a secret Photonic Bomb under his castle,If the Bomb exploded it will erase
The whole Empire but suddenlly when the bomb exploded it didn't
burst out,But instead it Burst in making a strange flash...with that
the party was sent to the future 200 years.To a Land where The High priest Malvus
is still alive and he rules over the empire.
Now the Four kings must journey to save the world from the bad influance
the Church has become.and stop this madness once and for all.!?
LightningLord2
230
Can you tell me about the things you have planned/made for gameplay? I'm much better at evaluating that. Dull gameplay is what distanced me from Final Fantasy most of the time (even though I really enjoy the plot of 5 and 7).
riderx40
1708
The FF3 Class sytem will be there (I was planning for only 21 but i might add some extra ones)
The whole journey will be in a Big World that you must explore (for some reason i'm still trying to figure out why..:p)
And I might do different worlds like in final fantasy legend II (or traveling id diffrent time periods..but i think that out of my plans).Of course the battle system will use ATB,And i also figure out a way to make a Jump command,
like the Dragoons uses but I think it will work better if there's only one user who can perform it.(4 guys using "Jump" will be difficult but i could try..).
Oh i forgot,Um..The Gameplay will be just exploration and doing some side-quests
(Like collecting Summons,Fighting secret bosses,ect..).
I f you have diffrent suggestions i'll be glad to do them too...
The whole journey will be in a Big World that you must explore (for some reason i'm still trying to figure out why..:p)
And I might do different worlds like in final fantasy legend II (or traveling id diffrent time periods..but i think that out of my plans).Of course the battle system will use ATB,And i also figure out a way to make a Jump command,
like the Dragoons uses but I think it will work better if there's only one user who can perform it.(4 guys using "Jump" will be difficult but i could try..).
Oh i forgot,Um..The Gameplay will be just exploration and doing some side-quests
(Like collecting Summons,Fighting secret bosses,ect..).
I f you have diffrent suggestions i'll be glad to do them too...
riderx40
1708
So I made a Jump command like the one that dragoons (Like Kain from FF 4..) uses it was easy at first but it was very hard to
make it for 4 Heroes (Because i made Dragoon as a class)...Let me explain the trick works with a condition called "Jump" which it can evade all
attacks and have No Action allowed.Also i made three Animations,One for the Chara when it Jumps off the screen
and one for the chara when it Jumps on the Monster and one for the Chara when it return to it previous posetion.
In The Battle Trigger i made this:
I made 1 variable for each hero that will store the number of the targeted monster,and a switch to make
the battle trigger know which hero is using the the Jump..
and in the second battle trigger i made this:
Also in here i made a conditional branch of each switch.Inside,I put a branch for the pre-stored
number of the variable that i mentioned latley to determine which monsters is bieng Jump on...The Condition "Jump"
will be removed after the Conditional Branch of A switch will end.
Okey let get to the main problem,When all The heroes jump it activates the Death event.Like when all
of your party memebers are paralized,It GAME OVER Man....
Yeah that what happend to me..
-Is there any solution to this?
-Or another way to make this work?
make it for 4 Heroes (Because i made Dragoon as a class)...Let me explain the trick works with a condition called "Jump" which it can evade all
attacks and have No Action allowed.Also i made three Animations,One for the Chara when it Jumps off the screen
and one for the chara when it Jumps on the Monster and one for the Chara when it return to it previous posetion.
In The Battle Trigger i made this:
I made 1 variable for each hero that will store the number of the targeted monster,and a switch to make
the battle trigger know which hero is using the the Jump..
and in the second battle trigger i made this:
Also in here i made a conditional branch of each switch.Inside,I put a branch for the pre-stored
number of the variable that i mentioned latley to determine which monsters is bieng Jump on...The Condition "Jump"
will be removed after the Conditional Branch of A switch will end.
Okey let get to the main problem,When all The heroes jump it activates the Death event.Like when all
of your party memebers are paralized,It GAME OVER Man....
Yeah that what happend to me..
-Is there any solution to this?
-Or another way to make this work?
LightningLord2
230
RPG Maker 2003 makes you get a game over the instant everyone is inflicted with a state that bars all actions. I don't know if you can code this, but you should try to make the jump connect after a set amount of time and freeze the ATB bar while the skill is active. Or simply force a jump action as soon as the actor jumping gets his turn.
LightningLord2
230
So you have a class change ala FF1 that your class upgrades to a stronger one mid-game? Otherwise, I couldn't justify having stronger versions of existing classes.
Also, another game that says play it or lose it in the healer class.
Also, another game that says play it or lose it in the healer class.
riderx40
1708
Actually it more like FF3 class system but i tried to balance them so that the player switch between them constently.The Ninja is no longer over powered,scholar is now a toolist,Bard is the only one who can regen your MP slowly by singing and he uses guitar.(because why not)
LightningLord2
230
author=riderx40
Actually it more like FF3 class system but i tried to balance them so that the player switch between them constently.The Ninja is no longer over powered,scholar is now a toolist,Barf is the only one who can regen your MP slowly by singing and he uses guitar.(because why not)
Then why do you have classes like the Knight and Magus, who are described as "Like class X, but better"?
riderx40
1708
So i was thinking of a R/L hand system for the game.And an Almost brilliant idea came to me,What if instead making a sword that increases your attack make a sword that only increases defense and call it a "Shield"..BOOM..*Pincel drop*.
But srsly,It will still be regonized as a weapon since the hero will still swing
his hands (which looks Dumb),But i could fix that by making the animation of the Shield as a single frame of a standing hero.But still,The "Miss" will appear that and the Shields will only increase Defence and nothing else..(which will be Odd for players).
-So is it a Good idea or a bad one?
But srsly,It will still be regonized as a weapon since the hero will still swing
his hands (which looks Dumb),But i could fix that by making the animation of the Shield as a single frame of a standing hero.But still,The "Miss" will appear that and the Shields will only increase Defence and nothing else..(which will be Odd for players).
-So is it a Good idea or a bad one?
LightningLord2
230
author=riderx40
So i was thinking of a R/L hand system for the game.And an Almost brilliant idea came to me,What if instead making a sword that increases your attack make a sword that only increases defense and call it a "Shield"..BOOM..*Pincel drop*.
But srsly,It will still be regonized as a weapon since the hero will still swing
his hands (which looks Dumb),But i could fix that by making the animation of the Shield as a single frame of a standing hero.But still,The "Miss" will appear that and the Shields will only increase Defence and nothing else..(which will be Odd for players).
-So is it a Good idea or a bad one?
It seems very elegant, but RPG Maker will refer to both slots as a "weapon". But I do endorse dual-wielding shields.
riderx40
1708
So hey again...I think i just realized that making a game like this alone could be a pain in the butt-cheeks.
So if anyone is interested in collaborating with me.
That'll be really great.
So if anyone is interested in collaborating with me.
That'll be really great.
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