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NoblemanNick
I'm bringing this world back for you and for me.
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Ok, this might be a weird question to ask over a topic but it crossed my mind. Sometimes your real friends backstabb you and you wonder that the people you chat and have fun with online do you consider them real friends in their own sense. Even if you haven't seen them or maybe have never heard the voice and ahve only seen the text they speak. A friendship can come out of that. While I'm not disputing the poll of friends vs online friends. I feel that I have befriend in some way alot of you. I was wondering if you feel the same about other members on this board. Also would you consider some of the people on here good friends? I can name a few people who I have befriened and who have topped my "Online Best Friend List" which is basically a list of people who i consider really good friends on an online level though. If you where to leave RMN and never come back today do you think you remember my face? Or anyone elses?
Happy
Devil's in the details
5367
I don't know members of RMN so well yet, but past the 4-5 years or what it has been, that I've been around RM forums, I've made few pretty good friends, that basically live at other side of the world.

And if I would ever visit those places, I could probably spend several days with them with no problems, or if they would ever visit me, I'd offer my hospitality gladly.

Online it's kind of easy to get to know peoples' opinions and views on different matters, but you won't still learn their habits or ways expressing themselves in real life, which can be very different to online behaviour. For example, some really friendly and social person online could be someone really withdrawn and hard to approach in real life. But it does help that you've already "get to know" the person online. It breaks the ice a bit.

Hmm I dunno, but I've met a lot of people I've played MMORPGs with, in big meetings irl and got along with them well. They're only casual friends to me though, but if I'd bother to see some effort, I could easily make really good friends of them. So, I don't really see any problems having friends online only, because when I've met those people irl, we've been friends then, too.
Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
15170
Well, you have to realize that in its early stages, RMN was basically #rm2k's second offical website, whether that was holb's intention or not. For the uninformed, #rm2k was/is (hah) an IRC channel that had/has (huh) a handful of elitist prickscool dudes that... well, I don't want to upset anybody!

Anyway, due to this a lot of members here are already well-acquainted with one another.

As for MYSELF, I enjoy chatting with WIP and Brick and FD and so on via AIM, but I really talk mostly to harmonic and especially Karsuman. trance2 and I talk when we can as well, but our schedules don't mesh up I guess so our conversations tend to come in bursts.

In the REAL WORLD I tend to make references to those people (WIP, Brick, FD, harm, Karsu, trance), as well as to maladroit him because of his nosehow wonderful and charming he is.

Whenever I see a squirrel I think of Sei despite not talking to him in forever.
Starscream
Conquest is made from the ashes of one's enemies.
6110
author=Craze link=topic=2128.msg35415#msg35415 date=1222915250
Well, you have to realize that in its early stages, RMN was basically #rm2k's second offical website, whether that was holb's intention or not.

For the record, pretty much everything RMN related has been WIP's doings, for better or for worse. When I ran things, we were called RPGmaker.net and we didn't actually exist.

Back to the topic...

My first real-life encounter with an online person was when I first moved to New Jersey from Iowa. I actually lived in ankylo's hometown for almost a year. During that time we met on several occassions, including eating chinese, wandering around Wal-Mart and acquiring various real life goods, including a Christmas ham (for free) and a Intel processor (for cash). I've known him for about 10 years, so it was good to meet him. Good times.

The next person I met was WIP, who stayed with me in New Jersey for about a week. It was a pretty awkward time; I had only admitted to my wife that I was nerdy enough to have online friends the week before when asking for permission for him to stay. It just so happens my brother (mine) and my sister-in-law (my wife's sister) were visiting also. WIP and I destroyed my brother emotionally and intellectually on the way home, mocking him for pronouncing Suikoden IV "Suikoden Eye Vee". He later threatened to kill WIP. My sister-in-law refused to go inside for about an hour when WIP arrived, fearing he was a "knife-killer". WIP would also later visit me when I lived in New Orleans, in which time the mormon landed in time to seee a gay pride parade in downtown N'awlins.

Gadreel (who hasn't come around lately) stayed at my house during his recent move from Seattle to Boston. We talked randomly for a few hours and made some really bad puns.

When WIP stayed with me in New Jersey, we drove to Boston to attend the first #rm2kfest, where we met some "icons" such as Lysander86, RPG-Advocate and Brickroad.

I consider ankylo and WIP very good friends, by any definition of the word. In fact, since I have moved around so much that they may actually be my best friends. Gadreel would also be up there if he was around more.

