TAKE NOTE OF THIS! (VILLAINS)
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DISCLAIMER - I am no storytelling guru, and I am no god of literature either. I claim no ability to instill in you the ability to create a better villain, I merely provide this in the hopes of inspiring one.
I grow weary of the villian searching for ultimate power to destroy the world - thus I propose you use THIS (da na na naaaa!) to flesh your villains out more. THIS WILL BE FOURTY PERCENT OF YOUR GRADE, KIDS.
Hope it helps:
* Archenemy â€" The principal enemy of the hero. The reason why the particular villain stands out more than the rest varies; they may be the hero's strongest enemy, be the complete antithesis to the hero, have strong connections with their hero's past, pose the greatest threat, have caused the hero a great deal of suffering or loss, or may be the most recurring villain. Examples of Archenemy:
o The Bad One
o Bowser from Mario
o Jamie Berry (True Badman comics) from Gets it out on cam for Lauren
* Dark Lord â€" a villain of near-omnipotence in his realm, who seeks to utterly dominate the world; he is often depicted as a diabolical force, and may, indeed, be more a force than a personality, and often personifies evil itself. The effects of his rule often assert malign effects on the land as well as his subjects. Besides his usual magical abilities, he often controls great armies. Most Dark Lords are male, except in parody. Example of popular Dark Lords:
o Darth Vader
o Sauron
o Lord Voldemort
o Chaos (Warhammer)
o Emperor Palpatine
o Jadis, the White Witch
o The Source of All Evil
o Arawn - Death Lord
o Arthas Menethil, AKA The Lich King
o Myotismon from Digimon
o Badside
o Xehanort
o Ozai
o Bad One
o The Vizier from Prince of Persia Trilogy
o Ganon from the Legend of Zelda
o Anubis from Stargate SG-1
* Evil twin â€" a character which is identical or almost identical to the hero, but is evil instead of good. Examples of Evil Twin:
o Venom
o Wario
o Liquid Snake from the Metal Gear (series)
o Lore
o Shadow the Hedgehog
o Reverse Flash
o Kaine
o Justice Lords
* Femme fatale â€" a beautiful, seductive but ultimately villainous woman who uses the malign power of her sexuality in order to ensnare the hapless hero into danger. Examples of femme fatale:
o Sarah Kerrigan
o Catwoman
o Delilah
o Poison Ivy
o Brides of Dracula
o Xenia Onatopp (GoldenEye)
o The Seer
o Black Widow
o Enchantress
o Queen La-From The Return of Tarzan
* Mad scientist â€" a scientist-villain or villain-scientist, a figure who represents the dangers of science in the wrong hands or abused for harmful purposes. Can easily be confused with Evil Genius. Examples of Mad scientists:
o Julius No
o Davros
o Doctor Octopus
o Professor Hojo
o Professor Ivo
o Lizard
* Supervillain â€" a villain who displays special powers, skills or equipment powerful enough to be a typically serious challenge to a superhero. Like the superhero, the supervillain will often utilize colorful costumes and gimmicks that make them easily recognizable to readers. Example of supervillain:
o Green Goblin
o Sylar
o Mysterio
o Vlad Plasmius
o Ernst Stavro Blofeld from the James Bond books and films
* Tragic villain â€" a character who, although acting for primarily "evil" or selfish goals, is either not in full control of their actions or emotions, therefore the reader or viewer can sympathize for them. These villains can face a crisis of conscience in which they submit to doing evil. These villains often have confused morals believing that they are doing good when in fact they are doing evil. Examples of these include:
o Gollum in The Lord of the Rings
o Mr. Freeze
o Norman Bates in the movie Psycho
o Jericho in the comic book series The New Teen Titans
o Anakin Skywalker in the movie Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith
o Doctor Doom
o Big Boss in the Metal Gear Solid series
o Davy Jones
o Illidan Stormrage
o Murtagh from the Inheritance Cycle
o Mr. Glass from Unbreakable
o Mithos Yggdrasil from Tales of Symphonia
o Dhaos from Tales of Phantasia
* Trickster â€" often more of an annoying nuisance than a fearsome or dangerous enemy, a trickster may take many forms, from a con man to a mischievous imp. Adventures with trickster type villains tend to be light and comedic and the hero typically finds a way to defeat them non-violently. Sometimes there may be a lesson learned from the trickster, even if unintentional. Examples include:
o The Joker (can range from nuisance to deadly from time to time).
o Mister Mxyzptlk
o The Trickster from Supernatural
o Peeves the Poltergeist from Harry Potter
o Loki
o Q from Star Trek the Next Generation.
