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[RM2K3] WHERE CAN I BUY A NON-STEAM VERSION OF RPGMAKER 2003?
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Doctor_Lugae
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CloseBecause of the amount of time I have invested in my game, and my background in law I have a bit of an issue with the concept that Steam is essentially 'renting' me the use of RPGMaker 2003.
I would prefer to have a physical copy of my own that I can use independently of Steam, should a day come I decide to stop using their services. Does anyone know if such a site exists? I had heard Kadokawa was offering it for sale, but I cannot seem to find the website as of today.
Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the fact that it is on Steam; but I am also very much a firm believer in having one's possessions firmly in their hands. This is partially due to Steam ending service on Windows 8.1 and stating that I must upgrade from Windows 8.1 or lose all access to my titles in 180 or so days. That I don't appreciate in the slightest, since I do not currently possess the means to upgrade due to the high cost of living in my area and so it very much feels like Steam is taking my investments hostage.
I would prefer to have a physical copy of my own that I can use independently of Steam, should a day come I decide to stop using their services. Does anyone know if such a site exists? I had heard Kadokawa was offering it for sale, but I cannot seem to find the website as of today.
Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the fact that it is on Steam; but I am also very much a firm believer in having one's possessions firmly in their hands. This is partially due to Steam ending service on Windows 8.1 and stating that I must upgrade from Windows 8.1 or lose all access to my titles in 180 or so days. That I don't appreciate in the slightest, since I do not currently possess the means to upgrade due to the high cost of living in my area and so it very much feels like Steam is taking my investments hostage.
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Just gonna quickly respond to this in case someone else hasn't stepped in already. the rpgweb version might be able to run without steam? But I also think it checks for something.
I currently use rpgmaker2003 steam on Win XP, and Win7. rpgmaker2003 on Win XP seems to run rpgmaker2003 fine even though steam is no longer supported on that system - I just checked.
Hopefully Cherry or someone more familiar with this issue will be able to chime in, I'm curious about this issue as well.
Thank you for posting about this issue Doctor_Lugae ♥ . :)
I currently use rpgmaker2003 steam on Win XP, and Win7. rpgmaker2003 on Win XP seems to run rpgmaker2003 fine even though steam is no longer supported on that system - I just checked.
Hopefully Cherry or someone more familiar with this issue will be able to chime in, I'm curious about this issue as well.
Thank you for posting about this issue Doctor_Lugae ♥ . :)
As usual two of my favorite posters have the answers for me.
So I need to buy the one from Komodo Plaza then, which I'll do ASAP.
One other question though probably only Cherry can answer it. I used a couple of their (Cherry's) patches on the game. Can those patches also be applied to the rpgmakerweb version? IE: Can I just port my Project Folder into the RPGMaker and it should run the same?
Anyways thank you to both of you again.
So I need to buy the one from Komodo Plaza then, which I'll do ASAP.
One other question though probably only Cherry can answer it. I used a couple of their (Cherry's) patches on the game. Can those patches also be applied to the rpgmakerweb version? IE: Can I just port my Project Folder into the RPGMaker and it should run the same?
Anyways thank you to both of you again.
The Steam ownership is useful, because it transfers from computer to computer. I'm not sure how accurate that "all of your titles will become unusable" is. I have Windows XP right now, and I can play all of the games that I downloaded through Steam on it. But I assume that this is only certain games that don't have code that specifically integrates into Steam. That's probably what Steam is warning you about.
I can go into my "common" folder in the Steam folder and find my games, and open and play them with Steam not even running (because, it can't any longer). Even on Windows 10, which I also have, certain games aren't hard-integrated into Steam. I'm talking about RPG Maker 2003, Environmental Station Alpha, Princess Remedy 2... even a copy of RPG Maker 2000 that I refunded because it lacks features that I had wanted continues to remain usable (which is kind of unsettling, so I tend to use 2003 or XP or VX Ace instead).
The big warning would be if Steam integrated some kind of deletion into its deprecated operating systems. Would it just outright delete your games? (Then again, it's Steam, so if you got a different computer, you could just download them again, if you kept the save files.)
On the other hand, if you buy outside of Steam, you only get the license to a single computer installation at a time, and when the hard drive goes (as it has with mine, multiple times), you have to reestablish your license with rpgmakerweb. That hasn't been a really big deal, though.
What I'm trying to say with all of these paragraphs, is that certain games, like Overwatch and Fortnite, integrate with Steam, and certain others don't.
I can go into my "common" folder in the Steam folder and find my games, and open and play them with Steam not even running (because, it can't any longer). Even on Windows 10, which I also have, certain games aren't hard-integrated into Steam. I'm talking about RPG Maker 2003, Environmental Station Alpha, Princess Remedy 2... even a copy of RPG Maker 2000 that I refunded because it lacks features that I had wanted continues to remain usable (which is kind of unsettling, so I tend to use 2003 or XP or VX Ace instead).
The big warning would be if Steam integrated some kind of deletion into its deprecated operating systems. Would it just outright delete your games? (Then again, it's Steam, so if you got a different computer, you could just download them again, if you kept the save files.)
On the other hand, if you buy outside of Steam, you only get the license to a single computer installation at a time, and when the hard drive goes (as it has with mine, multiple times), you have to reestablish your license with rpgmakerweb. That hasn't been a really big deal, though.
What I'm trying to say with all of these paragraphs, is that certain games, like Overwatch and Fortnite, integrate with Steam, and certain others don't.
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The Steam ownership is useful, because it transfers from computer to computer. I'm not sure how accurate that "all of your titles will become unusable" is. I have Windows XP right now, and I can play all of the games that I downloaded through Steam on it. But I assume that this is only certain games that don't have code that specifically integrates into Steam. That's probably what Steam is warning you about.
That is literally however what they are inferring on their warning page.
Windows 7 and Windows 8 Support
As of January 1 2024, Steam will officially stop supporting the Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 operating systems. After that date, the Steam Client will no longer run on those versions of Windows. In order to continue running Steam and any games or other products purchased through Steam, users will need to update to a more recent version of Windows.
While you might be right about some games running on despite a depreciated Steam Client, essentially Steam is taking hostage people's libraries which frankly speaking I am not alright with or eager to support. Far better served to buy a copy that I can physically install.
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