FF13 25 MIN GAMEPLAY TRAILER

author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=3540.msg71136#msg71136 date=1240019800

(characters playing almost the same, materia system,

Both of those concepts have prototypes in FF6's gameplay.

This is truth. I'm not going to explain it, look it up.

Or maybe, Feldschlact, you can explain it to the ladies and gentlemen.

One stark difference between FF7 and FF6, is that magic becomes the overpowered part in FF7. FF6 it is everything else that makes your characters unstoppable.

Also in the GBA version of FF6.

author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=3540.msg71183#msg71183 date=1240036300
Espers in FFVI. Any character can learn any spell, at any time (once you have the appropriate Esper). Sounds a lot like the materia system, no?

I would say that it's more closer to FF8 than the materia system (and even that's a stretch). In FF6 you're linking summons to characters to gain spells and level up with extra attributes. In ff7 you're putting individual spells into weapon slots. But not just spells, you can put in support materia (blue) which have strange effects like counter attack or HP up, or All. There's also yellow materia which allow for more physical skills like steal, sense. There's also the red materia in which summons are basically their own materia and do not give you stat bonuses or spells. But are just really powerful attacks with limited use. On top of this, magic and summon materia make you physically weaker. And all through the game you're basically running around collecting these.

As for the character differences, I guess I could give you that. But then again, Sabin is the only person who can pull off street fighter moves, and Egar is the only one who can chainsaw a monster in half, Shadow who can just throw shit and send his dog after people, Cyan with that weird sword timing thing. And it goes on. As a kid without being too over-analyzing about the systems, you could see character variation, and you could see that ff6 was way different from ff7.

Even if I'm wrong in both of these, there's still a difference in pacing, setting, presentation, and graphics etc. So my point stands either way.

author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=3540.msg71217#msg71217 date=1240073904
Eh. Besides for Fixed Dice+Offering, what else is more powerful than Gem Box+Economizer+Quick+Ultima in Final Fantasy VI?

Cyan

Plus by the time you get that combo the game is trivial anyways

Any character who gets infinite attacks until everything is dead is #1 in my book

Look up the Psycho Cyan Glitch

You asked for something that does more damage, I just gave the best non-instant death attack as a response ;) (plus you didn't mention that the 5-Ultima is more effective since setting up the glitch takes a few turns and by that time 5-Ultima would kill everything)
I take it you don't hack Joker Doom eithers (not even counting Reverse-Joker Doom)

It's been ages since I've had a late-game party, but wouldn't Quick+Offering+GenjiGlove with raw max damage do more? That's 16 hits at 4999 (I think you can boost this with the Hero Ring by another grand, but I'm not sure) for 80k. 5-Ultimas can only do more if there's more than one enemy.

Hahaha nice

Also 5-Ultimas is capped at 50k damage to any enemy (10k damage to one * 5, one use when setting up quick, two on each quick-turn) while 16-5k's is 80k (5k * 16) unless I missed something.

Plus if you can't improve the 5k damage via a Hero Ring equip a Gem Box and throw in an Ultima when casting Quick. Sure you can only do this combo five times without healing assuming you have max MP but now you're doing 90k damage instead of 80k
*edit*
I'm an idiot who forgot what relics do what (which extends to my 'Offering+GenjiGlove+HeroRing' argument, I really should play FF3 again)

Yus. The battle music, as well as the rest of the music in the FFXIII trailer has been ripped. here be thy link.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/6i3vzx

Got it off of Game Faqs.

Isn't Agito just that shitty looking PSP card game?

@Feld - Same concept, managed differently is all.