* Lackey, henchman, minion, or toady â€" a minor villain who takes orders. Examples include:
o Oddjob
o Crabbe and Goyle
o Bill O'reilly
o Rush Limbaugh
o Toad
o Harley Quinn
o Pain and Panic
* Secondary Villain â€" Often not very evil or competent. They are usually not as smart as they think they are and often are not ruthless enough to harm or murder. They are typically motivated by greed or vanity and are often not taken very seriously as a threat. They are not always criminals and sometimes may be guilty of nothing more than trying to win by cheating. They may serve as placeholders until the true villain appears. They may also reform and join the hero as comic relief characters. Examples include:
o Team Rocket in Pokémon
o Harry Mudd and most of the Ferengi villains from Star Trek
o Draco Malfoy in the Harry Potter canon
o Meddling Monk from Doctor Who
o Funky Flashman from DC comics
o Dick Dastardly and Muttley
o Eric Cartman
* Alternately, secondary villains may be the 'right hand man' for a powerful villain. Evil being what it is, loyalty is often in question and the character will likely attempt to take power for themself if the opportunity arises. Examples include:
o Starscream from Transformers
o Redcloak from Order of the Stick
o Count Dooku and Darth Maul from Star Wars
o Dolores Umbridge in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
o Dimentio from Super Paper Mario
* Evil Nature sometimes villains are forces of nature whose instinct is evil. Examples would be:
o Galactus
o Godzilla
o Abomination
o Virus
o Kerchak-From Tarzan of the Apes
Also copy pasted this to wikipedia.
Bold is for badass.
I grow weary of the villian searching for ultimate power to destroy the world - thus I propose you use THIS (da na na naaaa!) to flesh your villains out more. THIS WILL BE FOURTY PERCENT OF YOUR GRADE, KIDS.
Hope it helps:
* Archenemy â€" The principal enemy of the hero. The reason why the particular villain stands out more than the rest varies; they may be the hero's strongest enemy, be the complete antithesis to the hero, have strong connections with their hero's past, pose the greatest threat, have caused the hero a great deal of suffering or loss, or may be the most recurring villain. Examples of Archenemy:
o The Bad One
o Bowser from Mario
o Jamie Berry (True Badman comics) from Gets it out on cam for Lauren
* Dark Lord â€" a villain of near-omnipotence in his realm, who seeks to utterly dominate the world; he is often depicted as a diabolical force, and may, indeed, be more a force than a personality, and often personifies evil itself. The effects of his rule often assert malign effects on the land as well as his subjects. Besides his usual magical abilities, he often controls great armies. Most Dark Lords are male, except in parody. Example of popular Dark Lords:
o Darth Vader
o Sauron
o Lord Voldemort
o Chaos (Warhammer)
o Emperor Palpatine
o Jadis, the White Witch
o The Source of All Evil
o Arawn - Death Lord
o Arthas Menethil, AKA The Lich King
o Myotismon from Digimon
o Badside
o Xehanort
o Ozai
o Bad One
o The Vizier from Prince of Persia Trilogy
o Ganon from the Legend of Zelda
o Anubis from Stargate SG-1
* Evil twin â€" a character which is identical or almost identical to the hero, but is evil instead of good. Examples of Evil Twin:
o Venom
o Wario
o Liquid Snake from the Metal Gear (series)
o Lore
o Shadow the Hedgehog
o Reverse Flash
o Kaine
o Justice Lords
* Femme fatale â€" a beautiful, seductive but ultimately villainous woman who uses the malign power of her sexuality in order to ensnare the hapless hero into danger. Examples of femme fatale:
o Sarah Kerrigan
o Catwoman
o Delilah
o Poison Ivy
o Brides of Dracula
o Xenia Onatopp (GoldenEye)
o The Seer
o Black Widow
o Enchantress
o Queen La-From The Return of Tarzan
* Mad scientist â€" a scientist-villain or villain-scientist, a figure who represents the dangers of science in the wrong hands or abused for harmful purposes. Can easily be confused with Evil Genius. Examples of Mad scientists:
o Julius No
o Davros
o Doctor Octopus
o Professor Hojo
o Professor Ivo
o Lizard
* Supervillain â€" a villain who displays special powers, skills or equipment powerful enough to be a typically serious challenge to a superhero. Like the superhero, the supervillain will often utilize colorful costumes and gimmicks that make them easily recognizable to readers. Example of supervillain:
o Green Goblin
o Sylar
o Mysterio
o Vlad Plasmius
o Ernst Stavro Blofeld from the James Bond books and films
