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CloseIf they have those limits or whatever, they're not mentioning them. They're just spouting off a random limit, based on nothing but file size.
Archeia_Nessiah
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author=Karsuman link=topic=2651.msg49707#msg49707 date=1228704209author=Archeia_Nessiah link=topic=2651.msg49701#msg49701 date=1228702042
I can download upto 90 mb, but if it's 100 or so, if the game is 100% original graphics and stuff I'll get it. I won't download it if it's rip.
I like how this is just high enough to account for Sacred Earth.
Seriously folks, arbitrary limits are retarded. Whatever happened to QUALITY and COMPLETION?
I have no idea what you are talking about for Sacred earth but it only has 40 megs or so plus professional art and custom sprites and a fun gameplay system when I tried out the old demo so how would I complain?
If you think about the rip part, what I'm saying is 500 mb game with ripped graphics with minor changes or something, facemaker or whatever like the whole KH soundtrack.
Also, not everyone has unlimited internet and has enough hard disk to even keep Warcraft 3 in, that's the sole reason why I don't download 90% of games not because I don't want to, I just can't. Try living in a family with 6 people using the internet at the same time with 20 gb limit per month (lol Australia) and let's see how you will survive an internet speed that is much slower than dial up. If I were to download 100++++++++ mb of games I rather go to doujin style and hit myself with free doujin games that are way better looking and much more fun like this one
I mean come on, it's rpgmaker. I rather kill myself with Touhou or Ikaruga which ironically are smaller and complete. I remember XP games that reach 300 mb for a DEMO and the last time I became kind enough to play one I was hit with major disappointment and it's not worth the sacrifice (I'm also looking at you FF0 rm2k3)
Oh wait don't forget Cave Story and La Mulana! It's complete, fun, AND SMALL
Emirpoen
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author=Karsuman link=topic=2651.msg49710#msg49710 date=1228705215
Even if that is the case, it still strikes me as hypocritical. There's not much of a difference between 50 megs and 60, or 90 megs and 100.
And this is coming from a guy whose game will probably be around 20 megs at most.
I willing to bet you've never had a download cutoff in your life or bandwidth speed limited based on how much you've used in a month. ;D
personally, size doesn't bother me too much, since my internet is pretty stable.
Nessiah: Sacred Earth is 88 megs as a download. And the only custom art in it that I know of is the face art and the character sets, but whatever. It still has plenty of rips. I will assume that you gave the number 90 without much thought. I wasn't arguing the difference between a 90 meg game and a 500 meg game - I was arguing the difference between 90 and 100, and the fact people (not just you) were giving arbitrary cutoff limits. Of course no one should download a 500MB file filled with the KHII soundtrack. Obviously you should spare the space for better downloads.
Having said that, I am not arguing against Sacred Earth's artistic coherence and qualities, which are fairly good, even if I never found the game itself enjoyable.
As for your final rant about a lot of rpgmaker games sucking and not being finished...well, sure. Most games suck. I don't suggest downloading them. Stuff like "It's rpgmaker" just sounds like pure condescension though.
Also, Prime: I've had modern internet (not like, the old BBS stuff) pretty much since its inception. I know exactly what horrid download limits/speeds are like, and when a 100MB was not downloadable at all. Do not rush to judge too quickly. =)
Having said that, I am not arguing against Sacred Earth's artistic coherence and qualities, which are fairly good, even if I never found the game itself enjoyable.
As for your final rant about a lot of rpgmaker games sucking and not being finished...well, sure. Most games suck. I don't suggest downloading them. Stuff like "It's rpgmaker" just sounds like pure condescension though.
Also, Prime: I've had modern internet (not like, the old BBS stuff) pretty much since its inception. I know exactly what horrid download limits/speeds are like, and when a 100MB was not downloadable at all. Do not rush to judge too quickly. =)
author=Archeia_Nessiah link=topic=2651.msg49780#msg49780 date=1228745429I have no idea what you are talking about. Also, that game was in japanese. Didn't know you could read japanese!
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author=NEO Prime link=topic=2651.msg49781#msg49781 date=1228745626As Karsuman is the same age as me, I can guarantee he has lived through the hells of dialup. I used to be on 28.8 kbps.
I willing to bet you've never had a download cutoff in your life or bandwidth speed limited based on how much you've used in a month. ;D
It's not download sizes that turn me off, it's download speeds. If it clunks along at like .5 kb/s...I stop it.