I don't know the majority of RMN members very well, and thus they are lumped into my acquaintance pile.

ankylo, WIP and I become sworn brothers in a ceremony in a peach garden. Together, we will protect China from infidels.
I don't have any friends on this site I think. :(
That's not to say I wouldn't remember some of ya'll. karsuman, kentona, and YummyDrumsticks being the main 3, for their distinct personalities.
I have the distinct feeling the reverse isn't true tho =/
YDS
member of the bull moose party
2516
I am not as close to people on the RM community (it doesn't mean I don't love you guys!) as a website I use to frequent for over five years (12 years old - 18 years old). This may sound strange, but that is where I was exposed to a lot of weird things that I never knew before, and without it, I doubt I would be the same. I don't think there is anything "nerdy" or "wrong" about it as most people I know ... in IRL ... would think.

In terms of acting differently on the internet compared to real life ... I can't even begin to say how true that could be. In fact, I completely lied about my identity for about five years and acted completely different from the way I do normally.

I guess there are a lot of reasons for it, I tend to write formally, so even when I am chatting or posting, that habit continues on, so it makes me seem pretty stern. This is more of a confession on my part, but online I act much, much more aggressive than I would offline, in fact, if something made me "pissed off" I would just hand my head low and mutter to myself because I would feel guilty about yelling someone else. Sometimes, on the internet, it is way too easy to get away with things. So if someone pisses me off, it doesn't take that much effort to type something derogatory. You don't have to deal with the after effects of saying such (unless the person you offended was an admin/staff! :)). Idk, maybe offline I am too nice sometimes and I feel bad pretty easily.

Anyways, back to the topic, I've grown so close to some of those people I've met on that one site I use to go to. In fact, on that site during its heydays, people grew really close to each other. So close, some moved in and married each other (no, this is not OKCupid, it was a gaming site). As for me, some of my best friends - the few people I can feel that I can tell anything to - are from that site. Ironically, it came from the fact that the internet was so anonymous, I felt that I could express and say anything and get away with it. I suppose sometimes online friendships are a bit of a double-edge sword, you might grow close to them because you probably spilled yer guts on to them, or you don't care because they are just "some other faceless person." I don't know; I am probably not making any sense.

Bottom line is, MOST of my close friends are from the internet. I am still not really that close to people on RMN because I am a pretty slow person to warm up with people, but I'd probably say my best friend in the community is probably Azn! Happy birthday, bro!
I frequent another forum quite a bit (non-rpgmaker) and some people there I would let stay at my place if they wanted, and they've offered their couch for me in their places as well.

At an old rpg maker site called RMD I had a few people that I would call "close internet friends" and despite one even living about 30 minutes away, I had no intention of ever meeting him.
WIP is one of my best friends (for real we even text message each other's phones) even though we've never met! I also plan on making sweet love to Craze someday. I met a girl on the internet once and we saw each other for four years. So I don't think it is weird to make good friends over the internet!
author=Craze link=topic=2128.msg35415#msg35415 date=1222915250
Well, you have to realize that in its early stages, RMN was basically #rm2k's second offical website, whether that was holb's intention or not. For the uninformed, #rm2k was/is (hah) an IRC channel that had/has (huh) a handful of elitist prickscool dudes that... well, I don't want to upset anybody!

This could not be farther from the truth. 8)

For starters, #rm2k never had an "official" website, really. There was something on I think Hellfusion that told what the chatroom was about, rules, and funny quotes, but that was about it. The now-RMNet crew used to go to excruciatingly great lengths to really belittle and inferiorize #rm2k, for reasons that still elude to me to this day. :P But that was years ago, and I've since forgotten most of the incidents.

Also, I've known Brickroad for eight and a half years. He's a really good buddy of mine, whom I had met on the internet.

...we could really use another 'fest.
I hate each and every one of you.







(kidding! Well, except brandon, as he is my archnemesis. I'll get you next time Him! NEXT TIME! *shakes fist*)

I consider some people on RMN, GW, and other forums friends - though it would be kinda weird to meet them in real life.

There was only one person I really contacted outside of the forum world - DoubleD_Kool. Anyone remember him? Yeah, he left the internets a couple of years ago, but he and I got along pretty well. We sent emails and whatnot back and forth.

EDIT:

Oh, and how I act on forums is COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY like how I act in real life. I'm as smarmy and sarcastic in real life as I am here!
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
9159
Th ;De next person I met was WIP, who stayed with me in New Jersey for about a week. It was a pretty awkward time; I had only admitted to my wife that I was nerdy enough to have online friends the week before when asking for permission for him to stay. It just so happens my brother (mine) and my sister-in-law (my wife's sister) were visiting also. WIP and I destroyed my brother emotionally and intellectually on the way home, mocking him for pronouncing Suikoden IV "Suikoden Eye Vee". He later threatened to kill WIP. My sister-in-law refused to go inside for about an hour when WIP arrived, fearing he was a "knife-killer". WIP would also later visit me when I lived in New Orleans, in which time the mormon landed in time to seee a gay pride parade in downtown N'awlins.