* Tragic villain â€" a character who, although acting for primarily "evil" or selfish goals, is either not in full control of their actions or emotions, therefore the reader or viewer can sympathize for them. These villains can face a crisis of conscience in which they submit to doing evil. These villains often have confused morals believing that they are doing good when in fact they are doing evil. Examples of these include:
o Gollum in The Lord of the Rings
o Mr. Freeze
o Norman Bates in the movie Psycho
o Jericho in the comic book series The New Teen Titans
o Anakin Skywalker in the movie Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith
o Doctor Doom
o Big Boss in the Metal Gear Solid series
o Davy Jones
o Illidan Stormrage
o Murtagh from the Inheritance Cycle
o Mr. Glass from Unbreakable
o Mithos Yggdrasil from Tales of Symphonia
o Dhaos from Tales of Phantasia
* Trickster â€" often more of an annoying nuisance than a fearsome or dangerous enemy, a trickster may take many forms, from a con man to a mischievous imp. Adventures with trickster type villains tend to be light and comedic and the hero typically finds a way to defeat them non-violently. Sometimes there may be a lesson learned from the trickster, even if unintentional. Examples include:
o The Joker (can range from nuisance to deadly from time to time).
o Mister Mxyzptlk
o The Trickster from Supernatural
o Peeves the Poltergeist from Harry Potter
o Loki
o Q from Star Trek the Next Generation.
* Lackey, henchman, minion, or toady â€" a minor villain who takes orders. Examples include:
o Oddjob
o Crabbe and Goyle
o Bill O'reilly
o Rush Limbaugh
o Toad
o Harley Quinn
o Pain and Panic
* Secondary Villain â€" Often not very evil or competent. They are usually not as smart as they think they are and often are not ruthless enough to harm or murder. They are typically motivated by greed or vanity and are often not taken very seriously as a threat. They are not always criminals and sometimes may be guilty of nothing more than trying to win by cheating. They may serve as placeholders until the true villain appears. They may also reform and join the hero as comic relief characters. Examples include:
o Team Rocket in Pokémon
o Harry Mudd and most of the Ferengi villains from Star Trek
o Draco Malfoy in the Harry Potter canon
o Meddling Monk from Doctor Who
o Funky Flashman from DC comics
o Dick Dastardly and Muttley
o Eric Cartman
* Alternately, secondary villains may be the 'right hand man' for a powerful villain. Evil being what it is, loyalty is often in question and the character will likely attempt to take power for themself if the opportunity arises. Examples include:
o Starscream from Transformers
o Redcloak from Order of the Stick
o Count Dooku and Darth Maul from Star Wars
o Dolores Umbridge in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
o Dimentio from Super Paper Mario
* Evil Nature sometimes villains are forces of nature whose instinct is evil. Examples would be:
o Galactus
o Godzilla
o Abomination
o Virus
o Kerchak-From Tarzan of the Apes
Also copy pasted this to wikipedia.
Bold is for badass.
You mention the "Evil Genius" variation, but there's no section for it...
Also, I'm surprised how my villains fit into these categories. I have some decent variety lined up here! :P
Also, I'm surprised how my villains fit into these categories. I have some decent variety lined up here! :P
All my villians in games are usually dark lords.
Also, i'm surprised you haven't made Ganon bold. I find him to be more badass then Darth Vader.
Also, i'm surprised you haven't made Ganon bold. I find him to be more badass then Darth Vader.
author=demondestiny link=topic=2282.msg41390#msg41390 date=1225622054
Also, i'm surprised you haven't made Ganon bold. I find him to be more badass then Darth Vader.
blasphemy
Dude, ODDJOB beats Vader. ;)
But only because Oddjob is the single greatest fictional sub-villain in history.
Also, the Joker should be bold AND underlined.
Explain this?
author=halibabica link=topic=2282.msg39348#msg39348 date=1224727731
You mention the "Evil Genius" variation, but there's no section for it...
Explain this?
How come trash like Hojo is there and dr.Willy is not on mad scientist?:P
Also I assume Evil genius was splitted between mad scientist and some other category...
My villains are mostly normal ppl being greedy, jealous or mad and messing with armies and politics to get their way...
Also I assume Evil genius was splitted between mad scientist and some other category...