Things like Rapidshare turn me off, too.
Things like Rapidshare turn me off, too.
Fileplanet is the absolute worst. I'll just toss out an arbitrary limitation on downloads on Fileplanet. Rapidshare and stuff like that turn me away too.
Archeia_Nessiah
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author=Karsuman link=topic=2651.msg49800#msg49800 date=1228755937
Nessiah: Sacred Earth is 88 megs as a download. And the only custom art in it that I know of is the face art and the character sets, but whatever. It still has plenty of rips. I will assume that you gave the number 90 without much thought. I wasn't arguing the difference between a 90 meg game and a 500 meg game - I was arguing the difference between 90 and 100, and the fact people (not just you) were giving arbitrary cutoff limits. Of course no one should download a 500MB file filled with the KHII soundtrack. Obviously you should spare the space for better downloads.
Aedemphia and FF0 is about 100+ mb and they're still demos. I thought about giving it a try and having a lot of problems just to download them and I have to ask a friend to slice them up for me and guess what, it's not worth it.
As for your final rant about a lot of rpgmaker games sucking and not being finished...well, sure. Most games suck. I don't suggest downloading them. Stuff like "It's rpgmaker" just sounds like pure condescension though.
Why would an rpgmaker game spam about 100000000000000 mb when complete games can be 25-45 mb or so (Demon Legacy was able to do this) I would understand the filesize if it's has a CBS and CMS since those require large amt. of pictures.
Then again I do give off a few exceptions on others if it has great feedback or if a friend tells me it's good so *shrug*
author=WIP link=topic=2651.msg49806#msg49806 date=1228758838
I have no idea what you are talking about. Also, that game was in japanese. Didn't know you could read japanese!
What we call Fan Translation B)
And the other hand I play and finish Jap games and they made sense to me so :P
But what I'm saying is, if I want to download 100+ mb games, I rather play doujin games because :
#1 Translated
#2 Original GFX and Soundtrack
#3 Fun and Challenging
#4 Full Game
At least they have assurance of being fun.
Since once a game hits 100mb for some odd reason that download will always get cut off so I rather have some assurance.
Neok
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Well I'd hardly say they're all fun and worthwhile. I'd only really recommend a handful, though they do definitely have a leg up on rm games for obvious reasons. Personally, I don't like how aimless a lot of them feel.
Would you download my game if it was over 100mb? ;D
(Because this is very quickly becoming reality.. :'()
Would you download my game if it was over 100mb? ;D
(Because this is very quickly becoming reality.. :'()
author=Knee Oak link=topic=2651.msg49906#msg49906 date=1228795029That depends. Is it Alter AILA Genesis?
Would you download my game if it was over 100mb?
Archeia_Nessiah
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author=Knee Oak link=topic=2651.msg49906#msg49906 date=1228795029
Well I'd hardly say they're all fun and worthwhile. I'd only really recommend a handful, though they do definitely have a leg up on rm games for obvious reasons. Personally, I don't like how aimless a lot of them feel.
Would you download my game if it was over 100mb? ;D
(Because this is very quickly becoming reality.. :'()
I'd download it of course :P
I am dying to know what happened after the prequel.
But please do your best to have them at least 90mb ;-;
author=Archeia_Nessiah link=topic=2651.msg49857#msg49857 date=1228781106I agree so hard it hurts. People bloat their games an amazing amount.
Why would an rpgmaker game spam about 100000000000000 mb when complete games can be 25-45 mb or so (Demon Legacy was able to do this) I would understand the filesize if it's has a CBS and CMS since those require large amt. of pictures.
author=WIP link=topic=2651.msg49916#msg49916 date=1228799054Thank you, I can't believe how big these XP and VX games are nowadays. That's why I probably wont download an XP game unless it's around my 50-70 limit. I only have about 5-6gig left(World of Warcraft for my brother takes up a lot of space) on my PC and have a bandwidth limit for my internet.
I agree so hard it hurts. People bloat their games an amazing amount.
demondestiny
889
If i make a game it usually never goes beyond 50 mb no matter how much i add into it.
If someone wants to use mp3s, I'd say at least have a midi soundtrack as well for those who can't download big files. It doesn't have to be the same songs as the mp3 version, as long as it has a similar mood to it. I don't really imagine anyone saying "Oh, I hate this game because the midi and the mp3 songs were different". Even if someone brings it up, you could easily explain why that was. That's my thought on it, anyway.