This made me laugh so hard, because I am happy that WIP acts exactly the same in life as online. Also, that someone else threatens to kill him. That guy collects death threats like some people collect coins. Which is ironic, because it is HE that is the KNIFE KILLER.

Speaking of which, I think more than I have close friends from online, there are people I have "met" on GW (no one here) who I would kill or at least maim if I got the opportunity and could get away with it. Kind of like I, too, probably threatened to kill WIP once, at some point. Who hasn't!? ;D

Anyway, I had some close friends online in this community before, under my other name, but way more enemies. Unrelatedly, when I was about in 9th grade, I sort of ruined my life over an online girlfriend for the next two years, so that made me wary of getting too attached to online people. Especially people from RPG Making community, since they can tend to be fickle, insensitive, and mean and I can tend to be a very wet-eyed, big-hearted sensitive emo boy in real life.

My closest thing to a close, personal friend (talking about real life stuff) from the community was probably RowenFM1; yes, I realized a long time ago that he is a joke of a game designer, but I kept talking to him anyway, even after I left the community. However, his real life became such a mess that it was literally impossible to speak to him any more.

Actually, Clest was a really awesome person too and we were as close as the 1/5th of a language barrier (he had 80% mastered English) would allow. I wonder what that brilliant Brazillian bastard is up to now.

When I came to this site under a new name some people I'd fought with in the past remarked that they liked me and some of those close friends I mentioned from before have been butting heads with me, since neither of them know my old handle. It's just interesting because, well, not the kind of phenomenon you'd have without the internets.

In short: there is nothing inherently wronging with making interweb acquaintances real life friends, it is just an innately difficult proposition. And I think it's really beautiful what those old fags in #rm2gay have together even after all these years. ;D
I have Clest on my MSN list. Weird.
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
9159
Is he ever on? I thought he kind of dissapeared.
I haven't spoken to him or tried speaking to him in...oh...a year or more. I don't know.
Pretty much the only time I ever talk is online- even to my IRL friends, because neither of them go to my school. However, with only one exception, there's no one I've met online that I would by any standard consider a friend.
Said exception I met in the RM community, but he was never a prominent part of it, nor do I believe he's in it at all now. He plans to come and meet me in December, but I don't really believe it'll happen. If it does, well, okay then.
Hmm... Well... I have made a couple of friends around the internet I guess.
I made some friends on a MMO I used to play, who I talked to over the phone a couple times.

I've made a few "friends" around the various RPGMaker community. I used to talk to Malad a lot, although not anymore, since he is rarely active anymore. I've also talked to Psyburn over the phone. My best internet friend is probably YDS. If I left the community, those would probably be the best I remembered, with a few others.

I act fairly similar in real life compared to the internet. I am an illogical, strange person sometimes, and you may be able to tell this from my posts. I do tend to lie about myself on the internet, when answering personal questions, although I don't do that much anymore.

author=YummyDrumsticks link=topic=2128.msg35458#msg35458 date=1222932071
but I'd probably say my best friend in the community is probably Azn! Happy birthday, bro!

Thanks. =)
NoblemanNick
I'm bringing this world back for you and for me.
1390
I get what you all are saying although some I talk with on Aim such as Ash and Feld at times. Though I have become fond of some of you, I consider my friends on here or atleast aquainteces to be people like Kentona, Brandonbaley, Karsuman, WIP, and also other good guys I met such as Chaos, LWG, Quiv, GRS, Shadowtext, Ordin, YDS, and people who aren't online anymore like my friend/rival Nightcloud and of course Ninjascorpio.
Well, considering I have a habit of randomly disappearing from the forums for days on end and I only use IM's and IRC on full-moon nights, I guess it can't be helped that I don't really know any of you!

The only person I make any effort to keep in touch with is Nessiah (and she can tell you what a good job I'm doing of that :-X)
harmonic
It's like toothpicks against a tank
4142
Clest was a chum of mine too. His almost-english is hilarious, I love the guy. (He did my lod fanart!)

I think he's just busy with work and stuff.

I'm not really big on conversing online, except when someone's really compatible with me. I talk to Karsu all the time, and craze, mog, and FD some.
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
9159
Oh, actually, I did meet a very good friend online through RPG Making, although we almost never talked about it, and now we have lost touch.

His user name was Rhysatti; he wasn't very active/prominent in the community, but he was the closest friend I met through RM, although I didn't think of him as an online friend, just a friend which is why I didn't mention him at first.
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