My villains are mostly normal ppl being greedy, jealous or mad and messing with armies and politics to get their way...
How come trash like Hojo is there and dr.Willy is not on mad scientist?
Because Hojo is a much more interesting and compelling character than Dr. Willy who in fact is not a character at all, Clest. He is one of the few characters in FF7 that has held up over time upon replaying it years and years later. Dr. Willy on the other hand has NO ARC, he is a totally static character and a stereotype at that. :P
Anyway, I think I personally have created (under a different name) the finest mad scientist in all of amateur rpg making if not all of fiction, and I know at least a few people IRL who agree.
* Trickster â€" often more of an annoying nuisance than a fearsome or dangerous enemy, a trickster may take many forms, from a con man to a mischievous imp. Adventures with trickster type villains tend to be light and comedic and the hero typically finds a way to defeat them non-violently. Sometimes there may be a lesson learned from the trickster, even if unintentional. Examples include:
o The Joker (can range from nuisance to deadly from time to time).
o Mister Mxyzptlk
o The Trickster from Supernatural
o Peeves the Poltergeist from Harry Potter
o Loki
o Q from Star Trek the Next Generation.
By far my favorite type of villain, and I think the most dangerous. I disagree totally with your explanation of the trickster as less dangerous. Loki is my favorite archetype, especially the way Neil Gaiman uses him in The Sandman and American Gods.
I really, really like villains, although of course sometimes I don't believe in villains, since ultimately everything is relative and the villain is just who winds up fighting "the hero".
* Tragic villain â€" a character who, although acting for primarily "evil" or selfish goals, is either not in full control of their actions or emotions, therefore the reader or viewer can sympathize for them. These villains can face a crisis of conscience in which they submit to doing evil. These villains often have confused morals believing that they are doing good when in fact they are doing evil. Examples of these include:
o Gollum in The Lord of the Rings
o Mr. Freeze
o Norman Bates in the movie Psycho
o Jericho in the comic book series The New Teen Titans
o Anakin Skywalker in the movie Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith
o Doctor Doom
o Big Boss in the Metal Gear Solid series
o Davy Jones
o Illidan Stormrage
o Murtagh from the Inheritance Cycle
o Mr. Glass from Unbreakable
o Mithos Yggdrasil from Tales of Symphonia
o Dhaos from Tales of Phantasia
Most of my villains are likeable or sympathetic in some way or another, (as is the trend for most of the batman villains in the tim burton batman movies). Most of the human(oid) villains I have created are motivated to do horrible things, in some way, by love. Love of Mother, romantic love, love of humanity, love of country, love of (a) God, love of power. Okay, the last is arguably not love at all but greed/powerthirstiness, but still. Those that don't have twisted, pathetic motivations are instead really, really, super charismatic, smug, and competent. I always intend to let the villains be the fonz, by far, hands down, the coolest looking, most badass character, a la the sephiroth effect. They constantly outsmart the hero and are clever, funny, and completely ruthless, until they finally and inevitably die...or don't.
The above applies to my serious, non-horror games. In my horror games the "Villains" are inscrutable, unstoppable Outer (supernatural) and Inner (psychological) forces and the human beings they puppet to manipulate their will (former) and/or the delusions and phantasms they use to communicate (latter).
All of the above only applies to my serious games of course. In Mage Duel the villains are motivated by the fact that they are all complete assholes and the heroes are moltivated by LIGHTNING BOLT and that's all Mage Duel really needs. Likewise, Vermicide doesn't have a villain yet, except the elements. The villains in Ruptured Souls, not yet fully revealed, fall into the first category ((sym)pathetic) or are inscrutable and terrifyingly alien Outer forces, though I assure you the game is not supernatural in the slightest.
Well, I do suppose that you covered a large amount of the basic types of villains. You didn't elaborate on evil genius though.
Seriously, how can you call someone badass when you can beat him by waving a fishing pole in front of his face.
author=AznChipmunk link=topic=2282.msg41444#msg41444 date=1225666491author=demondestiny link=topic=2282.msg41390#msg41390 date=1225622054
Also, i'm surprised you haven't made Ganon bold. I find him to be more badass then Darth Vader.
blasphemy
Seriously, how can you call someone badass when you can beat him by waving a fishing pole in front of his face.
Wow, this is a pretty sweet topic!
I'll make sure that when I make a game it is nice and at least moderately diverse.
I'll make sure that when I make a game it is nice and at least moderately diverse.
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